hasselblad Tue, 12 Jun 2001 Volume 1 : Number 1255 In this issue: RE: ringflash Profoto Acute ringlight Re: Brightscreen vs. hasselblad acute matte Re: hassie screens Re: happy Cayman Camera Digital camera for Hasselblad owners RE: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Re: Need HP5+ help RE: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Re: happy Cayman Camera Re: Brightscreen vs. hasselblad acute matte RE: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay ar ea? Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Re: Need HP5+ help RE: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners RE: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Flash Sync on CF and CFI lenses Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Re: happy Cayman Camera Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:42:31 +0200 From: "Eduard Crombie" To: Subject: RE: ringflash Message-ID: > From: helenadick@worldnet.att.net [mailto:helenadick@worldnet.att.net] > > Eduard Crombie wrote: > > > > > From: gef [mailto:gerard@gferry.freeserve.co.uk] > > > > > > i have a 51489 ringlight. does anyone know anything about it > > > and can i get a power pack its 3 pin! > > > best regards > > > gef > > > > Hallo Gerard, > > This ringlite is a favorite among the glamour fashion photographers. > What they do is have the lite wired into the Norman 200 battery pack. > Norman does this all the time. It gives extremely nice lighting for > glamour-fashion. > Dick Werner Gerard, as you are in the UK, here is the official dealer for Norman equipment. They will be able to give you info and price. CALUMET PHOTOGRAPHIC LTD. Promandis House, Bradbourne Dr. Tilbrook, Milton Keynes MK7 8AJ, ENGLAND 44-1908-366344 Dick, Yes I've seen the 'trend' in the glossy magazines lately. I've only used 35mm ringflash for imaging printed circuit boards, jewellery, medical subjects. The lighting is extremely 'flat', shadowless - that's good for the technical stuff. But when it comes to capturing the 'structures' of a beautiful woman, I prefer a more 'modulated' set-up with shadows and highlights :-) Once I saw a documentary, where they improvised a sort of ringlight, using 3 or 4 Broncolor heads, bounced into a giant homebuilt aluminium reflector sitting around the lens. The camera looked like a RB67. They were using this set-up to photograph prize cows and bulls on location. Kind regards to you both, Eduard, Belgium. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:36:10 EDT From: DvanAckere@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Profoto Acute ringlight Message-ID: Thanks to all who provide info to this group. I'm interested in any info on adapting a Profoto Acute ring flach to a Norman P1212 pack. Are there high-voltage tube vs. low-voltage tube issues? Any recommendations for a good electronics shop to do this. Am I better off with the hassy ring light? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:17:20 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: Brightscreen vs. hasselblad acute matte Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010611101630.0516e240@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:18 AM 06/09/2001, you wrote: >Can anyone compare between the two screens? >Which is higher quality and brightness? The trouble with too much brightness is that it comes at the expense of contrast, which the human eye relies on for focusing. IMHO the 'blad screens are #1. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:26:24 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: hassie screens Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010611102607.0516fce0@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:18 AM 06/09/2001, you wrote: >Anyone know of any acute matte hassie screens divided into thirds? Not thirds, but both Hassy & Beattie offer grid screens. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:31:32 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: happy Cayman Camera Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010611102833.0514cd40@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:19 AM 06/10/2001, you wrote: >Is Cayman restricted from mail ordering anywhere else or just >the U.S.? Seems like a restraint of trade situation to me. Can U.S. >dealers mail order to Cayman (not that anyone on Cayman would >buy from the U.S.). I'd like to hear Henry's views on this. I >suspect that I know them already. Here's EVERYTHING I KNOW about this particular subject. (Gentlemen, start your thimbles). B&H doesn't sell "grey market" Hasselblad. Ethically & morally, we (of course) have no difficulty with the concept of "grey market," we just don't have any in Hassy stuff (nor in Leica or Contax). We did not "tell on" Cayman Camera or complain to Hasselblad USA about them. The only time we complain about another retailer is when another USA retailer violates an MAP agreement we're sticking to. