hasselblad Sat, 2 Jun 2001 Volume 1 : Number 1245 In this issue: Re: virus alert ? ;-) Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 RE: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 RE: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 For sale Re: [contaxg.com] Gigabit and the G (fwd) Re: 2X extenders (redux, revisited, etc.) Re: 2X extenders (redux, revisited, etc.) WTB:104 UV f/40mm Re: [contaxg.com] Gigabit and the G (fwd) Re: 2X extenders (redux, revisited, etc.) Re: virus alert ? [OT] Re: Ektachrome E200? Re: Ektachrome E200? Re: virus alert ? [OT] Re: Ektachrome E200? Re: Ektachrome E200? Velvia 120 Re: Ektachrome E200? Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 RE: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Hand metering..... Book RE: Hand metering..... Book Re: Pro Shots Tour SV: Ektachrome E200? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:33:38 +0200 (CEST) From: bigler@ens2m.fr To: Rod Leavitt Subject: Re: virus alert ? ;-) Message-ID: <200106010834.f518Y9q05548@belenos.ens2m.fr> > ...DO NOT DELETE THIS FILE.... IF YOU DID... Ahemm. what do you mean by "a virus"? , , / \ ((__-^^-,-^^-__)) `-_---' `---_-' `--|o` 'o|--' \ ` / ): :( :o_o: "-" -- Emma-Gnu-el BIGLER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 08:16:53 -0400 From: "Eugene A. Pallat" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Message-ID: <3B1787B5.BEA330E9@apk.net> olenberger wrote: > Would a 16megapixel back produce an excellent 30x40 print? Has anyone tried > this? 16megapixels corresponds to a 48MB file. When I want a 30x30 print > from a 6x6 slide, I have a drum scan made at 4000dpi, which creates a 243MB > file. The print is 300dpi, which is considered industry standard for the > best quality. I would disagree with the term "best". Look at photos done on a laser printer and the difference between 300 and 600 dpi is striling. Gene Pallat Orion Forensics Orion Data Systems ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:53:38 +0200 From: Michael Buchstaller To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Message-ID: >I would disagree with the term "best". Look at photos done on a laser = printer and the difference between 300 and 600 dpi is striling. Hmm..... Yes, but i assume you are talking ybout b/w laser printers. Those ones cannot display grey halttones, so they have to achieve that look by dithering. But this reduces the image resolution drastically. So, the printer may = physically be able to print 600 or even 1200 dpi, but when they have to be arranged = to chunks of 16 or 64 pixels to create gray scales, the effective resolution drops by = that factor. Color printers, however, are another story. Sometimes i let computer = graphics print out by a print shop, in a size of 70 by 100 cm. Resolution is 200 = dpi (i send them an 300 MB file for that), and at a normal viewing distance of more tham 1= m, it looks good. -Michael Buchstaller ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:08:31 -0400 From: "LEO WOLK" To: Subject: Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital Message-ID: <01c0ea9b$f50bde00$5665570c@fofyplfq> Hmmm, This sounds a bit like what "car guys" call a 25mph paint job! The car looks GREAT going down the road at 25mph, but up close...well, that's another story! Best Wishes, Leo. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Buchstaller To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Date: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:55 AM Subject: Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 >... and at a normal viewing distance of more tham 1 m, it looks good. -Michael Buchstaller ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:10:22 -0400 From: "Eugene A. Pallat" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Message-ID: <3B17943E.3529F2E0@apk.net> Michael Buchstaller wrote: > Color printers, however, are another story. Sometimes i let computer graphics > print out by a print shop, in a size of 70 by 100 cm. Resolution is 200 dpi (i send them > an 300 MB file for that), and at a normal viewing distance of more tham 1 m, it looks good. Anything looks better the further away it is. However, the standard for the "normal" viewing distance is 15 inches (38 cm) whether for photographs or printed material. This is especially true when using photographs in a courtroom for evidence. That's why a late friend always used a 3 inch lens for his 4x5. It meant 20x24 inch prints were required for propper perspective. He also admitted he could charge more money that way! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:48:58 +0200 From: "Eduard Crombie" To: Subject: RE: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Message-ID: > > Would a 16megapixel back produce an excellent 30x40 print? > > Here's the arithmetic. 16M pixels is 4k x 4k. The 40" > dimension would only be getting 100 pixels/inch output to > the printer driver, so I would say the quality would be low. > Typically, you need around 240+ DPI for decent output. Hello Austin, I was hoping Fritz would have replied already to this, but he probably has other occupations. I was wondering if he was talking about 30x40cm prints or 30x40inch prints, especially when he mentioned the 30x30 (inch or cm) format. That would produce a different view on 'excellency' aspects of prints derived from the source he mentioned. Or would this be irrelevant ? Eduard, Belgium. