hasselblad Fri, 1 Jun 2001 Volume 1 : Number 1244 In this issue: Re: virus alert ? Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 this week's stuff Re: virus alert ? Re: virus alert ? gray market lens repair RE: gray market lens repair thin film base= 60 shots in 12 back? Re: thin film base= 60 shots in 12 back? RE: thin film base 60 shots in 12 back? OT: Re: New MF Film Scanners Ektachrome E200? Re: Ektachrome E200? Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Re: Ektachrome E200? RE: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Re: Ektachrome E200? Re: Ektachrome E200? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 09:46:02 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: virus alert ? Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010531094450.04dc2f00@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:04 AM 05/31/2001, you wrote: >Just received a message from a buddy in Hong Kong to delete an email >attachment called > >sulfnbk.exe > >from the c:/windows/command directory, before it wipes out the hard drive on >June 1. > >Could very well be a hoax, IS A HOAX: Do not believe everything you read--even in your own e-mail box. An e-mail message is making the rounds that suggests people should delete a vital Windows file to prevent a virus from attacking their PCs on Friday. It's a hoax! If you receive such an e-mail, do NOT delete the file, which is SULFNBK.EXE. This is not a virus waiting to be activated on June 1. Rather, this file helps Windows re-create long file names if they get corrupted. The e-mail message reads: "It was brought to my attention yesterday that a virus is in circulation via e-mail. I looked for it and to my surprise I found it on mine. Please follow the directions and remove it from yours TODAY!!!!!" The message continues to say that the file slips itself into the c:/Windows/Command folder where it remains dormant until Friday when it will suddenly activate and wipe out all files and folders. NOT TRUE! The e-mail message isn't being spread across the Internet by some insidious Microsoft Outlook virus; instead, it's being spread by well- meaning friends who think they're protecting one another. If you've already been tricked by the message and deleted SULFNBK.EXE, use your Windows CD to reinstall another copy. Learn how to check this BEFORE you contribute to the spread of hoaxes. Bookmark www.sarc.com and USE IT. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 09:24:57 -0500 From: "Waldo Berry" To: Subject: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Message-ID: I have felt the same about digital. So I came to a compromise. = Financially it makes since to go digital, but only for certain types of = photography. Thus I shoot my Fuji S1 for senior, sports, dances, balls, = and small portrait packages. I shoot my hassy for large print work above = 11x14, weddings, locations, and commercial. I also use the fuji to do = test shots to check lighting and exposure in concert with my hassy. So = what do I save, about 50% of my film and processing for the year, = poliroids for my poliroid back, less hassel when only a few families buy = sports prints, faster turn around from the lab if they need it quick. = I had my doubts on resolution also, and I agree the 35mmSLR digitals are = not there. So why do it, I save my money on film and stash it away so I = can someday get a 16megapixel medium back. Now I think that will produce = a 30x40 print. I have my eye on the new Kodack DCS back. I don't = think digital will replace everything, but it will have it's place. And = in some cases your clients may come to expect it. Waldo Berry =20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:36:54 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Hasselblad Digest Subject: this week's stuff Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010531103022.04dab860@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> For all inquiries, including availability, warranty, and return policies, e-mail usedphoto@bhphotovideo.com or phone 800 606 - 6969 or 212 444-6615, ext 2700. cable hook $3.00 adj. flash holder 8+ $25.00 hand cary strap 9 $25.00 meter knob 9 $65.00 spirit level 9 $45.00 70mm back 9 $499.00 A-16 S 9 $99.00 ------------------------------------------- 202 FA demo $2516 203FE demo $4239.00 205 FC demo $5540.00 555 ELD demo $2351.00 FLEX CP demo $1829.00 ------------------------------------------- 553 ELX 9+ $1700.00 B-50 CB-3 $20.00 B-50 CB-6 $20.00 B-50CB-120 $20.00 B-50 YELLOWGREEN $20.00 ------------------------------------------ DEMOS 1.4X E $940.00 PC MUTAR 1.4X SHIFT $2299.00 80/2.8 CFE $1376.00 135/5.6 CF MACRO $1979.00 150/2.8 FE $2587.00 160/4.8 CB $1599.00 250/4 FE $2699.00 250/5.6 CFI $2416.00 250/5.6 SA $4220.00 350/4 FE $6239.00 30/3.5 CFI $4599.00 40/4 CFE $3159.00 WINDER TCC-FCW $824.00 WINDER CW $792.00 ------------------------------------------ AUTO EXT TUBE 55 9 $199 FK-30 RELEASE CORD $19.00 -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 08:50:14 -0700 From: "Daniel K. Lee" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: virus alert ? Message-ID: on 5/31/01 06:46, Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video at henryp@bhphotovideo.com wrote: > At 03:04 AM 05/31/2001, you wrote: >> Just received a message from a buddy in Hong Kong to delete an email >> attachment called >> >> sulfnbk.exe >> >> from the c:/windows/command directory, before it wipes out the hard drive on >> June 1. >> >> Could very well be a hoax, > > You delete that file and you'll be shooting yourself in the head...window's can't run without that file...you can quote me on that.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:20:53 +0100 From: "Simon Lamb" To: Subject: Re: virus alert ? Message-ID: <019e01c0e9ed$aa3e3b60$890a0a0a@phoenixdb.co.uk> Daniel Windows will start up and run without that file. There are some functions that may cause Windows to hang but the PC will definitely start and run, at least long enough to put the file back where it should be. Simon Daniel K. Lee wrote: > on 5/31/01 06:46, Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video at henryp@bhphotovideo.com > wrote: > > > At 03:04 AM 05/31/2001, you wrote: > >> Just received a message from a buddy in Hong Kong to delete an email > >> attachment called > >> > >> sulfnbk.exe > >> > >> from the c:/windows/command directory, before it wipes out the hard drive on > >> June 1. > >> > >> Could very well be a hoax, > > > > You delete that file and you'll be shooting yourself in the head...window's > can't run without that file...you can quote me on that.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:57:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Moore To: Subject: gray market lens repair Message-ID: Does Hassy (NJ USA) repair or service Hasselblad lenses (or other gear) that were not purchased through authorized US dealers? (i.e. gray market lenses for example) If not, what are the alternatives? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:14:11 -0400 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: gray market lens repair Message-ID: For general repair of camera bodies and backs, I would go to John Kovacs/Hilton Command Exposure in Nashua (NH). For lense repair, I would go to John Van Stelten/Focal Point (www.focalpointlens.com), john@focalpointlens.com. > Does Hassy (NJ USA) repair or service Hasselblad lenses (or other gear) > that were not purchased through authorized US dealers? (i.e. gray market > lenses for example) If not, what are the alternatives? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:40:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Monaghan To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: thin film base= 60 shots in 12 back? Message-ID: I was reading Freytag's Hasselblad book, and he noted in passing that some of the Hasselblads in space usage used a thin base film stock and evidently darkroom loaded film without paper backing, making it possible to get up to 60 shots using the 12 back. I'd like to have more shots on a remote telephotography (bird) 500 EL/M rig, and yet I'm not sure I want to do it badly enough to get into 70mm backs and carts and all that. Has anyone tried similar tricks to get more shots out of the older backs? Does anyone know of a listing of thinner base films? Thanks!! bobm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:33:26 +0200 From: Muecke-Janke@t-online.de (Peter Janke) To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: thin film base= 60 shots in 12 back? Message-ID: <3B16B8A6.706F81B2@t-online.de> Dear Robert, one B&W film with a thin base is the Kodak Technical Pan 6415 (Estar AH-Base). Normally color negative film has a thinner base than the base of color reversal films. I use film without paper backing in my A12 as well and have no problems with it (film 120). But films with 60 shots may cause problems with the framing?! Peter Janke Robert Monaghan schrieb: > I was reading Freytag's Hasselblad book, and he noted in passing that > some of the Hasselblads in space usage used a thin base film stock and > evidently darkroom loaded film without paper