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:41:09 -0000 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: Hello Henry, Could you please recommend a "second camera" for experimenting with the digital media? As a Hasselblad owner, image quality is of the essence, but as a (presently) non-professional, I have a limited budget (<$1501.00) for this "second camera". Under these (severe constraints), what would you recommend as a "get your feet wet in digital photography? Have you heard of any "over the horizon in the next 3 or 4 months new model coming out with lower price, better performance, blah.... ? My Hasselblad work is 95% B&W, I am looking to digital so that I can exert over color the same control that I can over B&W in the processing, printing, etc... process. TIA, Paolo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:02:32 -0700 From: "Eric Stral" To: Subject: RE: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: Paolo, A good choice would be the Olympus E-10. It generates a 11mb (raw file), has a long zoom range 35mm-150mm (approx) using high quality glass. It is a great camera, its like shooting with a Nikon N90s only a digital camera. It is great for previewing shots. Check out the web site: www.dpreview.net for reviews and alternatives in your price range. FWIW, Eric -----Original Message----- From: Paolo Pignatelli [mailto:paolopignatelli@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 7:41 AM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Hello Henry, Could you please recommend a "second camera" for experimenting with the digital media? As a Hasselblad owner, image quality is of the essence, but as a (presently) non-professional, I have a limited budget (<$1501.00) for this "second camera". Under these (severe constraints), what would you recommend as a "get your feet wet in digital photography? Have you heard of any "over the horizon in the next 3 or 4 months new model coming out with lower price, better performance, blah.... ? My Hasselblad work is 95% B&W, I am looking to digital so that I can exert over color the same control that I can over B&W in the processing, printing, etc... process. TIA, Paolo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:15:54 EDT From: BobR38@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: --part1_de.15dd35e9.28563aaa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paulo, I have the SONY 3.3 MegaPixel Cybershot Digital Camera which has a Carl Zeiss Sonnar Lens. I am very happy with the purchase (at about $900). Uses the Compact Memory Stick as storage source. Cordially, Bob R. --part1_de.15dd35e9.28563aaa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paulo,
I have the SONY 3.3 MegaPixel Cybershot Digital Camera which has a Carl Zeiss
Sonnar Lens. I am very happy with the purchase (at about $900). Uses the
Compact Memory Stick as storage source.
Cordially,
Bob R. --part1_de.15dd35e9.28563aaa_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:37:49 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: Need HP5+ help Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010611103711.0514d2b0@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:19 AM 06/10/2001, you wrote: >I just started experimenting with HP5+ in 220 because I need an ISO 400 b&w >film in that format. I don't care for TXP tonality, Ilford discontinued 400 >Delta in 220 and I know of no others. To see everything available in ISO 400 b&W 220 film, from our home page, follow this path: To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: Thanks, Eric, How would you compare an 11x11 "print" made from this camera, compared to a Hasselblad enlargement? When I shoot color, I use Fujichrome 100, how would you compare the quality of the two? I do not expect the two to be the same, but are they near? Regards, Paolo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:29:53 -0000 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: Hello Bob, Is the quality of a Zeiss lens even needed for a digital camera? I do like the focusing aspects of Zeiss lenses, especially the "out-of-focus" iamge that these lenses produce (what's the term???). But in digital with only 3.x megapixels, does the quality show through? Paolo >I have the SONY 3.3 MegaPixel Cybershot Digital Camera which has a Carl >Zeiss >Sonnar Lens. ... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:29:58 -0700 From: "Roger Beamon" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: happy Cayman Camera Message-ID: <3B248186.30035.ADAA4F@localhost> On 11 Jun 2001, Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video wrote, at least in part: > Here's EVERYTHING I KNOW about this particular subject. (Gentlemen, > start your thimbles). > > B&H doesn't sell "grey market" Hasselblad. Ethically & morally, > we (of course) have no difficulty with the concept of "grey > market," we just don't have any in Hassy stuff (nor in Leica or > Contax). We did not "tell on" Cayman Camera or complain to > Hasselblad USA about them. The only time we complain about > another retailer is when another USA retailer violates an MAP > agreement we're sticking to. Thanks for that, Henry. B&H's position seems proper to me in that regard, then. As you have said in the past, "grey Market" is fine as long as the customer knows that it is "grey market" and understands the difference. Though I understand the pros and cons of the 'maintaining the market' concept, I side with