hasselblad Fri, 24 Nov 2000 Volume 1 : Number 1058 In this issue: Selling Gear - Need Advice RE: Nikon list address SV: Hasselblad and film saves the day. Prices! (was: RE: Selling Gear - Need Advice) RE: Hasselblad and film saves the day. RE: Selling Gear - Need Advice X-Pan VS FUJI Re: X-Pan VS FUJI Re: Hasselblad vs Contax Hasselblad vs Contax RE: Prices! (was: RE: Selling Gear - Need Advice) Re: Hasselblad vs Contax Meter knob/hot shoe device Re: Selling Gear - Need Advice ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 00:32:31 -0600 From: "Tom Hellwig" <378139822@worldnet.att.net> To: Subject: Selling Gear - Need Advice Message-ID: <000901c05517$3cb864a0$682a4b0c@TEHELLW> I have been on this list for a little over two years. I signed off the other day because I ended my use of my Hasselblad, but now I am back seeking advice on the best way to sell my gear. I bought the bulk of it 20 months ago and have shot maybe 75 rolls through it. Since then and I have found that having two kids ages one and three and attending night school for an MBA leaves no time to shoot. Obviously, I would like to get the maximum amount I could for the gear, but I'd also prefer not to drag it out by selling piece by piece. It's all in barely used condition (was all bought new) and some filters, etc. were never used. I have all the original boxes and paperwork. I did get a quote from the store at which I bought most of it. They offered about one third of what I paid for it. While I didn't expect to get most of my money back, I wouldn't mind getting a little more than that (I assume that's a viable wholesale quote). Between 40% and 50% of what I paid would be fine with me if that's a realistic retail price. So should I do one of the following, or something else? 1. Take the offer from the store where I purchased it? 2. Attempt to sell it on ebay (as a lot, or piece by piece)? 3. Try some other stores? 4. Any other suggestions? Here's the equipment, and if anyone on the List is interested, of course I am open to offers. I'll apologize in advance because I'm sure the columns won't look as straight when you receive this as they do here. Never seem to anyway. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me out or would like to purchase. For the record, this is my first (and last) "for sale" post to the List. Thanks, Tom Hellwig Brand Item Date Purch Condition Hasselblad 501CM Kit (incl A12 & CB80) 3/29/1999 9+ Hasselblad A12 Back 3/29/1999 9+ Hasselblad A12 Back 3/29/1999 9+ Hasselblad Polaplus 100 Back 3/29/1999 9+ Hasselblad Lens Hood 80CF ser 60 3/29/1999 9 Hasselblad Polarizer Filter ser 60 3/29/1999 10 Hasselblad Yellow Filter ser 60 3/29/1999 10 Hasselblad Green Filter ser 60 3/29/1999 10 Hasselblad Orange Filter ser 60 3/29/1999 10 Hasselblad Red Filter ser 60 3/29/1999 10 Hasselblad Gray ND.9 GR3 Filter ser 60 3/29/1999 10 Hasselblad Proxar 1.0 ser 60 3/29/1999 10 Hasselblad Tripod Quick Coupling 3/29/1999 9 Hasselblad Acute-Mat D Microprism 3/29/1999 9+ Gossen Ultra-Spot 2 Meter 3/29/1999 9 Gitzo G1349 Tripod w/ Ctr Column 3/29/1999 9+ Gitzo Padded Bag ser 3 3/29/1999 9 Arca-Swiss B2 Monoball 5/19/1999 9+ Arca-Swiss Camera Plate Hass 1/4-3/8 5/30/1999 9+ Hasselblad Spirit Level 5/30/1999 9+ Hasselblad Softar II Filter ser 60 10/29/1999 10 Metz 45CL1 Flash 11/30/1999 9+ Billingham 550 Canvas Bag Khaki 7/28/2000 10 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 14:59:57 GMT From: To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE: Nikon list address Message-ID: <92fc595839.9583992fc5@eresmas.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----2724254c14743773 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is the e-mail for suscription rules rules=40nikonusers=2Eorg --- Entra en la comunidad del entretenimiento interactivo=2E Sum=E9rgete en Oniric=2Ecom=2C el portal de juegos de eresMas=2E Haz click aqu=ED=3A http=3A//www=2Eoniric=2Ecom ----2724254c14743773 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="ralday.vcf"; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ralday.vcf Content-Description: Card for Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin:vcard n:Alday Anzola;Rafael fn:Alday Anzola, Rafael version:2.1 email;internet:ralday@eresmas.com end:vcard ----2724254c14743773-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 17:39:59 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?ULF_SJ=D6GREN?