hasselblad Sat, 28 Apr 2001 Volume 1 : Number 1210 In this issue: RFV Re: flash tips Re: RFV Re: flash tips Thank you's for flash tips FS: Hassy equip (Leica too) Re: Best enlarging lens (80mm) Re: Heliopan Circular Polarizer filter factor Re: Heliopan Circular Polarizer filter factor FS 4-27-01 Items For Sale ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:01:26 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: RFV Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010427090110.00c1be50@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:40 AM 04/27/2001, you wrote: >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C0CE58.41410D00 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I vote we eliminate these. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:03:20 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: flash tips Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010427090301.00c2f100@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:40 AM 04/27/2001, you wrote: >Henry, >I think I'm getting clearer on what happened. Thanks, but I'm not the one who asked. I KNOW what he did. :-) -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:18:02 -0400 From: Dan Cardish To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: RFV Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010427091802.009b3db0@POP6.sympatico.ca> I agree, except that right now I am unable to automatically filter out non-text postings to the HUG. The options open to me are: moderating all posts to the list, and manually deleting non-text posts (lots of work on my part) issuing warnings to offenders (I do this occasionally, lots of work on my part) removing repeat offenders from list (must be done in conjunction with warnings, lots of work on my part, and mean) checking about getting list software to do this (not sure if it is possible). For now all I can do is plead with list members: PLEASE USE TEXT ONLY MODE WHEN POSTING MESSAGES TO THE HASSELBLAD MAILING LIST. IF YOU ARE UNCERTAIN AS TO WHAT THIS MEANS, PLEASE EMAIL ME OFF-LIST, AND PERHAPS I CAN HELP YOU. Dan Cardish - List Administrator At 09:01 AM 27-04-01 -0400, Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video wrote: >At 03:40 AM 04/27/2001, you wrote: > >>This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >> >>------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C0CE58.41410D00 >>Content-Type: text/plain; >> charset="iso-8859-1" >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >I vote we eliminate these. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:28:41 -0400 From: "Peter Klosky" To: Subject: Re: flash tips Message-ID: <003c01c0cf1d$fa7162f0$230a210a@dulles> Henry, You are most welcome. Peter > At 03:40 AM 04/27/2001, you wrote: > >Henry, > >I think I'm getting clearer on what happened. > > Thanks ... > regards, > Henry Posner > Director of Sales and Training > B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. > http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:48:09 EDT From: COHIBA7@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Thank you's for flash tips Message-ID: --part1_e8.13cedcd9.281ad299_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To the group and especially Dan... Shouldn't things like this be sent privately rather than wasting everyone's time reading an email entitled "Re flash tips" where there are none? We all know that for the most part everyone here is a courteous bunch. No knock on the participants in the above, both of whom are valuable group members with great advice. I am just suggesting something that may save everyone time. Thanks! RL Demsey --part1_e8.13cedcd9.281ad299_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To the group and especially Dan...

Shouldn't things like this be sent privately rather than wasting everyone's
time reading an email entitled "Re flash tips" where there are none?

<Henry,

You are most welcome.

Peter>

We all know that for the most part everyone here is a courteous bunch.  No
knock on the participants in the above, both of whom are valuable group
members with great advice.  I am just suggesting something that may save
everyone time.

Thanks!