the 'all out free enterprise' side of it. Hasselblad, as the manufacturer, makes their margin, regardless, and it shouldn't be a concern of theirs if a retailer wants to work on a lesser margin. Oh sure, they want a stable retail platform from which to market their product, and don't like to see dealers involved in price wars that may lead to their downfall, but that's life in a *true* free enterprise system. (Have we ever had a true free enterprise system?) Back into your dungeon, Roger, you relic, you! -- Roger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:34:46 -0700 From: Nitzan Tagansky To: Subject: Re: Brightscreen vs. hasselblad acute matte Message-ID: Thank you for your opinion. What would you do if you needed to have your hasselblad screen divided into thirds then? > From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video > Reply-To: hasselblad@kelvin.net > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:17:20 -0400 > To: > Subject: Re: Brightscreen vs. hasselblad acute matte > > At 03:18 AM 06/09/2001, you wrote: >> Can anyone compare between the two screens? >> Which is higher quality and brightness? > > The trouble with too much brightness is that it comes at the expense of > contrast, which the human eye relies on for focusing. IMHO the 'blad > screens are #1. > -- > regards, > Henry Posner > Director of Sales and Training > B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. > http://www.bhphotovideo.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, > Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no > way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text > mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: > http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:35:53 -0500 From: "WILLIAMS, DAVID R. (JSC-DB) (USA)" To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: RE: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay ar ea? Message-ID: <41D2696EE385D0118DE90020AFFC1E5C063FD8D2@jsc-ems-mbs09.jsc.nasa.gov> BETTER PRICES THAN CAYMAN? REMEMBER TWO THINGS, CAYMAN CAMERA'S SERVICE AND REPUTATION IS EXCELLENT, BUT OF COURSE THE DOWN FALL OF THAT IS THAT IT'S ONLY A ONE YEAR INTERNATIONAL WARRANTY. WHAT'S THE NAMES OF THE STORES YOUR TALKING ABOUT AND IS THE CAMERA EQUIPMENT GREY MARKET OR USA WITH USA THREE YEAR WARRANTY. WHAT'S THE REPUTAION OF THESE STORES? THANKYOU FOR YOUR TIME. -----Original Message----- From: Mehrdad Sadat [mailto:m.sadat@verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 1:41 PM To: George Hartzell; hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE: Any happy Cayman Camera customers in the San Francisco Bay area? I can recommend two source in in hk and one in us that can give even better prices than cayman camera. contact me off list if you are interested _____________________________________ Thanks, Mehrdad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:25:55 -0400 From: "LEO WOLK" To: Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: <01c0f29b$928646a0$a965570c@fofyplfq> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0F27A.0B74A6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I KNOW this is "off topic"....but... I think the Sony's biggest downfall is it's reliance on Memory Stick. = Sony seems to have some kind of "thing" about using proprietary = technology which has always backfired (ie. Beta Video Tape format). = Memory Stick is their own "invention" and while it works FINE, they're = the only ones using it! The way the market is shaking out, in my opinion, CF (Compact Flash) is = going to become the dominant storage format, due to the introduction of = the IBM Micro-Drive. Even Olympus has seen the light and is equiping = it's cameras to take both CF and SM (Smart Media, which is Olympus' own = "baby"). =20 Personally, I WOULD NOT BUY a digital camera that doesn't accomodate CF. Just my $.02, Leo. -----Original Message----- From: BobR38@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Date: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners =20 =20 Paulo,=20 I have the SONY 3.3 MegaPixel Cybershot Digital Camera which has a = Carl Zeiss=20 Sonnar Lens. I am very happy with the purchase (at about $900). Uses = the=20 Compact Memory Stick as storage source.=20 Cordially,=20 Bob R.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0F27A.0B74A6A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I KNOW this is "off=20 topic"....but...
I think the = Sony's biggest=20 downfall is it's reliance on Memory Stick.  Sony seems to have some = kind of=20 "thing" about using proprietary technology which has always = backfired=20 (ie.  Beta Video Tape format).  Memory Stick is their own=20 "invention" and while it works FINE, they're the only ones = using=20 it!
 
The way the market is shaking out, in my opinion, CF = (Compact=20 Flash) is going to become the dominant storage format, due to the = introduction=20 of the IBM Micro-Drive.  Even Olympus has seen the light and is = equiping=20 it's cameras to take both CF and SM (Smart Media, which is Olympus' own=20 "baby"). 
 
Personally, I WOULD NOT BUY a digital camera that = doesn't=20 accomodate CF.
 
Just my $.02,     = Leo.