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:58:13 -0400 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Message-ID: > > > Would a 16megapixel back produce an excellent 30x40 print? > > > > Here's the arithmetic. 16M pixels is 4k x 4k. The 40" > > dimension would only be getting 100 pixels/inch output to > > the printer driver, so I would say the quality would be low. > > Typically, you need around 240+ DPI for decent output. > > Hello Austin, > > I was hoping Fritz would have replied already to this, but he probably > has other occupations. > I was wondering if he was talking about 30x40cm prints or 30x40inch > prints, especially when he mentioned the 30x30 (inch or cm) format. > That would produce a different view on 'excellency' aspects of prints > derived from the source he mentioned. Or would this be irrelevant ? > > Eduard, Belgium. If cm was meant, I am sure the images would be excellent! That would be 4k x 4k for an 11.8" x 11.8" output...that's 339 pixels/inch output to the printer driver. Interesting that I assumed inches...I'm sorry I didn't notice that a unit wasn't mentioned! Thanks for pointing that out! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:00:07 -0700 From: bfranson@greennet.net (Bill Franson) To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: For sale Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010601100007.007f5220@mail.greennet.net> For Sale: Hasselblad Lens Mounting Ring 67mm (for connecting 50mm C lens to previous collapsible Proshade) $37 Knob winder for 500c $? Filters: B+W 67mm 061 (green) $22 B+W 67mm 081 (medium blue) $22 Hoya 67mm Polarizer $30 Tiffen 67mm ND 0.9 $10 Tiffen 67mm ND 0.6 $10 Tiffen 67mm 80a $10 Leica M3 Every Ready case $25 Bill Franson 978.463.8100 http://www.bfranson.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:24:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Shane W Davis To: Subject: Re: [contaxg.com] Gigabit and the G (fwd) Message-ID: You may find this new film interesting, if you haven't read about it before. Site is in German. /sd The other Gigabit film page at: http://www.2pics.de/2pics/drf/gigabitfilm.htm is also a good place to start. >I found an article on the film where the guy tests the film >with Contax G optics: > >http://www.2pics.de/2pics/drf/gbft2.htm > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:29:36 EDT From: PeteScherm@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: 2X extenders (redux, revisited, etc.) Message-ID: <17.16a3a9d5.284900d0@aol.com> OK, All, I'm getting buried by all of the advice on how to remove (intact) the optics from my Komura 2X converter, in order to transform this redundant accessory into a sterling extension tube. But seriously, has anyone tried this? Are there evil spirits awaiting inside to spoil my endeavors? Will it even work, assuming I can get the unneeded innards removed? (The "innards" will somehow go into a future project - Holga close-up lens, anyone?). Any advice would be helpful. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 07:51:46 -0700 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: 2X extenders (redux, revisited, etc.) Message-ID: <4.1.20010601075116.050e19a0@xsj02.sjs.agilent.com> At 10:29 AM 6/1/01 -0400, PeteScherm@aol.com wrote: >OK, All, > >I'm getting buried by all of the advice on how to remove (intact) the optics >from my Komura 2X converter, in order to transform this redundant accessory >into a sterling extension tube. But seriously, has anyone tried this? Are >there evil spirits awaiting inside to spoil my endeavors? Will it even work, >assuming I can get the unneeded innards removed? (The "innards" will somehow >go into a future project - Holga close-up lens, anyone?). Any advice would >be helpful. > >Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts When all else fails, get a bigger hammer... ;) Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 11:06:12 -0400 From: gene360@erols.com To: "hasselblad@kelvin.net" Subject: WTB:104 UV f/40mm Message-ID: <3B17AF64.2C82487D@erols.com> Looking to replace a 104 UV filter for the above 8.5+ or higher condition. Contact me off list @ gene360@erols.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 08:12:26 -0700 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net, Subject: Re: [contaxg.com] Gigabit and the G (fwd) Message-ID: <4.1.20010601080440.0215bf00@xsj02.sjs.agilent.com> At 10:24 AM 6/1/01 -0400, Shane W Davis wrote: >You may find this new film interesting, if you haven't read about it >before. Site is in German. /sd > > >The other Gigabit film page at: >http://www.2pics.de/2pics/drf/gigabitfilm.htm is also a good place to start. > >>I found an article on the film where the guy tests the film >>with Contax G optics: >> >>http://www.2pics.de/2pics/drf/gbft2.htm >> The reason this isn't making a big splash is that it is ordinary document film, been around for quite awhile, developed in a weak developer. Exactly how Kodak Tech Pan works. And Kodak Tech Pan, well known to the photo world, produces basically equal results. Basically... this is no big deal. Independent tests (those NOT run by the manufacturer) show that for anything less than heroic photographic measures, Tech Pan is totally as good. And easier to get, easier to process, etc... Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 08:13:33 -0700 From: Jim Stewart To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: 2X extenders (redux, revisited, etc.) Message-ID: <3B17B11D.D91288F2@jkmicro.com> PeteScherm@aol.com wrote: > > OK, All, It's easy to take out the optics. I did it on mine by first removing the male mounting flange from the rear. It's held on with about 8 tiny philips head screws. Be careful as some of them have a bigger diameter than others. Carefully lift out the flange, watching the cocking spring disengage. To get the optics out, turn the extender over and scrape away the black paint and sealer from the 3 wide recessed flat head screws. Using a screwdriver that fits, carefully remove the screws. I had to work them out gently by alternately loosening and tightning them about 1/8 of a turn at a time. The optics should now drop out. This is as far as I got. I can't seem to get the cocking mechanism to line up right and the cocking spring has to be modified to rest against the tube instead of the optics assembly. I'll let you know if I make any more progress. > > I'm getting buried by all of the advice on how to remove (intact) the optics > from my Komura 2X converter, in order to transform this redundant accessory > into a sterling extension tube. But seriously, has anyone tried this? Are > there evil spirits awaiting inside to spoil my endeavors? Will it even work, > assuming I can get the unneeded innards removed? (The "innards" will somehow > go into a future project - Holga close-up lens, anyone?). Any advice would > be helpful. > > Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:07:43 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: virus alert ? [OT] Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010601120635.0513f940@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:06 AM 06/01/2001, Daniel K. Lee wrote: >on 5/31/01 06:46, Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video at henryp@bhphotovideo.com >wrote: > > > At 03:04 AM 05/31/2001, you wrote: > >> Just received a message from a buddy in Hong Kong to delete an email > >> attachment called > >> > >> sulfnbk.exe > >> > >> from the c:/windows/command directory, before it wipes out the hard > drive on > >> June 1. > >> > >> Could very well be a hoax, > > > You delete that file and you'll be shooting yourself in the head...window's >can't run without that file...you can quote me on that.... Just to be clear, the stuff quoted above under my name was NOT written by me. It was stuff I was quoting before my reply. We need to be careful to get our attributions straight. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:38:26 -0400 From: Anne Bellenger To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Ektachrome E200? Message-ID: <3B17C4FA.99F19926@strato.net> I've used E200 only in 35mm format and found it to be inferior to Fuji Velvia. Colors in E200 don't seem as saturated as Velvia, and that is only for macro flower shots. In the Hassie EL/M I use Fuji NPS 120, Professional 160, color negative. It's adequate for nature shots, like landscapes. I wish Fuji would make Velvia in 120 size. Anne B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:24:51 -0700 From: Jim Brick To: cyclist2@strato.net, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Ektachrome E200? Message-ID: <4.1.20010601102300.050f54d0@xsj02.sjs.agilent.com> At 12:38 PM 6/1/01 -0400, Anne Bellenger wrote: >I've used E200 only in 35mm format and found it to be inferior to Fuji >Velvia. Colors in E200 don't seem as saturated as Velvia, and that is >only for macro flower shots. In the Hassie EL/M I use Fuji NPS 120, >Professional 160, color negative. It's adequate for nature shots, like >landscapes. I wish Fuji would make Velvia in 120 size. > >Anne B. Velvia and E200 are at different ends. Velvia ASA 50 (best at 40), E200 at ASA 200, best at 360. They cannot be compared. Velvia is available in both 120 and 220. I use both. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:27:10 EDT From: BobR38@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: virus alert ? [OT] Message-ID: <4d.c6daaf6.28492a6e@aol.com> --part1_4d.c6daaf6.28492a6e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Henry, I saw that and knew it wasn't you because I knew the source....but wondered why your name appeared on the sent from. Bob R. --part1_4d.c6daaf6.28492a6e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Henry,
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But easily pushes two > stops (1600). >> > > In a message dated 05/31/2001 10:07:05 PM Central Daylight Time, > mark@rabiner.cncoffice.com writes: > > << Although the color had a flat documentary look which worked for me for > this job > the grain was what you'd expect for an ASA 50 film. It was certainly 4 times > less grainy than the Kodachrome 200 i was used to and about the same grain as > the 64. > But I'd listen to Jim Bricks advice on the provira 400. > Jim knows what he's talking abount on this stuff. >> > > Thanks for all the information, I really appreciate it. I'll load up with > Provia 400 and run a test roll and see how I like it. I have used Ektachrome > in the past (35mm) and found the 'flat documentary look' rather unpleasant. > > Regards, > > Jim Laird > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:53:32 EDT From: QWhoZeiss@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Ektachrome E200? Message-ID: <9f.1634ed56.28494cbc@aol.com> Why 220?