hasselblad Fri, 17 Nov 2000 Volume 1 : Number 1051 In this issue: Carry-on sizes Re: ND Graduated Resin Filters Maximum depth of field Henry Posner 's reply.... Re: Maximum depth of field Re: Henry Posner 's reply.... Re: Maximum depth of field Cayman Camera Re: Cayman Camera Re: Henry Posner 's reply.... Re: Cayman Camera Re: New Digital Hasselblad Re: Henry Posner 's reply.... B&H RE: Henry Posner 's reply.... Agfa APX 25 (120) for sale X-pan sales Re: Henry Posner 's reply.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:17:47 -0800 From: "RICH" To: Subject: Carry-on sizes Message-ID: <000201c04fe0$605f49a0$e39f1d3f@rjiredff> As far as the Porter's carry-on list is concerned I know that at least in the case of AA it is wrong. The TOTAL measurement is no longer used. AA uses SPECIFIC Length - Width - Height parameters and now uses in some cases a template that fits over the x-ray machine belt through which you bag must fit. (this is being used more and more frequently. Best go to each specific airlines website for their parameters. The LowePro Pro-roller 1 has been designed to fit the more stringent measurements. These requirements are at present being haphazardly enforced but look for them to become more and more de rigor. Rich P.S. Was that "thinking "out-of-the-box" line meant to be a hassi-pun? That new digital Hassi is for sure out of the box! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:47:37 -0500 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: ND Graduated Resin Filters Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20001116104658.00b4f840@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:19 AM 11/16/2000, you wrote: >All of the graduated filters that I know of are not square. Tiffen has 3x3 & 4x4 square grad ND filters. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:01:18 -0800 From: Nitzan Tagansky To: Subject: Maximum depth of field Message-ID: Hello everybody, A little new to this all and was wondering about what was the best way of getting maximum depth of field from very close to very far.... I read something about focusing on half of what it says on the depth of field scales..... can someone clarify? And if I want a super clear landscape photograph say (death vally cracked earth from very close to very far, how should I go about it.... was reading about the 903 camera and was wondering if that would be the best way to go about it. Your advise would be much appreciated! Thanks, Nitzan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:08:00 -0800 From: Nitzan Tagansky To: Subject: Henry Posner 's reply.... Message-ID: Henry, Isn't it bad enough that you guys down at B&H all have a notoriously bad attitude that you have to bring yours into this group??? I think it's you guys who need to think outside the "box". (and for the record - I'm jewish too.) Nitzan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:30:59 -0800 From: Aaron Wallace To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Maximum depth of field Message-ID: <20153604700483@ifact.com> At 03:01 PM 11/16/00 -0800, Nitzan wrote: >Hello everybody, > >A little new to this all and was wondering about what was the best way of >getting maximum depth of field from very close to very far.... > >I read something about focusing on half of what it says on the depth of >field scales..... can someone clarify? > >And if I want a super clear landscape photograph say (death vally cracked >earth from very close to very far, how should I go about it.... was reading >about the 903 camera and was wondering if that would be the best way to go >about it. The basic idea is you'll want to: 1) Stop down the lens as much as possible (f/22, unless you need to be "between" stops) 2) Focus so that the infinity marking is aligned with the "far" 22 (or whatever the f-stop is) on the depth-of-field (DOF) scale. In theory, everything between the "near" and "far" distances on the DOF scale for the given f-stop should be in focus, but this really depends on the grain of the film you're using. Best bet is to do some tests to determine how much defocusing you can get away with before the background is unacceptably out of focus. For Velvia with a CB 80, I usually set infinity to the next stop down (i.e. if shooting f/22, I'll set it at the "far" f/16). If it's very windy or hazy, having the background more out of focus may not matter. If this doesn't give you enough depth of field, you're pretty much left with: 3) Rent/borrow/buy a Flexbody and use the tilt feature 4) Use a wider-angle lens--the SWC can focus everything from 22" to infinity when fully stopped down. 5) Raise the camera/tripod--this will effectively move the foreground further away 6) Take two pictures, focused near and far, and use Photoshop to... Best bet is to test various combinations, write down what you're settings are, and note which ones work best for your setup. -------------------- Aaron Wallace aaron@skeeky.com -------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:59:15 