hasselblad Tue, 24 Apr 2001 Volume 1 : Number 1206 In this issue: Re: Need advice for a Wedding Re: portrait business--where to start Best enlarging lens for Hasselblad and 6X7 RE: 20x shutter/aperture coupling? Re: A complaint, or no???????? (LONG) RE: 20x shutter/aperture coupling? Re: Best enlarging lens for Hasselblad and 6X7 Re: Best enlarging lens for Hasselblad and 6X7 RE: 20x shutter/aperture coupling? AW: 20x shutter/aperture coupling? RE: Best enlarging lens for Hasselblad and 6X7 RE: Best enlarging lens for Hasselblad and 6X7 RE: 20x shutter/aperture coupling? Variogon Re: Best enlarging lens for Hasselblad and 6X7 dealers etc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:23:37 +0800 From: "Stein" To: Subject: Re: Need advice for a Wedding Message-ID: <01c201c0cbe7$fa4e6720$b0b237cb@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BF_01C0CC2A.E57AD8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Anthony, This may seem a long time to take to reply to your request, but I have = been away in the eastern states doing a conference job and just got home = to answer the emails. I got a chance to read the other replies and to = laugh or cry accordingly. Take that good advice about the film and the flash. Go out to the = sunset location and measure the light and take a test roll to see what = your silhouette picture will look like. Go round the reception venue and = poke a meter into the dark corners and see where you might be able to = get some candids. By all means use your monolight and blue drop, but have a care about = what the bridesmaids are wearing - blue and green should never be seen. = If you can get a small slave unit and put it on your monolight and flash = from the camera position too, you have 2 flash lighting. Whoopee. If you = can do this in the face of the setting sun, you can do it in the = reception. =20 The thing to remember is you CAN do it. If you can cope with life in = the infantry you can cope with life in the weddings. It is only partly = technical and only partly artistic - a great deal of it is also = spiritual. You have to approach the job in a kindly manner and be = prepared to exercise a great deal of patience and tact. ( Occasionally = you will need to kill one of the guests at the wedding but if you have = been in the infantry you will be used to this. ) You have a priceless advantage over the hired man in shooting this = wedding - you care about the happiness of the couple more than you care = about the fee. Don't let your friend superintend the development and = proofing of the films. Have that done by your lab and then have him pay = for that work. Give him the negatives, don't let him pay you, and take = your fee in the experience that the day has brought. Learn from the = pressure and the timing and your next weddings will be better and = better. Then, charge for them. Get a spare 35mm SLR that will couple with your flash and enough = film of the same type that you will use for the main shooting and keep = it in reserve in case of breakdowns. Every commander should have a = second regiment in the woods.... Uncle Dick PS: If you miss The Kiss at the end of the ceremony yell out to them to = stop and do it again and they will. Then yell it out again and the whole = place will burst into laughter. But they will do it again.... PPS: If you can get to the groom waiting nervously for his bride ask = hurredly what the time is. 9 times out of 10 he will instinctively look = at his watch and you get a fast candid of him doing it. If your luck is = in the whole wedding party will look at their watches at the same time. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_01BF_01C0CC2A.E57AD8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Anthony,
 
 This may seem a long time to take to reply = to your=20 request, but I have been away in the eastern states doing a = conference job=20 and just got home to answer the emails. I got a chance to read the other = replies=20 and to laugh or cry accordingly.
 
    Take that good advice about = the film=20 and the flash. Go out to the sunset location and measure the light and = take a=20 test roll to see what your silhouette picture will look like. Go round=20 the reception venue and poke a meter into the dark corners and see = where=20 you might be able to get some candids.
 
    By all means use your = monolight and=20 blue drop, but have a care about what the bridesmaids are wearing - blue = and=20 green should never be seen. If you can get a small slave unit and put it = on your=20 monolight and flash from the camera position too, you have 2 flash = lighting.=20 Whoopee. If you can do this in the face of the setting sun, you can do = it in the=20 reception.
   
    The thing to remember is you = CAN do it.=20 If you can cope with life in the infantry you can cope with life in the=20 weddings. It is only partly technical and only partly artistic - a great = deal of=20 it is also spiritual. You have to approach the job in a kindly manner = and be=20 prepared to exercise a great deal of patience and tact. ( Occasionally = you will=20 need to kill one of the guests at the wedding but if you have been in = the=20 infantry you will be used to this. )
 
    You have a priceless = advantage over the=20 hired man in shooting this wedding - you care about the happiness = of the=20 couple more than you care about the fee. Don't let your friend = superintend the development and proofing of the films. Have that done by = your=20 lab and then have him pay for that work. Give him the negatives, don't = let him=20 pay you, and take your fee in the experience that the day has brought. = Learn=20 from the pressure and the timing and your next weddings will be better = and=20 better. Then, charge for them.
 
