hasselblad Sat, 4 Nov 2000 Volume 1 : Number 1038 In this issue: FT/FS Friday Leica/Hasselblad Agfa SCALA - 'best' ASA to shoot... Re: Agfa SCALA - 'best' ASA to shoot... Re: Hasselblad self timer belows on 500 series RE: fashion shoot Re: belows on 500 series PCP80 Projector rack Re: fashion shoot Re: thanks! [was acute matte on 50 ann.] Re: Hasselblad self timer Re: belows on 500 series Re: belows on 500 series ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 07:24:07 -0500 From: Vick Ko To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Cc: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: FT/FS Friday Leica/Hasselblad Message-ID: <3A02AE66.71031678@sympatico.ca> To the LUG group, I just placed an order for a Noctilux, due next week - and I'm tingly with excitement! But - a major crater in my bank book has developed. I have a black Hasselblad 500C body with black A12 that I would like to liquidate so that I can recover, or, in my state of delirium, buy other Leica items. I'm willing to trade the body/magazine + cash for Leica items, or sell the camera outright. I'm looking for: Leica M4 body Leica M5 body Leica R-lens other interesting M or LTM items - let's talk Thanks Vick, in Ottawa Canada The Hasselblad description follows: 500CM Black, serial RC129.... - $750 CAD or $500 USD Comes with black waist level finder. Black enamel body, fold-out wind lever, minor scuffs on outside handle of wind lever light marks on carry-handle buttons, paint wear on only one corner of body, adjacent to lens release button, light wear on internal body face where magazine mates. Paint on waist level finder is immaculate. A12 Magazine RU330.... $450 CAD or $300 USD Black enamel. Inserts match - comes with dark slide. Paint wear on top left edge between release button and corner (1/8 metal strip is bare for 1"), paint wear on bottom edge of magazine adjacent to where camera body attaches. Paint wear (small spots) next to wind lever. Internal face that mates to camera shows no wear (better than external paint condition!) Have used magazine, film spacing is fine; no light leaks. The body is cosmetically better than the magazine, and the camera works great. I don't have boxes or body cap. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 07:26:01 -0500 From: Mike Callahan To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Agfa SCALA - 'best' ASA to shoot... Message-ID: <3A02AED9.35001DC9@america.net> I mentioned earlier having just gotten my first rolls of Agfa SCALA B&W transparency film. Being rated at 200, but capable of shooting at 100 to 1600, I am wondering who has experience with it and what asa you shot it at? I was thinking 100 just to stay close with metering to my other films. Any 'real' disadvantage to shooting it at 100 versus the optimum 'rated' 200? Thanks in advance... mike http://www.mcallahan.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:42:09 -0000 From: "Simon Lamb" To: , Subject: Re: Agfa SCALA - 'best' ASA to shoot... Message-ID: <007401c0459b$dddadf10$650a0a0a@phoenixdb.co.uk> Mike I use Scala extensively with my Leica M6 and have used it at every speed from 100 to 1600. The quality is superb at all speeds, although as I am sure you will know, at the 1600 speed you get very contrasty images. All the B&W images at http://www.sclamb.com/leica/leicahome.htm were taken on Scala at various speeds. The image at http://www.sclamb.com/FamilyofMan/Someone_to_Watch_Over_Me.JPG was taken at 1600 and gave me the shadows and highlights that I wanted to achieve. I do not think 100 provides much benefit over 200 and never really use the 100 speed. Simon Mike Callahan wrote: > I mentioned earlier having just gotten my first rolls of Agfa SCALA > B&W transparency film. Being rated at 200, but capable of shooting > at 100 to 1600, I am wondering who has experience with it and what > asa you shot it at? I was thinking 100 just to stay close with metering > to my other films. Any 'real' disadvantage to shooting it at 100 versus > the optimum 'rated' 200? > > Thanks in advance... > > mike > http://www.mcallahan.net > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 09:02:22 EST From: Stymulus@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Hasselblad self timer Message-ID: hello fellow image obsessors- Does anyone have experience with bellows on a 500 series? I have a 80mm and a 120 planar and was wondering if anyone had experiece with which lenses worked best with the bellows. I was thinking of renting a 40mm to check what it does. I am trying to recreate Blossfeldt images for a class project, any film and enlarging paper suggestions??? I was going to start with Ilford Delta 3200 but don't have time or money to test every film. I will also be renting a polaroid back and metered prism for exposure. Any suggestions would be appreciated! thanks guys, Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:28:52 -0200 From: "Eduardo Aigner" To: Subject: belows on 500 series Message-ID: <005f01c045a2$9c14c800$2f0db0c8@ig> I use that combination almost every week thought I have never tried the 120. The 80 and 150 are just great. You do not need to use 3200 film, try PXP or TXT. The exposure (with two photofloods 250w) range from 1s to 1/4s f11/16 on a PlusX rated at iso 32. There is an compensating exposure scale on the bellows, that is a starting point only. good luck EDUARDO AIGNER > hello fellow image obsessors- > > Does anyone have experience with bellows on a 500 series? I have a 80mm > and a 120 planar and was wondering if anyone had experiece with which lenses > worked best with the bellows. I was thinking of renting a 40mm to check what > it does. I am trying to recreate Blossfeldt images for a class project, any > film and enlarging paper suggestions??? I was going to start with Ilford > Delta 3200 but don't have time or money to test every film. I will also be > renting a polaroid back and metered prism for exposure. Any suggestions > would be appreciated! > > > thanks guys, > > Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:06:29 -0500 From: "Cousineau , Bernard" To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: RE: fashion shoot Message-ID: <4FAFDCF60A23D21197A500A0C9CFE33604EE647F@EMAIL> > I'd like to get the groups opinion on the selection of camera > for a PPA > sponsored fashion shoot. > I've not used the Hasselblad much and want to become more comfortable > with it but also don't want to miss out on valuable images. Well, The obvious answer is that you have to use the Hasselblad in order to become comfortable with it. Most of the fashion photographers that I know keep both 35mm and medium format systems handy. The choice between the two comes down to the look that you are trying to achieve. If you are going for a grainy and soft mood (sort of like what Sarah Moon was doing in the 1970's), you should go with 35. If you want sharp and grainless (in the spirit of Leibovitz or Avedon), then medium or large format will get you there. What you don't want to be doing is shooting against the natural strength of your medium. Once you feel comfortable with both systems, though, all bets are off. Bernard ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 09:37:35 -0600 From: Lynda B To: Subject: Re: belows on 500 series Message-ID: Which bellows are you using? The manual or automatic? I'm considering buying a used bellows. There is a huge price difference between the two. Can you get good results with the manual one? -Lynda on 11/3/00 8:28 AM, Eduardo Aigner at aigner.ez@terra.com.br wrote: > I use that combination almost every week thought I have never tried the > 120. The 80 and 150 are just great. You do not need to use 3200 film, try > PXP or TXT. The exposure (with two photofloods 250w) range from 1s to 1/4s > f11/16 on a PlusX rated at iso 32. There is an compensating exposure scale > on the bellows, that is a starting point only. > > good luck > > EDUARDO AIGNER > >> hello fellow image obsessors- >> >> Does anyone have experience with bellows on a 500 series? I have a > 80mm >> and a 120 planar and was wondering if anyone had experiece with which > lenses >> worked best with the bellows. I was thinking of renting a 40mm to check > what >> it does. I am trying to recreate Blossfeldt images for a class project, > any >> film and enlarging paper suggestions??? I was going to start with Ilford >> Delta 3200 but don't have time or money to test every film. I will also > be >> renting a polaroid back and metered prism for exposure. Any suggestions >> would be appreciated! >> >> >> thanks guys, >> >> Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:14:16 EST From: Texford1@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: PCP80 Projector rack Message-ID: <8e.c9cab9e.27343e58@aol.com> I am looking for a "USED"PCP80 slide projector rack ( Stacker ) or similar "" to use with two Hasselblad slide projectors, appreciate any information on deales or individuals who might have one for sale Thanks Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 13:07:34 -0500 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: fashion shoot Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20001103130703.00bf0660@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:56 AM 11/03/2000, you wrote: > You need a macro lens also and a long lens. for a fashion shoot? Depends on the fashion, but not for runway stuff. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:36:31 +0100 From: "Q.G. de Bakker" To: Subject: Re: thanks! [was acute matte on 50 ann.] Message-ID: <002601c045c5$6bb260a0$b6dcf1c3@qnu99> Eric Maquiling wrote: > Thanks to the responses. I'll have to take mine out. It is a post-89 > model (91 hence the 50 anniverary issue). Will my screen say Acute Matte > on it? If it doesn't say so, will just say Hasselblad? I never really > paid attention to it now because I have a new 50mm CF that I'm trying to > use on it and at f/4, its a little dark. There will be nothing on the screen to identify its type: no type designation or even the Hasselblad name. (The latest Acute Matte D types can be distinguished by a double "D" cut out in the edge of the frame.) The old-style focussing screens however have a very distinct pattern of Fresnell-rings. They are far less obvious on the Acute Matte (though not entirely invisible). To positively identify your screen as a Acute Matte, you will have to compare it to a known Acute Matte, so perhaps you can visit your local Hasselblad dealer and ask. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:44:45 +0100 From: "Q.G. de Bakker" To: Subject: Re: Hasselblad self timer Message-ID: <002901c045c6$244f6cc0$b6dcf1c3@qnu99> Stymulus@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone have experience with bellows on a 500 series? I have a 80mm > and a 120 planar and was wondering if anyone had experiece with which lenses > worked best with the bellows. The 120 mm Makro-Planar is a perfectly good choice. > I was thinking of renting a 40mm to check what > it does. It will give dramatic perspective, but very limited working distances (not to mention bad performance) even at small extensions. Not very well suited for this type of work. > I am trying to recreate Blossfeldt images for a class project, any > film and enlarging paper suggestions??? I was going to start with Ilford > Delta 3200 but don't have time or money to test every film. Agfapan 100 developed in Rodinal will give a very nice "feel". > I will also be > renting a polaroid back and metered prism for exposure. A polaroid back is nice, but an expensive way to check exposure. Doing this kind of work, you can do a lot of bracketing. A cheaper option by far. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 19:54:19 +0100 From: "Q.G. de Bakker" To: Subject: Re: belows on 500 series Message-ID: <003001c045c7$7a218740$b6dcf1c3@qnu99> Lynda B wrote: > Which bellows are you using? The manual or automatic? > > I'm considering buying a used bellows. There is a huge price difference > between the two. Can you get good results with the manual one? Absolutely! I have both, but only use the old, non-automatic one. The automatic bellows protrudes in front, colliding with your subject, making it very awkward when you're not using full bellows draw. The non-automatic bellows extends to the back, underneath the camera, out of harm's way. If you're in no particular hurry, you don't have to use the double cable release on the non-auto bellows (which can be a pain to synchronize). A single cable release will do. You will have to work in a large format camera style: 1) Use the cable release, attached to the front standard of the bellows, to close the lens shutter and diaphragm(not pushing it all the way). 2) Prerelease the camera, using the prerelease button on the right side of the body. 3) Wait for all vibrations to die away. 4) Expose by pushing the cable release all the way, releasing it after the exposure is completed. 5) Cycle the body: press the body's shutter release, and rewind the body/film. 6) Rewind the lens using the rewind knob on the bellows' front standard, opening the shutter and diaphragm. Works fine. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 21:00:13 EST From: Stymulus@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: belows on 500 series Message-ID: What films are PXP and TXT? In a message dated 11/3/00 6:24:05 AM, aigner.ez@terra.com.br writes: << I use that combination almost every week thought I have never tried the 120. The 80 and 150 are just great. You do not need to use 3200 film, try PXP or TXT. The exposure (with two photofloods 250w) range from 1s to 1/4s f11/16 on a PlusX rated at iso 32. There is an compensating exposure scale on the bellows, that is a starting point only. good luck EDUARDO AIGNER > hello fellow image obsessors- > > Does anyone have experience with bellows on a 500 series? I have a 80mm > and a 120 planar and was wondering if anyone had experiece with which lenses > worked best with the bellows. I was thinking of renting a 40mm to check what > it does. I am trying to recreate Blossfeldt images for a class project, any > film and enlarging paper suggestions??? I was going to start with Ilford > Delta 3200 but don't have time or money to test every film. I will also be > renting a polaroid back and metered prism for exposure. Any suggestions > would be appreciated! > > > thanks guys, > > Brian ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html >> ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #1038 ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. 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