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Kovacs To: Nitzan Tagansky Cc: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Henry Posner 's reply.... Message-ID: Henry has been with this group for a long time and I feel he adds value. Whether he works for B&H or not, he knows alot of products. It's my choice to buy from B&H or not. Let's not get into if B&H is a reputable company or not. -chris On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Nitzan Tagansky wrote: > Henry, > > Isn't it bad enough that you guys down at B&H all have a notoriously bad > attitude that you have to bring yours into this group??? > > I think it's you guys who need to think outside the "box". > > > (and for the record - I'm jewish too.) > > Nitzan > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > -- --------------------------- http://www.stargal.net http://www.stargal.net/photo_gallery ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:23:19 -0800 From: "Peter Klosky" To: , Subject: Re: Maximum depth of field Message-ID: Nitzan, Just to give some theory, there are several ways to get good depth of = field. A technique used by Ansel Adams in landscapes is to use tilts and swings. = If I recall, he tilts the lens down in his work. One of his books, "The = Camera", covers this topic. Another technique I've recently heard about may not apply to landscapes, = but I find it interesting. In some Hollywood movies, you see a near and = far subject both in narrow focus. The way they do this is to use a "split = focus" filter which is more or less an attachment lens that provides for = two different planes of focus. Depending on the precise effect you = require, you select different relative focus separation from a marked set. Back to your question. If you trust the depth of field scales, you could = move the infinity mark to the outer depth of field mark for a given fstop. = If you only somewhat trust the marks, move infinity to the next wider = fstops outer mark. This is another technique, and the one I favor, in = practice, for landscapes. Another technique is to focus one third of the way into the scene. Some, = like me, prefer two thirds, even though this does not match the theory. In = my case, when I'm photographing a large group of people, I tend to focus = on one of the back rows, as those folks will be smaller in the result. = While probably not "correct", it works for me. I suspect an autofocus camera has trouble making these decisions. I don't = want to convince it to make these calls for me, so I'm not planning on = going auto focus any time soon. Peter >>> ntagansk@jcrew.com 11/16/00 06:01PM >>> Hello everybody, A little new to this all and was wondering about what was the best way of getting maximum depth of field from very close to very far.... I read something about focusing on half of what it says on the depth of field scales..... can someone clarify? And if I want a super clear landscape photograph say (death vally cracked earth from very close to very far, how should I go about it.... was = reading about the 903 camera and was wondering if that would be the best way to go about it. Your advise would be much appreciated! Thanks, Nitzan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute = Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing = list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, = or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/Rem= oteListSummary/Hasselblad=20 Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm=20= Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.htm= l ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:39:00 EST From: Digiratidoc@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Cayman Camera Message-ID: <5e.365a95c.2745bc04@aol.com> Anybody know how to get hold of anyone at Cayman Camera. I've emailed them several times (using different servers just in case) and I've never gotten an answer. Do they ever answer email, or do you have to call them? Jim Laird ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:42:26 EST From: DentKimTerry@cs.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Cayman Camera Message-ID: <6a.88445ea.2745bcd2@cs.com> They always answered my email when I dealt with them. Sometimes it takes several days though. Guess they are busy! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:51:33 -0500 From: "jeffcoatphoto" To: Subject: Re: Henry Posner 's reply.... Message-ID: <000b01c0501f$c4e62800$500561ce@oemcomputer> Let me stick "MY" 2 cents in this. I've dealt with B&H now for over 5 yr. and "NOT ONCE" have I been treated other than "EXCELLENTLY". "IF" you have a problem with them or any other company have the "Common Courtesy" to hand "your" problems in private as they should be. Thank you Very Much. Cheers Wilber Jeffcoat, A VERY Satisfied Customer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nitzan Tagansky" To: Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 6:08 PM Subject: Henry Posner 's reply.... > Henry, > > Isn't it bad enough that you guys down at B&H all have a notoriously bad > attitude that you have to bring yours into this group??? > > I think it's you guys who need to think outside the "box". > > > (and for the record - I'm jewish too.) > > Nitzan > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:18:53 EST From: DonjR43198@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Cayman Camera Message-ID: <80.2f670ee.2745c55d@aol.com> In a message dated 11/16/2000 4:40:17 PM Central Standard Time, Digiratidoc@aol.com writes: << Anybody know how to get hold of anyone at Cayman Camera. I've emailed them several times (using different servers just in case) and I've never gotten an answer. Do they ever answer email, or do you have to call them? Jim Laird >> 1-345-949-8359 AND ASK FOR COLLEN MCGAW ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:31:41 EST From: AA2KF@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: New Digital Hasselblad Message-ID: <52.374e823.2745e47d@aol.com> They are awesome!!! Julio ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:46:11 -0500 From: "Jeffrey Frankel" To: Subject: Re: Henry Posner 's reply.... Message-ID: <001201c05038$344fa780$ffa1fea9@vaio> my 2 cents I've bought over the counter as well as over the phone. I've only been treated with curtsey and given all the time needed to compare and make an informed evaluation. B&H bent over backwards to help me when I found a flake of antireflection coating on an inner surface of a new lens. They took the lens back even though I had processed the warranty cards and gave me a brand new one out of the box. kudos to Henry and the gang Jeff > On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Nitzan Tagansky wrote: > > > Henry, > > > > Isn't it bad enough that you guys down at B&H all have a notoriously bad > > attitude that you have to bring yours into this group??? > > > > I think it's you guys who need to think outside the "box". > > > > > > (and for the record - I'm jewish too.) > > > > Nitzan > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:58:47 -0500 From: Marc James Small To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: B&H Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20001116205847.009935f0@pop.roanoke.infi.net> I have been treated quite rudely and without explanation for this in one encounter with B&H but all other dealings with them have been peaceful. And, judging from extraneous input, mine was an abnormal circumstance. I took care of it peacefully: I took my business elsewhere. But I have the highest regard for B&H and am convinced that they are among the finest in the business. Marc msmall@roanoke.infi.net FAX: +540/343-7315 Cha robh bas fir gun ghras fir! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:12:12 -0500 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: Subject: RE: Henry Posner 's reply.... Message-ID: <001301c0503b$cd26d2a0$0100a8c0@paolopent> I too have bought from B&H from the time they started in business, and have always found them honest, very efficient, courteous, and having the best combination of low prices and great service. I only wish they could ship more photo chemicals, so that I could consolidate my photo purchases. Paolo Paolo Pignatelli ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:10:16 -0500 From: BobE To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Agfa APX 25 (120) for sale Message-ID: <3A149388.71B1@shtc.net> I have 17 rolls of Agfa APX 25 (120) for sale. Expired in '98 and have been in my freezer since before that. Won't ever getting around to shooting it so will sell for $21.00 including Priority Mail shipping in cont. US. Need a USPS Mo. Bob Eskridge South Carolina ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:42:02 -0600 From: "Murray E. Milligan" To: Hasselblad Subject: X-pan sales Message-ID: In one of the threads in yesterday's digest, a group member mentioned the sales of the X-Pan as being a rocky road. What's the story on the sales of the X-Pan? Is it going great gang busters or is it a bust? Can anyone suggest url's where I might research this information further? vocatus atque non vocatus deus adent Murray E. Milligan, Winnipeg, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 22:41:42 -0600 From: mark berkley To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Henry Posner 's reply.... Message-ID: <3A14B706.F419826B@gate.net> I for one like B&H Reasonable prices, good inventory. You dont have to "sleep" with the sales staff. For gosh sakes...you are just buying photo equipment. MB Nitzan Tagansky wrote: > > Henry, > > Isn't it bad enough that you guys down at B&H all have a notoriously bad > attitude that you have to bring yours into this group??? > > I think it's you guys who need to think outside the "box". > > (and for the record - I'm jewish too.) > > Nitzan > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #1051 ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. 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