backing, making it possible > to get up to 60 shots using the 12 back. I'd like to have more shots on a > remote telephotography (bird) 500 EL/M rig, and yet I'm not sure I want to > do it badly enough to get into 70mm backs and carts and all that. > > Has anyone tried similar tricks to get more shots out of the older backs? > > Does anyone know of a listing of thinner base films? Thanks!! bobm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:21:44 -0700 From: "Frank Filippone" To: Subject: RE: thin film base 60 shots in 12 back? Message-ID: <000d01c0ea20$12eaba80$0201a8c0@Workgroup> I think the back that used the this based film was a 70/200 back.... It uses thin based film ( estar?) to hold up to 200 exposures of 70mm perf film.... but not in cassettes. The film was loaded onto special cores. Film types were reportedly specially brewed by Kodak for NASA. UV sensitive ( the 105 UV lens is from this same application), special Ektachromes, etc.. Back was sold to the public through the scientific part of Hasselblad....May still be available. They came in black and chrome finish. Frank Filippone red735i@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:46:20 EDT From: Digiratidoc@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: OT: Re: New MF Film Scanners Message-ID: <61.e7c6fea.28484dec@aol.com> In a message dated 05/05/2001 9:12:43 PM Central Daylight Time, m.sadat@verizon.net writes: << The Nikon is not available, and the main diff between the two Polaroid 120 is the extra software (silver fast that comes with the 3295). I just got one. so far my test results have been superb with 35mm film. I will try some 6x6 film later. I scanned and cropped 35mm film and then printed an 8x10 and the results were fantastic. _____________________________________ Thanks, Mehrdad >> Just wondered if Mehrdad or anyone else has scanned 6x6 or 6x7 slides or negatives with the Sprintscan 120? Any results to report, good or bad? I've been mulling over purchasing one and can't decide... Jim (sitting on the fence) Laird ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:10:03 EDT From: Digiratidoc@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Ektachrome E200? Message-ID: <67.14ce9aff.2848537b@aol.com> I've got a client who wants me to do some rather low light candid shots with MF and he wants transparencies! I wouldn't even fool with it but he's a good client and pays well. I figured since it was candid I should use 220 but the only 220 high-speed transparency film I can think of is Ektachrome E200. Anyone have experience with this film (or any other 220 high-speed emulsion)? Is it really pushable as Kodak claims? Jim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:34:59 -0700 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Ektachrome E200? Message-ID: <200106010238.TAA17688@spoon.alink.net> At 10:10 PM 5/31/01 -0400, Digiratidoc@aol.com wrote: >I've got a client who wants me to do some rather low light candid shots with >MF and he wants transparencies! I wouldn't even fool with it but he's a good >client and pays well. I figured since it was candid I should use 220 but the >only 220 high-speed transparency film I can think of is Ektachrome E200. >Anyone have experience with this film (or any other 220 high-speed emulsion)? >Is it really pushable as Kodak claims? > >Jim I've used E200 successfully up to 1000. But recently I've been using Provia 400F but unfortunately it is only available in 120. But easily pushes two stops (1600). Go to the Kodak site for E200 push information as it is not linear. http://www.kodak.com/cluster/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/e28/e2 8.shtml#44188 Jim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:24:22 -0700 From: "olenberger" To: Subject: Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Message-ID: <002e01c0ea4a$5bda8160$ab8a193f@default> Would a 16megapixel back produce an excellent 30x40 print? Has anyone tried this? 16megapixels corresponds to a 48MB file. When I want a 30x30 print from a 6x6 slide, I have a drum scan made at 4000dpi, which creates a 243MB file. The print is 300dpi, which is considered industry standard for the best quality. -Fritz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Waldo Berry" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 7:24 AM Subject: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 So why do it, I save my money on film and stash it away so I can someday get a 16megapixel medium back. Now I think that will produce a 30x40 print. Waldo Berry ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:51:43 -0400 From: "Peter Klosky" To: Subject: Re: Ektachrome E200? Message-ID: <002601c0ea4e$44c4a2e0$230a210a@dulles> Jim, I'm reading between the lines that you don't like shooting E200 in low light, but would really rather shoot something else you like. If time and money are not factors, and you have access to a lab that does decent copy work or your own copy rig, you could always shoot it on what you like, then have the prints or what have you copied onto transparencies. Myself, I shoot mostly in color neg, and produce transparencies by copy rig. My copy rig is a tripod that holds the camera over a print by reversing the tripod's center column, combined with two light bulbs at 45 angles. The bulbs are the blue copy bulbs common in the photo shops. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 10:10 PM Subject: Ektachrome E200? > I've got a client who wants me to do some rather low light candid shots with > MF and he wants transparencies! I wouldn't even fool with it but he's a good > client and pays well. I figured since it was candid I should use 220 but the > only 220 high-speed transparency film I can think of is Ektachrome E200. > Anyone have experience with this film (or any other 220 high-speed emulsion)? > Is it really pushable as Kodak claims? > > Jim > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:11:56 -0400 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Message-ID: > Would a 16megapixel back produce an excellent 30x40 print? Here's the arithmetic. 16M pixels is 4k x 4k. The 40" dimension would only be getting 100 pixels/inch output to the printer driver, so I would say the quality would be low. Typically, you need around 240+ DPI for decent output. I assume you are talking about a scanning back, not a one shot back? One comment...file size is not really relevant to resolution, but more so 'relates' to pixel depth, which corresponds to tonality... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 01:35:44 EDT From: Digiratidoc@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Ektachrome E200? Message-ID: <7d.15d72ce3.284883b0@aol.com> In a message dated 05/31/2001 9:39:25 PM Central Daylight Time, jim@brick.org writes: << I've used E200 successfully up to 1000. But recently I've been using Provia 400F but unfortunately it is only available in 120. But easily pushes two stops (1600). >> In a message dated 05/31/2001 10:07:05 PM Central Daylight Time, mark@rabiner.cncoffice.com writes: << Although the color had a flat documentary look which worked for me for this job the grain was what you'd expect for an ASA 50 film. It was certainly 4 times less grainy than the Kodachrome 200 i was used to and about the same grain as the 64. But I'd listen to Jim Bricks advice on the provira 400. Jim knows what he's talking abount on this stuff. >> Thanks for all the information, I really appreciate it. I'll load up with Provia 400 and run a test roll and see how I like it. I have used Ektachrome in the past (35mm) and found the 'flat documentary look' rather unpleasant. Regards, Jim Laird ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:36:11 -0700 From: Mark Rabiner To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Ektachrome E200? Message-ID: <3B1737DA.7C1AA492@rabiner.cncoffice.com> Digiratidoc@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 05/31/2001 9:39:25 PM Central Daylight Time, jim@brick.org > writes: > > << I've used E200 successfully up to 1000. But recently I've been using Provia > 400F but unfortunately it is only available in 120. But easily pushes two > stops (1600). >> > > In a message dated 05/31/2001 10:07:05 PM Central Daylight Time, > mark@rabiner.cncoffice.com writes: > > << Although the color had a flat documentary look which worked for me for > this job > the grain was what you'd expect for an ASA 50 film. It was certainly 4 times > less grainy than the Kodachrome 200 i was used to and about the same grain as > the 64. > But I'd listen to Jim Bricks advice on the provira 400. > Jim knows what he's talking abount on this stuff. >> > > Thanks for all the information, I really appreciate it. I'll load up with > Provia 400 and run a test roll and see how I like it. I have used Ektachrome > in the past (35mm) and found the 'flat documentary look' rather unpleasant. > > Regards, Always a shock though to see an email you sent to someone off list someone appear on list. Mark Rabiner Portland, Oregon USA http://www.rabiner.cncoffice.com/ ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #1244 ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html