--Try Afga RSX200 it pushed 3-stops and it great! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:37:30 -0300 From: "Eduardo Aigner" To: , Subject: Velvia 120 Message-ID: <01b701c0eaf5$d46d64c0$b60eb0c8@ig> >I wish Fuji would make Velvia in 120 size. > > Anne B. They do! It is too much satured for my needs, but it is really a grain free film. AIGNER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:17:03 EDT From: Digiratidoc@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Ektachrome E200? Message-ID: <9a.152cf8bd.28498a7f@aol.com> Anyone using Ektachrome 400X? I've heard it's more saturated that E200. Regards, Jim Laird ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:46:59 -0700 From: "olenberger" To: Subject: Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Message-ID: <007901c0eb05$ebb5d4e0$89a91f3f@default> I'm sorry I confused people by omitting the units. What I meant was scanning a 6cm by 6cm transparency and producing a 30" by 30" print. Also as a matter of clarification, when I referred to 300dpi as being sort of an industry standard for good quality, I was referring to continuous-tone printers such as dye sublimation printers, or silver halide digital printers (such as the Chromira machine used by Color Services in Santa Barbara). I was not referring to inkjet printers, and I just don't know much about laser printers. The 30"x30" prints I get from the Chromira look quite sharp at any distance. A good drum scanner (and now the Olympus 120 scanner, for about $3000 US) can scan at 4000dpi, which means that you can make a 30"x30" print from a 6cm x 6 cm transparency with a 300 DPI output. If you enlarge beyond 30"x30", you will have to print at a lower DPI, with increasing loss in quality. I don't know of a scanner that does better than 4000dpi, but then I'm not an expert at this. I suspect that much beyond 4000dpi, other things would limit sharpness, such a film grain, lens resolution, film flatness, etc. -Fritz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Austin Franklin" To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:58 AM Subject: RE: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 > > > > Would a 16megapixel back produce an excellent 30x40 print? > > > > > > Here's the arithmetic. 16M pixels is 4k x 4k. The 40" > > > dimension would only be getting 100 pixels/inch output to > > > the printer driver, so I would say the quality would be low. > > > Typically, you need around 240+ DPI for decent output. > > > > Hello Austin, > > > > I was hoping Fritz would have replied already to this, but he probably > > has other occupations. > > I was wondering if he was talking about 30x40cm prints or 30x40inch > > prints, especially when he mentioned the 30x30 (inch or cm) format. > > That would produce a different view on 'excellency' aspects of prints > > derived from the source he mentioned. Or would this be irrelevant ? > > > > Eduard, Belgium. > > If cm was meant, I am sure the images would be excellent! That would be 4k > x 4k for an 11.8" x 11.8" output...that's 339 pixels/inch output to the > printer driver. > > Interesting that I assumed inches...I'm sorry I didn't notice that a unit > wasn't mentioned! Thanks for pointing that out! > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:57:47 -0400 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Message-ID: > I don't know of a scanner that does better than > 4000dpi, Most drum scanners are, 4000 is the low end for drums. Also, the Leafscan can do 5080 (2:1 optical magnification) for 35mm, but scans MF at 2540 (1:1 optical magnification), it's a CCD scanner with a 6k element CCD. But anyways, this was your original question, I thought: > > > > > Would a 16megapixel back produce an excellent 30x40 print? > > > > > > > > Here's the arithmetic. 16M pixels is 4k x 4k. The 40" > > > > dimension would only be getting 100 pixels/inch output to > > > > the printer driver, so I would say the quality would be low. > > > > Typically, you need around 240+ DPI for decent output. Is that the answer you were looking for? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:03:51 -0700 From: "olenberger" To: Subject: Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Message-ID: <001601c0eb08$46fb1660$e7a91f3f@default> Oops, I meant the Polaroid Sprintscan 120; it's not an Olympus product. -Fritz ----- Original Message ----- From: "olenberger" To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:46 PM Subject: Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 > I'm sorry I confused people by omitting the units. What I meant was > scanning a 6cm by 6cm transparency and producing a 30" by 30" print. > Also as a matter of clarification, when I referred to 300dpi as being > sort of an industry standard for good quality, I was referring to > continuous-tone printers such as dye sublimation printers, or silver halide > digital printers (such as the Chromira machine used by Color Services in > Santa Barbara). I was not referring to inkjet printers, and I just don't > know much about laser printers. > The 30"x30" prints I get from the Chromira look quite sharp at any > distance. > A good drum scanner (and now the Olympus 120 scanner, for about $3000 > US) can scan at 4000dpi, which means that you can make a 30"x30" print from > a 6cm x 6 cm transparency with a 300 DPI output. If you enlarge beyond > 30"x30", you will have to print at a lower DPI, with increasing loss in > quality. I don't know of a scanner that does better than 4000dpi, but then > I'm not an expert at this. I suspect that much beyond 4000dpi, other things > would limit sharpness, such a film grain, lens resolution, film flatness, > etc. > -Fritz > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:06:07 -0700 From: "olenberger" To: Subject: Re: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 Message-ID: <001d01c0eb08$972f5060$e7a91f3f@default> Yes, that's the answer in a nutshell. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Austin Franklin" To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:57 PM Subject: RE: Trading Hasselblad for Digital - Was: RE: hasselblad V1 #1237 > > I don't know of a scanner that does better than > > 4000dpi, > > Most drum scanners are, 4000 is the low end for drums. Also, the Leafscan > can do 5080 (2:1 optical magnification) for 35mm, but scans MF at 2540 (1:1 > optical magnification), it's a CCD scanner with a 6k element CCD. > > But anyways, this was your original question, I thought: > > > > > > > Would a 16megapixel back produce an excellent 30x40 print? > > > > > > > > > > Here's the arithmetic. 16M pixels is 4k x 4k. The 40" > > > > > dimension would only be getting 100 pixels/inch output to > > > > > the printer driver, so I would say the quality would be low. > > > > > Typically, you need around 240+ DPI for decent output. > > Is that the answer you were looking for? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 22:17:13 -0500 From: Bradley Martin To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Hand metering..... Book Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010601221533.00abaa10@pop.ipa.net> A while back some one mentioned a book on hand metering. Can someone tell me the title and author? Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:57:06 -0700 From: "bradley hanson" To: Subject: RE: Hand metering..... Book Message-ID: Hi Bradley- That might have been me. Great book, aside from some overt Sekonic plugs. It's called the Hand Meter Exposure Book. It's written by Jim Zuckerman, Bob Shell and Martin Silverman. You can find it via Mamiya's website, or at a local photo shop. b r a d l e y h a n s o n Seattle, WA http://www.hansonphotography.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Bradley Martin [mailto:bmartin@ArkansasRealtor.cc] > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:17 PM > To: hasselblad@kelvin.net > Subject: Hand metering..... Book > > > A while back some one mentioned a book on hand metering. Can someone tell > me the title and author? > > Thanks > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of > Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its > content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor > Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. > Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: > http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at > http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 02:04:12 EDT From: BLADHASS@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Pro Shots Tour Message-ID: --part1_f3.b020a0a.2849dbdc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody on the newsgroup been to the ProShots Tour. I just saw one in Seattle, wow they have some great things going on. If you are a wedding or portrait photographer you need to get on the ProShots band wagon. Peter Peterson --part1_f3.b020a0a.2849dbdc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody on the newsgroup been to the ProShots Tour. I just saw one in
Seattle, wow they have some great things going on. If you are a wedding or
portrait photographer you need to get on the ProShots band wagon.
Peter Peterson --part1_f3.b020a0a.2849dbdc_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:25:52 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?ULF_SJ=D6GREN?= To: , Subject: SV: Ektachrome E200? Message-ID: <000b01c0eb2c$e003aec0$6e8997d4@s101194> ????????? Velvia in 120 seize???? I have about 60 rolls of that right = now in my fridge, some 2 -3 thousand mounted 6x6 slides Velvia. Either = your wishes have come through or have I misunderstood something...... Kindest regards=20 Ulf ----- Ursprungligt meddelande -----=20 Fr=E5n: "Anne Bellenger" Till: Skickat: den 1 juni 2001 18:38 =C4mne: Re: Ektachrome E200? > I've used E200 only in 35mm format and found it to be inferior to Fuji > Velvia. Colors in E200 don't seem as saturated as Velvia, and that is > only for macro flower shots. In the Hassie EL/M I use Fuji NPS 120, > Professional 160, color negative. It's adequate for nature shots, like > landscapes. I wish Fuji would make Velvia in 120 size. >=20 > Anne B. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute = Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing = list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's = subsidiaries, or affiliates. >=20 > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. = Use text mode only. >=20 > To change your subscription status, go to: = http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at = http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at = http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #1245 ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html