= To: Subject: SV: Hasselblad and film saves the day. Message-ID: <001301c0556c$05efbb80$e79597d4@s101194> I was surprised and glad to hear that Dave Brubeck is still alive - and = playin'. That was good news. That Hasselblad and film is better than = digital cameras was no news....;-) Ulf ----- Ursprungligt meddelande -----=20 Fr=E5n: "Jim Brick" Till: ; "HUG" Skickat: den 23 november 2000 00:18 =C4mne: Re: Hasselblad and film saves the day. > At 02:06 PM 11/22/00 -0800, Chris J. DiBona wrote: > > > >Also, your position at agilent didn't allow you to find out how to = disable > >the internal flash, so I don't see what that has to do with anything. = > > > > Chris >=20 > Thanks for the comments Chris, but yes my position at Agilent has/had > everything to do with my knowing how to do anything and everything = doable > on a 990 as we have 990's all over the place, here, and use them for > experimentation and as Polaroid replacements. >=20 > Again, my whole point was that I never intended on using a digital = camera, > theirs or mine, so I simply played ignorant. Which may be more = truthful > than I wish to admit... :-) >=20 > I nearly had a 990 given to me last August as a project joining bonus. = All > I had to do is show up for a dinner but I had tickets to Dave Brubeck > concert (Bach to Brubeck - the Dave Brubeck quartet playing in on the = same > stage with, and with cooperative arrangements, the San Jose Symphony) = so > Dave won out and the 990 lost. I don't miss it. It would still be in = the box. >=20 > Anyway, for real photography, I'll stick to what I know best and what = will > best serve my customer's needs. Film. >=20 > :-) >=20 > Jim >=20 >=20 > "Put the brains in the user, not the camera." > J. Brick > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute = Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing = list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's = subsidiaries, or affiliates. >=20 > To change your subscription status, go to: = http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at = http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at = http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html >=20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:32:27 -0600 From: "Tom Hellwig" <378139822@worldnet.att.net> To: Subject: Prices! (was: RE: Selling Gear - Need Advice) Message-ID: <000201c0557b$d038dde0$412b4b0c@TEHELLW> [this was sent from a non-subscribed email address - Dan C.] Thank you to everyone who replied so far to my query for both the advice and the interest. The number one question I'm being asked (for obvious reasons) is the price I'd like to get. Since I promised not to clutter the list with this, this will be my only response to the group on the subject and serves to clarify the price which I should have done originally. Probably best to respond to me offline. Also, I screwed up my re-subscription last night, but have fixed it, so if you responded only to the List and it was before 9:00 a.m. Central this morning, I didn't get it. Directly to me or after that then I have it. As far as sale venue goes, I've decided to first offer it to this List. As I said, my number one choice is to sell it as a lot, so I will sell this lot for the first offer I receive for $4000 firm. That represents 45.3% of what I paid after rebates but before tax or shipping and a 24.4% discount on the prices listed below. Incidentally, I'll pay shipping via FedEx standard whether it's one piece or all (I get a little discount). If this fails I'll go ebay or KEH or whatever. If the above offer for the whole lot is not met by 5:00 p.m. central time on Tuesday 11/28 (to give all a chance to return from the holiday), I will sell it piece by piece to any individuals from who I have received offers (first come first served) who meet the prices below. They represent 60% of the price I paid, figuring I'll probably end up stuck with some of it. I believe I'm pricing below market, but if I'm wrong I'm sure someone will let me know. I've added the prices to the descriptions in the original message below (and chopped out most of the message). If you've already made the first offer and it's at or above the price below, I'll give you the price below (if the lot doesn't sell). If I may make a sales pitch for a couple items, the B2 monoball is the coolest thing on earth. It pivots on all axes, so for a level shot you don't need to level the tripod. You just loosen up the axes and level the camera with the spirit level, then tighten them all up. If you're not shooting exactly level, you can just gross level the tripod, level the camera and then change the one axis you need (i.e. pitch). Also, the Gossen meter allows a novice (me) to meter like a pro. I really won't complain if I get stuck with these two items as I'll probably continue to rent a Hassy on occasion and they'll come in handy. Thanks to all on this List who have offered me advice and knowledge of over the last three years or so. I don't want any ill will with the List since I'll probably be back some day, so I'll refund any money if you don't believe the item is as I've described, but I doubt that will be a problem because I've tried to be conservative. Tom Hellwig (636) 477-0479 P.S. Regarding "first offer" if you've already expressed an interest were first to do so and now back it up with an offer (for the lot or individually) I will consider you "first" based on your original email. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Hellwig [mailto:378139822@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 12:33 AM To: 'hasselblad@kelvin.net' Subject: Selling Gear - Need Advice I have been on this list for a little over two years. I signed off the other day because I ended my use of my Hasselblad, but now I am back seeking advice on the best way to sell my gear. I bought the bulk of it 20 months ago and have shot maybe 75 rolls through it. Since then and I have found that having two kids ages one and three and attending night school for an MBA leaves no time to shoot. Brand Item Date Purch Condition Individual Price Hasselblad 501CM Kit (incl A12 & CB80) 3/29/1999 9+ $1557 Hasselblad A12 Back 3/29/1999 9+ $393 Hasselblad A12 Back 3/29/1999 9+ $393 Hasselblad Polaplus 100 Back 3/29/1999 9+ $219 Hasselblad Lens Hood 80CF ser 60 3/29/1999 9 $54 Hasselblad Polarizer Filter ser 60 3/29/1999 10 $138 Hasselblad Yellow Filter ser 60 3/29/1999 10 $72 Hasselblad Green Filter ser 60 3/29/1999 10 $72 Hasselblad Orange Filter ser 60 3/29/1999 10 $72 Hasselblad Red Filter ser 60 3/29/1999 10 $72 Hasselblad Gray ND.9 GR3 Filter ser 60 3/29/1999 10 $72 Hasselblad Proxar 1.0 ser 60 3/29/1999 10 $105 Hasselblad Tripod Quick Coupling 3/29/1999 9 $63 Hasselblad Acute-Mat D Microprism 3/29/1999 9+ $156 Gossen Ultra-Spot 2 Meter 3/29/1999 9 $333 Gitzo G1349 Tripod w/ Ctr Column 3/29/1999 9+ $507 Gitzo Padded Bag ser 3 3/29/1999 9 $66 Arca-Swiss B2 Monoball 5/19/1999 9+ $390 Arca-Swiss Camera Plate Hass 1/4-3/8 5/30/1999 9+ $32 Hasselblad Spirit Level 5/30/1999 9+ $38 Hasselblad Softar II Filter ser 60 10/29/1999 10 $128 Metz 45CL1 Flash 11/30/1999 9+ $124 Billingham 550 Canvas Bag Khaki 7/28/2000 10 $237 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 13:29:58 -0600 From: "Len Paris" To: Subject: RE: Hasselblad and film saves the day. Message-ID: <000301c05583$c40c6fc0$9bbdb318@belvil1.il.home.com> > I nearly had a 990 given to me last August as a > project joining bonus. All > I had to do is show up for a dinner but I had tickets > to Dave Brubeck > concert (Bach to Brubeck - the Dave Brubeck quartet > playing in on the same > stage with, and with cooperative arrangements, the > San Jose Symphony) so > Dave won out and the 990 lost. I don't miss it. It > would still be in the box. I certainly can't dispute your taste in music. :) The only thing I do with a digital camera is family snapshots to email to family and friends. Not that I'm a digital basher, far from it. I just can't afford any of the digital cameras that can compete with film, especially medium format. When I can afford one, I'll probably have one. Len There are two rules for ultimate success in life: 1. Never tell everything you know. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 13:51:34 -0600 From: "Len Paris" To: , Subject: RE: Selling Gear - Need Advice Message-ID: <000401c05586$c867d340$9bbdb318@belvil1.il.home.com> > Obviously, I would like to get the maximum amount I > could for the gear, but > I'd also prefer not to drag it out by selling piece > by piece. It's all in > barely used condition (was all bought new) and some > filters, etc. were never > used. I have all the original boxes and paperwork. > I did get a quote from > the store at which I bought most of it. They offered > about one third of > what I paid for it. While I didn't expect to get > most of my money back, I > wouldn't mind getting a little more than that (I > assume that's a viable > wholesale quote). Between 40% and 50% of what I paid > would be fine with me > if that's a realistic retail price. Well, you started out right by listing it here. Selling to a store will, at best get you only 60% of what the store figures they can get reselling the equipment. That's not a bad price, really, considering the stores usually have to offer some sort of money back guarantee and a warranty to their customers. They also have to figure in how long the equipment will sit on their shelves waiting for a buyer. They need a return on their investment to stay in business. If you can't get satisfactory prices here, perhaps you should reconsider selling your equipment piece-by-piece on eBay. Be sure to describe it accurately and provide good pictures of each item you place on auction. I've seen many items sell for