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 BobR38@aol.com <BobR38@aol.com>
To: = hasselblad@kelvin.net = <hasselblad@kelvin.net>
Date:=20 Monday, June 11, 2001 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Digital = camera for=20 Hasselblad owners

Paulo,
I have the SONY 3.3 MegaPixel Cybershot Digital = Camera=20 which has a Carl Zeiss
Sonnar Lens. I am very happy with the = purchase=20 (at about $900). Uses the
Compact Memory Stick as storage = source.=20
Cordially,
Bob R. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0F27A.0B74A6A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:01:19 EDT From: ShadCat11@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Need HP5+ help Message-ID: --part1_ea.16c01595.28566f7f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 8:22:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, henryp@bhphotovideo.com writes: > At 03:19 AM 06/10/2001, you wrote: > >I just started experimenting with HP5+ in 220 because I need an ISO 400 b& > w > >film in that format. I don't care for TXP tonality, Ilford discontinued 400 > >Delta in 220 and I know of no others. > > To see everything available in ISO 400 b&W 220 film, from our home page, > follow this path: > and using the drop downs, selected > All Brands > B&W > 320 - 400 > -- > regards, > Henry Posner > Does this differ from your catalog? If not, I have looked at that, already. In 220 I find only HP5+ and TXP. When I called, your salesman said 400 Delta was discontinued in that format. That's how I wound up with HP5+. Allen Zak --part1_ea.16c01595.28566f7f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 8:22:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
henryp@bhphotovideo.com writes:


At 03:19 AM 06/10/2001, you wrote:
>I just started experimenting with HP5+ in 220 because I need an ISO  400 b&
w
>film in that format. I don't care for TXP tonality, Ilford discontinued 400
>Delta in 220 and I know of no others.

To see everything available in ISO 400 b&W 220 film, from our home page,
follow this path:
<Home < Film < Standard Film < 120 & 220 Print
and using the drop downs, selected
All Brands
B&W
320 - 400
--
regards,
Henry Posner


Does this differ from your catalog?  If not, I have looked at that, already.  
In 220 I find only HP5+ and TXP.  When I called, your salesman said 400 Delta
was discontinued in that format.  That's how I wound up with HP5+.

Allen Zak --part1_ea.16c01595.28566f7f_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:31:50 -0700 From: "Eric Stral" To: Subject: RE: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: Whoa there buddy! Comparing prints between film and digital depends upon too many things to go into detail here. Let me just make one observation, scanned at 4000dpi a 35mm slide nets a 40mb plus file. A 4 megapixel camera, like the Olympus, generates an 11 mb file. At 8x10 you can get respectable prints with the 4 meg digital camera, but better than film, not yet. The REAL question is determining your needs. If all you are doing is catalog photography with 6" photos, this would be adequate, but for large fine art photography probably not, unless the photo is being viewed at a long distance (another subject). And colorbit depth is another issue we don't have time for here. Don't get rid of your Hassy gear yet for digital, although the $20k plus backs are getting really good. Eric ------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks, Eric, How would you compare an 11x11 "print" made from this camera, compared to a Hasselblad enlargement? When I shoot color, I use Fujichrome 100, how would you compare the quality of the two? I do not expect the two to be the same, but are they near? Regards, Paolo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:52:57 -0000 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: Hi Eric, I would use it for some color work, for example, close-ups of nature (flowers, etc...), some portraits, and some experimental work with light diffraction. Probably half the time I would work in studio with strobes, and half under natural light. I would NEVER give up my Hasselblads or their lenses, but was looking to get more control on any work I do in color. >>Whoa there buddy! > >Comparing prints between film and digital depends upon too many things to >go >into detail here. > >... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:11:53 EDT From: BobR38@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: <5a.16e73b77.28568009@aol.com> Paolo, I have to admit that for my specific uses, I don't have prints as my goal with the Sony. It's for mainly my Ebay pics, and yes I'm very happy with the results for that purpose. Obviously for enlargments and other print purposes this is not the best by far because of the limitations. But for the verification of composition, etc. which you initially asked about, I don't see how this camera would not suffice for that. I think for me the selling point which had me buy it was the Zeiss lens, but I do miss the fact that it doesn't have a viewfinder, only the Digital L.C.D. screen, but I'm getting used to it now. Cordially, Bob R. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:19:48 -0700 From: helenadick@worldnet.att.net To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Flash Sync on CF and CFI lenses Message-ID: <3B2535F4.101D866C@worldnet.att.net> I just put the following note on another board and was thinking that it may be of some help to you fellows as well. ----------------------------------------------------------------- > My Hass Lens Zeiss Distagon CF 50mm f/4 does not sync. I am from >Edmonton Canada and Iam looking for trasted repair shop with hasselblad >specialist. Can you recomend one. You do not need a repair shop, you just need to fix one of the many Hasselblad engineering glitches. You would think that they would know more by now, but evidently not. What happens on a lot of the CF and CFI lenses, is that the little hex nut that covers the flash contact, is not grounded. In all of Hasselblads wisdom, they put the black coating on the barrel and did not burnish the area where the flash contact is. GREAT ENGINEERING. Anyone that has ever worked with electronics, knows that you have to clean the plating where you want a good electrical contact. Anyhow, just put some masking tape (so that you do not mar the finish) on the hex portion of the flash sync, and unscrew it. From there, use an exacto knife blade and clean the black plating from this area. You may find a gold colored nut in here as well. Loosen it enough to get underneath and clean the plating there as well. Put it all back together, and you will now have a good ground and your flash will sync. Any idiot that has worked with electronics knows what should be done in an area like this, but unfortunately, Hasselblad does not have that knowledge. This will all be covered in the upcoming lens repair manual. The best, -- _______________________________ Dick Werner 112 South Brighton St. Burbank, Ca., 91506 (818) 845-4667 helenadick@worldnet.att.net http://home.att.net/~blackbird711/manual.txt _______________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:09:05 -0500 From: "Waldo Berry" To: Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: After coming back from leave, i was supprised at the discussion on = digital. Since I kind of started the fray or got in some early shots, = let me say this. I have a fuji S1 pro with nikon mount. Since I do this professionally, = the goal is a sellable print. I just spent a week working with photoshop = in school and a fuji pictorgraph 3500. Now, we worked with images in the = 2000-4000 DPI range. The shocker was when it came time to print, the = resolutions droped tpo 256-400 DPI. So I thought, what if I up the anty. = I sent a 16meg file to my lab and asked for a 20x24 print. I was = happy to see a very sellable print. I compaired it to a negative = produced print, and it was hard to tell unless I used my 10x scope on it. = So why use it, savings-savings-savings, there are lines of photography = it is well suited for, engagement pics, seniors, balls, proms, sports = pics, dance recittles. So now I push the envolop, and we shot it at a = wedding. We ran it in concert with the Hassy. I took 200 or so = exposures through the hassy, will cost about $229.00 with proofs and = processing. My wife took 360 with the fuji S1, cost nothing, saw each = exposure as she went and retook the ones she didn't like that instant. = At school last week i talked to a freind of mine who uses the digital in = concert with his hassy for a variaty of shooting. All in all, we agree = it is not a replacement for the hassy, but and enhancement. I could = better say it could replace the 35mm. Waldo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:44:17 -0700 From: "olenberger" To: Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: <004d01c0f2d8$d0f44120$9ba91f3f@default> Paolo: I believe the term you want is "Bokah." Someone told me this is pronounced "bouquet" as in a "bouquet of flowers." -Fritz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 8:29 AM Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners > Hello Bob, > > Is the quality of a Zeiss lens even needed for a digital camera? I do like > the focusing aspects of Zeiss lenses, especially the "out-of-focus" iamge > that these lenses produce (what's the term???). But in digital with only > 3.x megapixels, does the quality show through? > > Paolo > > >I have the SONY 3.3 MegaPixel Cybershot Digital Camera which has a Carl > >Zeiss > >Sonnar Lens. ... > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:52:01 EDT From: COHIBA7@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: <24.14c69a3a.2856c1b1@aol.com> --part1_24.14c69a3a.2856c1b1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "bokeh?" --part1_24.14c69a3a.2856c1b1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "bokeh?"      
