hasselblad Sun, 10 Jun 2001 Volume 1 : Number 1253 In this issue: Re: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? RE: hasselblad V1 #1252 Re: custom screens Re: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? HP5+ help needed Need HP5+ help RE: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? Re: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? Re: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? Re: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? my dealer contacts ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 06:21:39 -0700 From: "Roger Beamon" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? Message-ID: <3B21C073.4852.1EF007@localhost> You can bet your sweet bippy that it was the U.S. dealers that put the screws to Hasselblad to put a stop to Cayman's mail order sales! Is Cayman restricted from mail ordering anywhere else or just the U.S.? Seems like a restraint of trade situation to me. Can U.S. dealers mail order to Cayman (not that anyone on Cayman would buy from the U.S.). I'd like to hear Henry's views on this. I suspect that I know them already. This whole arrangement is nothing more than price fixing, pure and simple. Another arrow removed from your quiver of free trade. -- Roger On 9 Jun 2001, BLADHASS@aol.com wrote, at least in part: > Yes, Hasselblad did put the screws to Cayman Camera. Why pay 30% > more just for some American marketing? We Hasselblad users do not > need to the classes, workshops, etc. Just keep making a great > product and get away from raising the prices 2-3 times a year. How > would you work a deal if my friend can get the good price for you. > Peter Peterson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 06:40:12 -0700 From: John Oppenheimer To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE: hasselblad V1 #1252 Message-ID: I have been getting two emails daily to two addresses, but I only need one, please discontinue johnoppy@pacbell.net and continue john@bordercrossings.net Thank you. John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:05:29 +1000 From: paul barbera To: Subject: Re: custom screens Message-ID: UNSCRIBE MY E-MAIL ADRESS FROM UR LIST PLEASE ------------------------------------ paul barbera photography 490 swan st richmond 3121 melbourne australia australian studio : +61 03 9427 9898 australian cel : +61 412 44 11 70 sydney agent Mari Vendrame : +61 02 9360 0911 singapore agent Stone camera : +65 222 0015 singapore cel : +65 98 530 144 http://www.ozemail.com.au/~barbera http://www.aaaphotos.com (stock library) > From: "Peter Klosky" > Reply-To: hasselblad@kelvin.net > Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:51:54 -0400 > To: > Subject: Re: custom screens > > Fine line 1/64" black newspaper/ad layout tape for drafting is good for > marking a screen, and can be removed/repositioned as needed. A classic with > a 6 x 6 rig is to put 8 x 10 and 5 x 7 marks on the screen. > > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Moore" > To: > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 9:33 AM > Subject: Re: custom screens > > >> >>> Does anyone know of people that can customize Hasselblad focusing >>> screens, with custom markings? >> >> Check with Bill Maxwell (Maxwell Precision Optics, 404-244-0095). I'm >> not sure how "custom" he gets but his screen have some options for >> markings such as grids. At the very least he might be able to point you >> to someone else. >> >> If you don't mind the risk, maybe you could carefully scratch your desired >> markings into the screen yourself. >> >> --Andrew >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute > Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list > is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or > affiliates. >> >> Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use > text mode only. >> >> To change your subscription status, go to: > http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad >> Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm >> Searchable archives can be found at > http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, > Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no > way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text > mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: > http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 13:15:41 EDT From: BLADHASS@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? Message-ID: <7b.15f55c49.2853b3bd@aol.com> --part1_7b.15f55c49.2853b3bd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/9/01 6:22:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, roger@beamon.org writes: > You can bet your sweet bippy that it was the U.S. dealers that put > the screws to Hasselblad to put a stop to Cayman's mail order > sales! > > Is Cayman restricted from mail ordering anywhere else or just > the U.S.? Seems like a restraint of trade situation to me. Can U.S. > dealers mail order to Cayman (not that anyone on Cayman would > buy from the U.S.). I'd like to hear Henry's views on this. I > suspect that I know them already. > > This whole arrangement is nothing more than price fixing, pure > and simple. Another arrow removed from your quiver of free > trade. > > -- > Roger > If Cayman can sell a 503CW body for $1350 and US dealers sell the body for over $2000, someone is making good money. I know places like Delta International have the lower price, but for how long. I love my Hasselblads, but can they justify raising the price's over and over. I have had a need for a 220 645 back the A32, they sell for $1001. One Thousand Dollars for a back that just holds one roll of film. For that price it should feature the ability to hold and automatically load at least a ProPack of film. Peter Peterson --part1_7b.15f55c49.2853b3bd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/9/01 6:22:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, roger@beamon.org
writes:


You can bet your sweet bippy that it was the U.S. dealers that put
the screws to Hasselblad to put a stop to Cayman's mail order
sales!