more than retail (used prices) on eBay, and this could well maximize the amount you get for them. To insure quick, safe transactions, I would recommend that you become a registered and verified user of PayPal and that you specify the use of PayPal in your auctions. Of course, there's no risk in accepting money orders and bank drafts but being a verified PayPal user will give many potential buyers a very warm fuzzy feeling about dealing with you, especially if they too are PayPal verified users. Sorry to have taken so many words for this. Len --- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:41:12 -0800 From: "RICH" To: Subject: X-Pan VS FUJI Message-ID: <000501c0558d$b78e9b60$027e273f@rjiredff> I am sure the X-Pan would compete against the Fuji 6X17 at normal enlargement sizes... but take the prints big and the Fuji will win every time... Nothing to do with quality of equipment.. just the format. Rich ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 15:54:06 EST From: BLADHASS@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: X-Pan VS FUJI Message-ID: --part1_ee.d726fbc.274eddee_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/00 12:43:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, leicaman@email.msn.com writes: > I am sure the X-Pan would compete against the Fuji 6X17 at normal > enlargement sizes... but take the prints big and the Fuji will win every > time... Nothing to do with quality of equipment.. just the format. > > The prints size we have been making from the Fuji has been 8x24 from Portra 400VC. The prints from the X-Pan was also 8x24 on Porta 400VC. And yes if we started to go bigger I'm sure the Fuji would shine, but side by side at that size, its very close. My friend did trade is Fuji in for the Linhoff 6x17 claims its better. I have used the Fuji for the last two years and find it to be a great camera. I love its prints from the slower speed films. But that little X-Pan is great camera. Peter Peterson --part1_ee.d726fbc.274eddee_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/23/00 12:43:00 PM Pacific Standard Time,
leicaman@email.msn.com writes:


I am sure the X-Pan would compete against the Fuji 6X17 at normal
enlargement sizes... but take the prints big and the Fuji will win every
time... Nothing to do with quality of equipment.. just the format.

Rich


      The prints size we have been making from the Fuji has been 8x24 from
Portra 400VC. The prints from the X-Pan was also 8x24 on Porta 400VC. And yes
if we started to go bigger I'm sure the Fuji would shine, but side by side at
that size, its very close. My friend did trade is Fuji in for the Linhoff
6x17 claims its better. I have used the Fuji for the last two years and find
it to be a great camera. I love its prints from the slower speed films.
      But that little X-Pan is great camera.
Peter Peterson --part1_ee.d726fbc.274eddee_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 22:54:39 -0000 From: "Simon Lamb" To: Subject: Re: Hasselblad vs Contax Message-ID: <006f01c055a0$5c2aa1c0$4a707bd5@simonhome> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C055A0.5BD6B560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looks like the Contax is going! It will take some serious glass to beat = the 180 CF. Simon ----- Original Message -----=20 From: BLADHASS@aol.com=20 To: hasselblad@kelvin.net=20 Sent: 23 November 2000 01:34 Subject: Re: Hasselblad vs Contax I just loaned out my Hasselblad to a friend. He will be = conducting=20 tests between the Contax 645 and the Hasselblad 503. He is making this = test=20 only to determine which camera will make the sharpest prints. I also = loaned=20 him my 100CF and 180CF.=20 I will post his findings here when all is done. He claims he = will sell=20 all his Contax gear if the Hasselblad is sharper. Anybody need a nice = clean=20 Contax 645 with a 45, 80, 140, 210.=20 Peter Peterson=20 ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C055A0.5BD6B560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looks like the Contax is going!  It will take = some=20 serious glass to beat the 180 CF.
 
Simon
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 BLADHASS@aol.com=20
Sent: 23 November 2000 = 01:34
Subject: Re: Hasselblad vs = Contax

     I just = loaned out my=20 Hasselblad to a friend. He will be conducting
tests between the = Contax 645=20 and the Hasselblad 503. He is making this test
only to determine=20  which camera will make the sharpest prints. I also loaned =
him my=20 100CF  and 180CF.
      I will = post his=20 findings here when all is done. He claims he will sell
all his = Contax gear=20 if the Hasselblad is sharper. Anybody need a nice clean
Contax 645 = with a=20 45, 80, 140, 210.