--part1_24.14c69a3a.2856c1b1_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:13:55 -0700 From: David Gerhardt To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: <200106120113.VAA21861@granger.mail.mindspring.net> --Apple-Mail-1414123536-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii On Monday, June 11, 2001, at 08:29 AM, Paolo Pignatelli wrote: > Hello Bob, > > Is the quality of a Zeiss lens even needed for a digital camera? I do > like the focusing aspects of Zeiss lenses, especially the > "out-of-focus" iamge that these lenses produce (what's the term???). > But in digital with only 3.x megapixels, does the quality show through? > > Paolo > >> I have the SONY 3.3 MegaPixel Cybershot Digital Camera which has a >> Carl Zeiss >> Sonnar Lens. ... > I think you'd be amazed at how good some of the digital cameras are. I have a Nikon Coolpix 880 (~$500-600; ~3.4megapixels), and it produces very good images up to 8x10". It would probably do better if I had a higher quality printer. BUT, other than the Nikon D1, don't expect the kind of overall quality you get in something priced like a Hasselblad. VERY good for the money, ($500-$1200), but very few good SLR's so far. I believe the Olympus E-10 previously mentioned is one of the better ones. However, expect Nikon, Canon, etc to start introducing lower price models as the focal plane arrays drop in price. Oddly enough, I have no qualms with the Nikon 880 regarding quality of output (it's better than I expected). The thing I like LEAST about it is the poor "feel" of the shutter release, and the difficulty of getting a focus lock with the (non-SLR) focusing system. I'd have paid another $300 for the focusing accuracy of ANY good conventional Nikon SLR! -David Gerhardt (davidgerhardt@mindspring.com) --Apple-Mail-1414123536-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii On Monday, June 11, 2001, at 08:29 AM, Paolo Pignatelli wrote: Hello Bob, Is the quality of a Zeiss lens even needed for a digital camera? I do like the focusing aspects of Zeiss lenses, especially the "out-of-focus" iamge that these lenses produce (what's the term???).=20 But in digital with only 3.x megapixels, does the quality show through? Paolo I have the SONY 3.3 MegaPixel Cybershot Digital Camera which has a Carl Zeiss Sonnar Lens. ... I think you'd be amazed at how good some of the digital cameras are. I have a Nikon Coolpix 880 (~$500-600; ~3.4megapixels), and it produces very good images up to 8x10". It would probably do better if I had a higher quality printer. BUT, other than the Nikon D1, don't expect the kind of overall quality you get in something priced like a Hasselblad. VERY good for the money, ($500-$1200), but very few good SLR's so far. I believe the Olympus E-10 previously mentioned is one of the better ones. However, expect Nikon, Canon, etc to start introducing lower price models as the focal plane arrays drop in price. Oddly enough, I have no qualms with the Nikon 880 regarding quality of output (it's better than I expected). The thing I like LEAST about it is the poor "feel" of the shutter release, and the difficulty of getting a focus lock with the (non-SLR) focusing system. I'd have paid another $300 for the focusing accuracy of ANY good conventional Nikon SLR! 0000,0000,DEB7 Gill = Sans3535,4747,8787-David Gerhardt American = Typewriter(davidgerhardt@mindspring.com)= --Apple-Mail-1414123536-1-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:16:34 -0700 From: David Gerhardt To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: happy Cayman Camera Message-ID: <200106120115.VAA27574@granger.mail.mindspring.net> --Apple-Mail-1563600649-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii On Monday, June 11, 2001, at 08:29 AM, Roger Beamon wrote: > ... but that's > life in a *true* free enterprise system. (Have we ever had a true > free enterprise system?) > > Back into your dungeon, Roger, you relic, you! > > -- > Roger > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > I think we had a true free enterprise system last year, when all of my tech stocks lost 90% of their value! ;-) -David Gerhardt (davidgerhardt@mindspring.com) --Apple-Mail-1563600649-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii On Monday, June 11, 2001, at 08:29 AM, Roger Beamon wrote: ... but that's=20 life in a *true* free enterprise system. (Have we ever had a true=20 free enterprise system?) Back into your dungeon, Roger, you relic, you! -- Roger ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I think we had a true free enterprise system last year, when all of my tech stocks lost 90% of their value! ;-) Gill = Sans3535,4747,8787-David Gerhardt American = Typewriter(davidgerhardt@mindspring.com)= --Apple-Mail-1563600649-2-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:40:05 -0700 From: David Gerhardt To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: <200106120139.VAA17113@blount.mail.mindspring.net> --Apple-Mail-198181679-4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii On Monday, June 11, 2001, at 12:52 PM, Paolo Pignatelli wrote: > Hi Eric, > > I would use it for some color work, for example, close-ups of nature > (flowers, etc...), some portraits, and some experimental work with > light diffraction. Probably half the time I would work in studio with > strobes, and half under natural light. I would NEVER give up my > Hasselblads or their lenses, but was looking to get more