    Get a spare 35mm SLR that = will couple=20 with your flash and enough film of the same type that you will use for = the main=20 shooting and keep it in reserve in case of breakdowns. Every commander = should=20 have a second regiment in the woods....
 
Uncle Dick
 
PS: If you miss The Kiss at the end of the = ceremony yell=20 out to them to stop and do it again and they will. Then yell it out = again and=20 the whole place will burst into laughter. But they will do it=20 again....
 
PPS:    If you can get to the = groom waiting=20 nervously for his bride ask hurredly what the time is. 9 times out of 10 = he will=20 instinctively look at his watch and you get a fast candid of him doing = it. If=20 your luck is in the whole wedding party will look at their watches at = the same=20 time.
 
   
------=_NextPart_000_01BF_01C0CC2A.E57AD8E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:38:01 +0800 From: "Stein" To: Subject: Re: portrait business--where to start Message-ID: <01e401c0cbea$05a8aca0$b0b237cb@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01E1_01C0CC2C.E84A88C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Lisa, Find yourself a niche market. I stumbled upon mine at a hobbies show = when I set up a backdrop and took portraits of medieval reenactors for = their club magazine. Then a couple of belly dancers wandered over to see = what I was doing and I took a few dance poses for them and it is 5 years = later and I have 33 wives and a blue silk sultan's outfit and a harem = set in the studio and new tiled floor for them to dance on and life is = very good. Get yourself a window in the town and persuade the shop owner to = let you put a portrait a week in it. Change it every week and peole will = get in the habit of passing the window to see who is in this week. = Needless to say you get permission from the sitter to put them in the = window. Do team photos for the local little league or volunteer bushfire = brigade. If the firemen are cute you can get them to take their shirts = off and pose with their hoses. Do a freeby for the Country Womens = Association and they will never forget you. Mind you, neither will the firemen.... Uncle Dick ------=_NextPart_000_01E1_01C0CC2C.E84A88C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Lisa,
 
    Find yourself a = niche market. I=20 stumbled upon mine at a hobbies show when I set up a backdrop and took = portraits=20 of medieval reenactors for their club magazine. Then a couple of belly = dancers=20 wandered over to see what I was doing and I took a few dance poses = for them=20 and it is 5 years later and I have 33 wives and a blue silk = sultan's outfit=20 and a harem set in the studio and new tiled floor for them to dance on = and life=20 is very good.
 
     Get yourself a = window in=20 the town and persuade the shop owner to let you put a portrait a week in = it.=20 Change it every week and peole will get in the habit of passing the = window to=20 see who is in this week. Needless to say you get permission from the = sitter to=20 put them in the window.
 
    Do team photos for = the local=20 little league or volunteer bushfire brigade. If the firemen are cute you = can get=20 them to take their shirts off and pose with their hoses. Do a freeby for = the=20 Country Womens Association and they will never forget you.
 
    Mind you, neither = will the=20 firemen....
 