RL Demsey
--part1_e8.13cedcd9.281ad299_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:50:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Moore To: Subject: FS: Hassy equip (Leica too) Message-ID: Bought a house. Selling gear. Priced to sell. $4875 - Hassy kit - Hassy 501cm chrome trim - 80/2.8 CFE Planar T* - 120/4 CFi Makro-Planar T* - A12 6x6 back - A12 6x6 back #2 $2875 - Leica M kit - M6TTL black - 21/2.8 ASPH black - Leica 21mm viewfinder - 50/2 Summicron-M black $1775 - Leica "modern" screw-mount lenses: - 50/2 Summicron-LTM w/blank USA warrany (new in box, unused) - 35/2 ASPH Summicron-LTM w/blank USA warranyy ALL ITEMS: I'm the original owner; condition is mint- to mint (M6TTL body is the only exception, with a few light rubs/scratches); all work flawlessly and are current production versions; and all come with original boxes, manuals, caps, hoods, cases, pouches, straps, etc. (where applicable); perfect optics and mechanics; most equipment is under 6 months old. Prices for packages are firm. I will consider splitting up: make a serious no-haggle offer but don't ask me what I want for an individual item. Package buyers get priority. All original owner, a year old or less, with all boxes, manuals, etc. Prepay with cashier's check; shipment within one business day of receipt. Buyer pays shipping and insurance via US postal Priority Mail or FedEx. --Andrew ------------------------------ Date: 26 Apr 2001 21:12:09 +0900 From: "Patrick Bartek" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Best enlarging lens (80mm) Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 00:58:36 +0200, wrote: > Best enlarging lens > > Hello, > I have a question regarding Rodenstock Rodagon 80mm /4.0 > How does it compare with the componon-S, since the prices are very > close, just a few dollars difference. > Is it as good as Schneider? > Does it cover both 6x6 and 6x7? I doubt that you could tell any difference between the standard Rodagons and Componon-S lenses without an optical bench. The 80 f4 Rodagon does cover 6x7, and thusly, 6x6, too. The only non-wide angle 80 that I know of that does. So, does this make Rodagon "better," since the 80 Componon-S only covers 6x6? I have always preferred Rodagons over Schneiders for no reason I really know of. Same with large format optics. -- Patrick Bartek NoLife Polymath Group bartek@pdai.com ------------------------------ Date: 27 Apr 2001 10:43:13 +0900 From: "Patrick Bartek" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Heliopan Circular Polarizer filter factor Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 06:22:16 +0800, kwow wrote: > I've recently face problem with exposure on the above-mention polarizer. > It is marked on the filter ring with a filter factor of 2.5, which > should be about 1.25 f/stops. I never put much trust in filter factors for polarizers. The amount of polarization used directly affects the amount of light that passes through the filter, which of course affects overall exposure. And this effect is not equally proportional: shadows, the sky -- of course -- and reflections of skylight are affected more by polarization than directly illuminated objects. > I would normally perform metering the subject without the polarizer & > fix it on, then adjust the compensation required, without further > metering again. The result is that some of the shots are not exposed > consistently. It should not be my metering method, as I don't face this > problem on shots that do not use the polarizer. The filter factor is not gospel. If the scenes are consistently dark, open up more. Do tests, if you want to do filter factor corrections. Also, if you're considering metering through the filter, even a circular polarizing one, it is reflectance metering, which by its very nature has problems obtaining a "correct" exposure. > It makes me question the filter factor consistency under different > lighting condition. I would appreciate if anyone can advice me on proper > usage of the Heliopan circular polarizer, by the way, mine is the > single-coated type. Here's how I correctly expose a scene using a polarizer: I read the scene with a INCIDENCE meter; open up the lens 2 stops (filter factor of 4) as a correction for the polarizer, then bracket plus/minus 1 stop in half stop increments. I'll get 3 shots out of the 5 that are good: one a darker rendering; "normal", and the other a lighter one -- all acceptable. The remaining 2 shots are trashed. -- Patrick Bartek NoLife Polymath Group bartek@pdai.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 20:54:59 +0200 From: "Q.G. de Bakker" To: Subject: Re: Heliopan Circular Polarizer filter factor Message-ID: <008501c0cf4b$9e068c60$7dc3f1c3@qnu350> Patrick Bartek wrote: > I never put much trust in filter factors for polarizers. The amount > of polarization used directly affects the amount of light that passes > through the filter, which of course affects overall exposure. And > this effect is not equally proportional: shadows, the sky -- of > course -- and reflections of skylight are affected more by > polarization than directly illuminated objects. But don't forget that this selective darkening is the sole reason to use a polarizer. Don't compensate for it, or else you'll end up with the affected ares just as bright as before, but the rest overexposed. > The filter factor is not gospel. If the scenes are consistently dark, > open up more. Do tests, if you want to do filter factor corrections. If scenes contain a lot (in proportion) of polarized light, of course there are few areas left not affected, so the entire scene will look too dark. Best thing to do, i find, is decrease the effect of the polarizer, or not use it at all. It's somewhat similar to using a dark red filter in B&W photography when the only colour in the subject is blue. You might as well use a ND filter, or no filter. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:49:40 -0700 From: Jim Brick To: HUG Subject: FS 4-27-01 Message-ID: <200104280152.SAA15505@spoon.alink.net> Hasselblad 150 CFi f/4.0 Sonnar, LN, used once, all papers, bags, pouches, boxes, etc. USA warranty good until August 2002. $1800. Leica 75/1.4 Summilux, Mint, all papers, bags, pouches, boxes, etc., latest Solms version, still under USA Passport warranty. $1700 On everything... 10DRP (10 Day Return Privalege,) I pay FedEx to US locations. Jim Brick 408-970-2533 (work - week day 7am - 5pm) 408-247-0312 (home - all other times) jim@brick.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:43:46 -0700 (PDT) From: S Gardner To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Items For Sale Message-ID: <20010428024346.4112.qmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> Winnowing my toolkit. Prefer U.S. sales only unless you can help me figure out how to transact across borders. 250mm F/5.6 C lens in original plastic bubble. Shutter works well, glass is free of scratches, very minor dust inside. Focus smooth. Barrel and shutter speed ring shows typical wear. $750 A24 black back. Serviced last year and works well. Typical 'brassing' on edges. $400 For EOS shooters . . . Sigma 70-210mm F/2.8 (constant)with tripod mount, caps, hood and case. Glass is free of scratches, very minor dust inside. Barrel show some wear. I compared this lens with a Canon 70-200 USM and cannot see any difference in the quality of the images. The Canon focuses a bit faster and more quietly, but that's about it. $475 Sigma 105mm F/2.8 EX 'Macro' lens LNIB. Hood, case, caps, box. Bought this for a project, it acquitted itself perfectly and I no longer need it. Sharp! $275 Terms: Payment via US Post Office money order. Shipping at cost. Guaranteed to be as described or you can return for a refund. Digipix and references available. email scottgee1@yahoo.com with questions. Thanks for your interest!/Scott __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #1210 ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html