Peter Peterson = ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C055A0.5BD6B560-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 15:09:25 -0800 From: Mark Rabiner To: "hasselblad@kelvin.net" Subject: Hasselblad vs Contax Message-ID: <3A1DA3A6.5B2A8B6D@rabiner.cncoffice.com> ks like the Contax is going! It will take some serious glass to beat the 180 CF. Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: BLADHASS@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Sent: 23 November 2000 01:34 Subject: Re: Hasselblad vs Contax I just loaned out my Hasselblad to a friend. He will be conducting tests between the Contax 645 and the Hasselblad 503. He is making this test only to determine which camera will make the sharpest prints. I also loaned him my 100CF and 180CF. I will post his findings here when all is done. He claims he will sell all his Contax gear if the Hasselblad is sharper. Anybody need a nice clean Contax 645 with a 45, 80, 140, 210. Peter Peterson Is Zeiss made in German going to be better than Zeiss made in Japan. The actual operation of a Contax 645 would be so much different than ANY configuration of Hasselblad: low tech to high tech that the difference would be like apples and orages; day and night. Instead of compare glass.... Compare the operation of a 200 series Blad with winder and low eyepoint finder and A32 back. It's NOT going to operate like, feel anything like ANY 645 camera i e: Pentax, Mamiya, Contax. But the Contax glass is Zeiss and i don't think the "made in Japan" is going to make any difference. AND the Contax glass will fit on their new 35mm format N1 system. I could get into Contax 645. But i would never expect it to replace my Hasselblad system. I'd use it for different things. Certainly less Tripod orientated stuff. I use a tripod with my Hasselblads more than half the time. mark rabiner :) http://spokenword.to/rabiner/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:30:18 -0600 From: "Tom Hellwig" <378139822@worldnet.att.net> To: Subject: RE: Prices! (was: RE: Selling Gear - Need Advice) Message-ID: <000001c055b6$826156c0$46294b0c@TEHELLW> Dan, please forward if my email still is not working. Thank you and it will be the last one!! To the List: Thank you for all the interest and advice on my gear. I did sell the lot today to two List members and I think everyone will be happy. Thanks again, and I've enjoyed your company. Tom Hellwig -----Original Message----- From: Tom Hellwig [mailto:378139822@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 12:32 PM To: 'hasselblad@kelvin.net' Subject: Prices! (was: RE: Selling Gear - Need Advice) Thank you to everyone ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 21:57:43 EST From: BLADHASS@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Hasselblad vs Contax Message-ID: <5d.3beba16.274f3327@aol.com> --part1_5d.3beba16.274f3327_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why my friend is testing the two cameras against each is a question I cannot answer. I have played with the Contax and find it to be more camera then I need. I can say that I think the Hasselblad is a much better camera then the Contax for one simple reason, its a simple camera to use. Even in wedding photography I can see no need for all the bells & whistles of the Contax. I assume the sharpness of lens will be right on with each other, except for the Hass 100mmCF compared to the 80mm Contax. Peter Peterson PS anybody looking for a PME90 finder --part1_5d.3beba16.274f3327_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why my friend is testing the two cameras against each is a question I cannot
answer. I have played with the Contax and find it to be more camera then I
need. I can say that I think the Hasselblad is a much better camera then the
Contax for one simple reason, its a simple camera to use. Even in wedding
photography I can see no need for all the bells & whistles of the Contax. I
assume the sharpness of lens will be right on with each other, except for the
Hass 100mmCF compared to the 80mm Contax.
Peter Peterson
PS anybody looking for a PME90 finder --part1_5d.3beba16.274f3327_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 21:28:08 -0600 From: "Murray E. Milligan" To: Hasselblad Subject: Meter knob/hot shoe device Message-ID: I fell into a brand new Hassie anatomical grip for my 500C. Is there any kind of Hassie or 3rd party attachment that permits me to attach my meter knob to the hot shoe of the grip? Any url's, objective and constructive assistance will be greatly appreciated. vocatus atque non vocatus deus adent Murray E. Milligan, Winnipeg, Canada ------------------------------ Date: 23 Nov 2000 19:33:08 +0800 From: "Patrick Bartek" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Selling Gear - Need Advice Message-ID: > I have been on this list for a little over two years. I signed off the > other day because I ended my use of my Hasselblad, but now I am back seeking > advice on the best way to sell my gear. I bought the bulk of it 20 months > ago and have shot maybe 75 rolls through it. Since then and I have found > that having two kids ages one and three and attending night school for an > MBA leaves no time to shoot. Unless you NEED the money, why sell? Keep it. (My 'Blads are 30 years old, have had thousands of rolls through them, and are still going strong.) Pack it safely away, because in a couple of years you'll have your MBA, your children will be older and not quite as demanding, and you'll have the time to start taking pictures again, and a 35mm point-n-shoot just won't hack it. -- Patrick Bartek NoLife Polymath Group bartek@pdai.com ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #1058 ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html