    Uncle = Dick
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_01E1_01C0CC2C.E84A88C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:24:53 -0300 From: "Eduardo Aigner" To: Subject: Best enlarging lens for Hasselblad and 6X7 Message-ID: <009701c0cbee$bbd187a0$0712b0c8@ig> > The Nikon 105 is the top of the Nikon line and worthy of serious consideration. > Worthy of the results you expect from your top quality Zeiss and Leica camera lenses. > Or other premium glass. > Mark Rabiner These are my words. Unless you need larger than average prints this is the right lens for you. AIGNER ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:16:36 -0400 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: 20x shutter/aperture coupling? Message-ID: > > The 205FCC doesn't couple the shutter/aperture ring, like my 2003 and 2000 > > do... I am curious if the other 20x models don't couple either? It's kind > > of annoying, when in manual mode, not to have them couple! > Still, the lens coupling of the older lenses was a very elegant way to GUARANTEE > that you kept the exposure constant as you changed (for example) depth of field. I have a number of "F" lenses, which, obviously, don't have the electrical contacts. It would be nice to be able to meter with them (either full open, or with the aperture stopped down) and then couple them to set the aperture/shutter speed I want. But...no can do on the 205 (and any of the other 20x series cameras, from what I can tell). I can't imagine why they intentionally removed this very useful feature! I'm going to give Hasselblad service a call today and see if the shutter speed rings are interchangeable...and if they can install an earlier 200x shutter speed ring on my 205FCC so I get coupling. From what I can tell, the ring on my 2003FC/W and 205FCC are, for all practical purposes, marked identically. The only difference being the color of the "C" (red on the 2003FC/W and white on the 205FCC), and the symbol for the flash sync speed (red "x" on the 2003FC/W and a lightning bolt on the 205FCC). Neither of which will obviously effect operation. I don't imagine it would have been hard for them to have an "EV" display mode on the cameras with meters in the body... Kind of annoying they made it so difficult to use the "F" series lenses on the new bodies! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:01:22 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: A complaint, or no???????? (LONG) Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010423100021.00c1b2c0@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:35 AM 04/23/2001, you wrote: >I have had many things that I generated for Hasselblad stolen from me in >the past, and this time I am prepared to put up a fight. A shame this happened to you and best of luck in your efforts to protect your stuff. Having had the B&H links pages and other copyright material "borrowed" from our web site several times, I totally sympathize. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 07:32:45 -0700 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE: 20x shutter/aperture coupling? Message-ID: <4.1.20010423073016.040005a0@xsj02.sjs.agilent.com> At 08:16 AM 4/23/01 -0400, Austin Franklin wrote: > >I'm going to give Hasselblad service a call today and see if the shutter >speed rings are interchangeable...and if they can install an earlier 200x >shutter speed ring on my 205FCC so I get coupling. From what I can tell, >the ring on my 2003FC/W and 205FCC are, for all practical purposes, marked >identically. The only difference being the color of the "C" (red on the >2003FC/W and white on the 205FCC), and the symbol for the flash sync speed >(red "x" on the 2003FC/W and a lightning bolt on the 205FCC). Neither of >which will obviously effect operation. > Last time you posted camera models that you own, you had a 205TCC. Did you buy yet another??? A 205FCC ? What was wrong with the TCC? Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 07:41:22 -0700 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Best enlarging lens for Hasselblad and 6X7 Message-ID: <4.1.20010423073316.04010370@xsj02.sjs.agilent.com> At 11:32 PM 4/22/01 -0400, Digiratidoc@aol.com wrote: >Any opinions on what enlarging lens would best cover 6X6 and 6X7 with good >quality results? I have both Hasselblad and Pentax 67 and have used both for >some time for transparency and color lab prints but have never had access to >a darkroom. I finally found the time and am in the process of building one. >Just found a good used Beseler enlarger and I'm in a quandary about which >enlarging lens to buy. Any response would be greatly appreciated. > >Jim I use the latest Schneider APO Componon HM 90/4.5 and in fifty years, it is the best enlarging lens I've ever owned and used. And I have had dozens. Actually, I think the entire line of APO Componon HM lenses are about as good as you can get without selling your house for a multi-thousand dollar Zeiss lens. Even there, I'm not sure any difference could be humanly detectable. I have the 40/2.8, 90/4.5, & the 150/4. I bought them when Schneider was giving a $50 rebate on enlarging lenses. A chap that tests Leica lenses, films, processes, etc. also thinks the Schneider APO Componon's are currently on top of the heap. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 07:52:02 -0700 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Best enlarging lens for Hasselblad and 6X7 Message-ID: <4.1.20010423075117.04014ad0@xsj02.sjs.agilent.com> You can visit the Schneider APO Componon HM's at: http://www.schneideroptics.com/enlarge/apo/apo.htm Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:55:20 -0400 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: 20x shutter/aperture coupling? Message-ID: > Last time you posted camera models that you own, you had a 205TCC. Did you > buy yet another??? A 205FCC ? What was wrong with the TCC? Nothing was wrong with the TCC. I got a great deal on an FCC, and sold my TCC for basically more than the FCC cost me ;-). The FCC also came with a lot of 'stuff', that I either already have, or don't need, which even made the deal better since I can sell that 'stuff'. I did look through Wildi last night. He says that the shutter/aperture couple on the 200x series...but leaves out the 20x models in the statement (p. 34, 5th Edition). I would venture a guess from that, none of the 20x series have the coupled shutter/aperture. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:05:04 +0200 From: Warnecke Gerald To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: AW: 20x shutter/aperture coupling? Message-ID: <49CBE99F005FD411B8430000D1DD52E925945E@blns206e.bln.icn.siemens.de> Hello everyone! > -----Urspr> =FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Austin Franklin [SMTP:darkroom@ix.netcom.com] > Gesendet am: Montag, 23. April 2001 16:55 > An: hasselblad@kelvin.net > Betreff: RE: 20x shutter/aperture coupling? >=20 >=20 > > Last time you posted camera models that you own, you had a 205TCC. = Did you > > buy yet another??? A 205FCC ? What was wrong with the TCC? > Nothing was wrong with the TCC. I got a great deal on an FCC, and = sold my > TCC for basically more than the FCC cost me ;-). The FCC also came = with a > lot of 'stuff', that I either already have, or don't need, which = even made > the deal better since I can sell that 'stuff'. > I did look through Wildi last night. He says that the = shutter/aperture > couple on the 200x series...but leaves out the 20x models in the = statement > (p. 34, 5th Edition). I would venture a guess from that, none of = the 20x > series have the coupled shutter/aperture. I was at Photokina in Cologne last year and had a closer look to the = 20x bodies. So I can confirm that the shutter speed rings don't have teeth = inside any more (which is used for shutter/aperture coupling). And also the = Hasselblad 60-120 zoom lens doesn't have the button for the coupling :-( Fortunately the Zeiss FE 300/2,8 has. Gerald ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:22:13 -0400 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: Best enlarging lens for Hasselblad and 6X7 Message-ID: > Any opinions on what enlarging lens would best cover 6X6 and 6X7 > with good quality results? I don't know what your price range is, but the Schneider Componon-S 80/4 is an excellent lense for the money (and for this format film), and would certainly give you 'good quality results'. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:25:41 -0400 From: "Derek Zeanah" To: Subject: RE: Best enlarging lens for Hasselblad and 6X7 Message-ID: I just sold one of these on eBay. *Excellent* lens, offering great quality with 35mm and 6x6. Just a caveat: Ctein (in his book) suggested that this lens wasn't appropriate for 6x7 because of light fall-off at the edge of the frame. If I remember correctly (am at work now) it was a fraction of a stop, but enough to earn a warning in his "Best Enlarging Lenses in the World" chapter. For what it's worth. I never use 6x7, and found the Componon-S to be all I needed. -----Original Message----- From: Austin Franklin [mailto:darkroom@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 11:22 AM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE: Best enlarging lens for Hasselblad and 6X7 > Any opinions on what enlarging lens would best cover 6X6 and 6X7 > with good quality results? I don't know what your price range is, but the Schneider Componon-S 80/4 is an excellent lense for the money (and for this format film), and would certainly give you 'good quality results'. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:29:49 -0400 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: 20x shutter/aperture coupling? Message-ID: > I was at Photokina in Cologne last year and had a closer > look to the 20x > bodies. So I can confirm that the shutter speed rings don't > have teeth inside > any more (which is used for shutter/aperture coupling). And > also the Hasselblad > 60-120 zoom lens doesn't have the button for the coupling :-( > Fortunately the Zeiss FE 300/2,8 has. I find it almost funny that the new FE lenses (at least the ones I have, and the one you mentioned) do have the coupling button...but the new camera bodies don't support it! Does anyone have an explanation (or even bold speculation ;-) why Hasselblad removed this (IMO) very useful feature? It isn't like having it there interfered with anything...you have to deliberately press the button...and the button serves no other function that I am aware of! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:44:30 -0600 From: josephofegypt@juno.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Variogon Message-ID: <20010423.114432.-354119.0.josephofegypt@juno.com> I was reading Wildi's book and was introduced to the Variogon zoom lens. Anyone want to let me know how good this lens is? And also, would it do well with portraiture? ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: 23 Apr 2001 10:08:57 +0900 From: "Patrick Bartek" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Best enlarging lens for Hasselblad and 6X7 Message-ID: On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 23:32:43 EDT, wrote: > Any opinions on what enlarging lens would best cover 6X6 and 6X7 with good > quality results? I have both Hasselblad and Pentax 67 and have used both for > some time for transparency and color lab prints but have never had access to > a darkroom. I finally found the time and am in the process of building one. > Just found a good used Beseler enlarger and I'm in a quandary about which > enlarging lens to buy. Any response would be greatly appreciated. I've always liked Rodagons. The 80 f4 covers 6x7, and you can find them used. I believe that the 80 Rodagon is the only "regular," non-WA enlarger lens design that covers 6x7. Most other brands you need a 90 to 105. Also, if you want an APO, the APO Rodagon 80 f4 covers 6x7 as well. -- Patrick Bartek NoLife Polymath Group bartek@pdai.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:47:05 -0400 From: Dan Cardish To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: dealers etc. Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010423154705.007eb560@POP6.sympatico.ca> It's amazing how things can go all to hell on the list just at the time when I'm out of town for a few days. Perfect timing. I haven't had a chance to read everything that was posted concerning so and so versus somebody or other and dealer ads posted to the list. I have just updated the guidelines.txt file available at the archives page (http://www.kelvin.net/Hasselblad/guidelines.txt) and listed at the bottom of every (or most) posts to the list. To remind you, a dealer may post a text ad no more than once per week (not necessarily Fridays) and limited to 7500 bytes or less. There should be some Hasselblad content to the ad. If anyone has a problem with this, please email me *privately*. thank you, Dan Cardish ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #1206 ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. 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