Is Cayman restricted from mail ordering anywhere else or just
the U.S.? Seems like a restraint of trade situation to me. Can U.S.
dealers mail order to Cayman (not that anyone on Cayman would
buy from the U.S.). I'd like to hear Henry's views on this. I
suspect that I know them already.

This whole arrangement is nothing more than price fixing, pure
and simple. Another arrow removed from your quiver of free
trade.

--
Roger


If Cayman can sell a 503CW body for $1350 and US dealers sell the body for
over $2000, someone is making good money. I know places like Delta
International have the lower price, but for how long. I love my Hasselblads,
but can they justify raising the price's over and over. I have had a need for
a 220 645 back the A32, they sell for $1001. One Thousand Dollars for a back
that just holds one roll of film. For that price it should feature the
ability to hold and automatically load at least a ProPack of film.
Peter Peterson --part1_7b.15f55c49.2853b3bd_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 13:20:57 EDT From: ShadCat11@aol.com To: bradley.hanson@home.com, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: HP5+ help needed Message-ID: <5b.172a9498.2853b4f9@aol.com> I just started experimenting with HP5+ in 220 because I need an ISO 400 b&w film in that format. I don't care for TXP tonality, Ilford discontinued 400 Delta in 220 and I know of no others. It could help point me right to find out how others use, process and think about this combo. If you have been there, please respond. Thanx Allen Zak ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 13:47:33 EDT From: ShadCat11@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Need HP5+ help Message-ID: I just started experimenting with HP5+ in 220 because I need an ISO 400 b&w film in that format. I don't care for TXP tonality, Ilford discontinued 400 Delta in 220 and I know of no others. It could help point me right to find out how others use, process and think about this product. These days I use Xtol developer, but other suggestions will be considered. If you have been there, please respond. Thanx Allen Zak ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 11:40:47 -0700 From: "Mehrdad Sadat" To: "George Hartzell" , Subject: RE: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C0F0D9.06DBA000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can recommend two source in in hk and one in us that can give even better prices than cayman camera. contact me off list if you are interested _____________________________________ Thanks, Mehrdad ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C0F0D9.06DBA000 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment Reply-To: "George Hartzell" , From: "George Hartzell" To: "Hasselblad Users Group" Subject: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:31:24 -0700 Message-ID: <200106082131.f58LVOY03902@kestrel.alerce.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 I'm looking for a happy Cayman Camera customer in the San Francisco Bay Area. Anyone out there? g. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C0F0D9.06DBA000-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 13:02:40 -0700 From: Mark Rabiner To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? Message-ID: <3B2280DF.68F29CB8@rabiner.cncoffice.com> > If Cayman can sell a 503CW body for $1350 and US dealers sell the body = for=20 > over $2000, someone is making good money. I know places like Delta=20 > International have the lower price, but for how long. I love my Hasselb= lads,=20 > but can they justify raising the price's over and over. I have had a ne= ed for=20 > a 220 645 back the A32, they sell for $1001. One Thousand Dollars for a= back=20 > that just holds one roll of film. For that price it should feature the=20 > ability to hold and automatically load at least a ProPack of film. > Peter Peterson The was the FE was lowered by so much money indicates some of this. Hasselblad would seem to want to recover their R&D with the sale of it's = first 5 units. Now perhaps they are on the new tack of trying to sell come cameras. I've got a feeling they've lost some market share and are trying to win i= t back. The Contax 645 is an impressive system many are thinking. And buying... And Rollei seems back on its feet again having gotten rid of it's ridicul= ous hold from that Korean Helicopter company which squandered it for the last= few years=85 Mark Rabiner Portland, Oregon USA http://www.rabiner.cncoffice.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 15:06:38 -0500 From: "dro239" To: , Subject: Re: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? Message-ID: <001201c0f11f$b1ca01a0$233188cf@ducelightning> Only as long as people are stupid enough to pay these prices! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Rabiner" To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 3:02 PM Subject: Re: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? > If Cayman can sell a 503CW body for $1350 and US dealers sell the body for > over $2000, someone is making good money. I know places like Delta > International have the lower price, but for how long. I love my Hasselblads, > but can they justify raising the price's over and over. I have had a need for > a 220 645 back the A32, they sell for $1001. One Thousand Dollars for a back > that just holds one roll of film. For that price it should feature the > ability to hold and automatically load at least a ProPack of film. > Peter Peterson The was the FE was lowered by so much money indicates some of this. Hasselblad would seem to want to recover their R&D with the sale of it's first 5 units. Now perhaps they are on the new tack of trying to sell come cameras. I've got a feeling they've lost some market share and are trying to win it back. The Contax 645 is an impressive system many are thinking. And buying... And Rollei seems back on its feet again having gotten rid of it's ridiculous hold from that Korean Helicopter company which squandered it for the last few years. Mark Rabiner Portland, Oregon USA http://www.rabiner.cncoffice.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 20:02:31 -0400 From: Marc James Small To: mark@rabiner.cncoffice.com Cc: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010609200231.00fcaac0@pop.infi-net.mindspring.com> At 01:02 PM 6/9/2001 -0700, Mark Rabiner wrote: >And Rollei seems back on its feet again having gotten rid of it's= ridiculous >hold from that Korean Helicopter company which squandered it for the last few years=85 Isn't Rollei that late-comer company, the one which has tried to copy Hasselblad for all these years? (Hint: my 2.8GX went to Ireland, NOT my 2000FCM!) Marc msmall@roanoke.infi.net FAX: +540/343-7315 Cha robh bas fir gun ghras fir! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 18:10:02 -0700 From: "Mehrdad Sadat" To: Subject: my dealer contacts Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01C0F10F.66FDDAD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought only one person was interested in my contacts but looks like there are many so I will post them on the list. The first was is poon, I have been dealing with him for almost two years and I bought all my Hass equipment from him (203,250,110,150,50,903swc) and most of my Leica m6 stuff. He is very trust worthy. he sells regularly on ebay, his ebay id is etefore. also if u live in the us, items will arrive @ your door via us mail express and there is no duty tax. his email address is etefore@netvigator.com. I usually email him with what I want and emails the price, we negotiate a little (if i think there is room) and then i wire the agreed amount. about 4-5 days later, everything shows up @ my door. if you decide to work with him, please let him know I referred him to you. his ebay items are http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&us erid=etefore&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25 The second one is Tony rose. Tony use to be the supervisor in the Bel Air camera store in westwood, CA. He is very nice and knowledgeable now he is on his own and sells on ebay and his clientele. Last I talked to him, he was liquation an state sale with tons of new hass and other stuff. He also has access to far east and matter of fact I ordered a leica m6 from him. his email address is asa100@gte.net. once again if you deicide to work him, let him know i referred you. his ebay listing http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=meleica&inc lude=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25 I am referring both of these people because i want both of them to prosper and for you all to get more for your money. _____________________________________ Thanks, Mehrdad ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01C0F10F.66FDDAD0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment Reply-To: From: "Mehrdad Sadat" To: "George Hartzell" , Subject: RE: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 11:40:47 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008D_01C0F10F.66FDDAD0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <200106082131.f58LVOY03902@kestrel.alerce.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C0F10F.66FDDAD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can recommend two source in in hk and one in us that can give even better prices than cayman camera. contact me off list if you are interested _____________________________________ Thanks, Mehrdad ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C0F10F.66FDDAD0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment Reply-To: "George Hartzell" , From: "George Hartzell" To: "Hasselblad Users Group" Subject: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:31:24 -0700 Message-ID: <200106082131.f58LVOY03902@kestrel.alerce.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 I'm looking for a happy Cayman Camera customer in the San Francisco Bay Area. Anyone out there? g. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. 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