control on any > work I do in color. > Don't forget a PC or a Mac; color printer, and Photoshop 6.0 (~$600; or perhaps their new, less expensive "consumer" version called "Photoshop Elements"... about $99), and LOTS of RAM. -David Gerhardt (davidgerhardt@mindspring.com) --Apple-Mail-198181679-4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii On Monday, June 11, 2001, at 12:52 PM, Paolo Pignatelli wrote: Hi Eric, I would use it for some color work, for example, close-ups of nature (flowers, etc...), some portraits, and some experimental work with light diffraction. Probably half the time I would work in studio with strobes, and half under natural light. I would NEVER give up my Hasselblads or their lenses, but was looking to get more control on any work I do in color. Don't forget a PC or a Mac; color printer, and Photoshop 6.0 (~$600; or perhaps their new, less expensive "consumer" version called "Photoshop Elements"... about $99), and LOTS of RAM.=20 =20 Gill = Sans3535,4747,8787-David Gerhardt American = Typewriter(davidgerhardt@mindspring.com)= --Apple-Mail-198181679-4-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:00:20 EDT From: BobR38@aol.com To: bigleo@worldnet.att.net, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: <62.fce47eb.2856d1b4@aol.com> --part1_62.fce47eb.2856d1b4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 5:25:40 PM !!!First Boot!!!, bigleo@worldnet.att.net writes: > I think the Sony's biggest downfall is it's reliance on Memory Stick. Sony > seems to have some kind of "thing" about using proprietary technology which > has always backfired (ie. Beta Video Tape format). Memory Stick is their > own "invention" and while it works FINE, they're the only ones using it! Leo, while it is true that Sony's BETA format flopped early on (although it was superior quality to VHS!), the Memory Stick I think is a different realm altogether. Not only does it come with adaptor for input directly into the universal USB port on ANY computer, but it also has available an adaptor (just as the flash card does) for the floppy drive for input that way, or of course, you can download pics to computer using cables furnished by SONY as part of the camera outfit. Also, with computer equipment, who knows if both the memory stick and the flash card both get obsoleted a few years down the line. But for now, I'm quite happy with the Sony system. Cordially, Bob --part1_62.fce47eb.2856d1b4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/01 5:25:40 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
bigleo@worldnet.att.net writes:


I think the Sony's biggest downfall is it's reliance on Memory Stick.  Sony
seems to have some kind of "thing" about using proprietary technology which
has always backfired (ie.  Beta Video Tape format).  Memory Stick is their
own "invention" and while it works FINE, they're the only ones using it!
Leo, while it is true that Sony's BETA format flopped early on (although it
was superior quality to VHS!), the Memory Stick I think is a different realm
altogether. Not only does it come with adaptor for input directly into the
universal USB port on ANY computer, but it also has available an adaptor
(just as the flash card does) for the floppy drive for input that way, or of
course, you can download pics to computer using cables furnished by SONY as
part of the camera outfit.
Also, with computer equipment, who knows if both the memory stick and the
flash card both get obsoleted a few years down the line. But for now, I'm
quite happy with the Sony system.
Cordially,
Bob

--part1_62.fce47eb.2856d1b4_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:04:27 EDT From: BobR38@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: <34.165e9014.2856d2ab@aol.com> --part1_34.165e9014.2856d2ab_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/12/01 1:14:00 AM !!!First Boot!!!, davidgerhardt@mindspring.com writes: > The thing I like LEAST about it is > David, I have to agree with you about the shutter release. It also applies to the SONY I have (and to many other digital cameras I tested before deciding to go with the SONY). There's nothing like the 'CLICK' and feel of the Hasselblad (or the NIKON 35mm's as well). Cordially, Bob R. --part1_34.165e9014.2856d2ab_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/12/01 1:14:00 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
davidgerhardt@mindspring.com writes:


The thing I like LEAST about it is
the poor "feel" of the shutter release.


David, I have to agree with you about the shutter release. It also applies to
the SONY I have (and to many other digital cameras I tested before deciding
to go with the SONY). There's nothing like the 'CLICK' and feel of the
Hasselblad (or the NIKON 35mm's as well).
Cordially,
Bob R. --part1_34.165e9014.2856d2ab_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:22:40 EDT From: BobR38@aol.com To: Hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: <7a.16326ac1.2856d6f0@aol.com> --part1_7a.16326ac1.2856d6f0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Filks, To view the SONY F505V Specs and Pics, please click on link below.... Click here: Digital Cameras - Sony DSC-F505V Digital Camera Review: Intro and Highlights Bob R. --part1_7a.16326ac1.2856d6f0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Filks,
To view the SONY F505V Specs and Pics, please click on link below....
Click here: Digital Cameras - Sony DSC-F505V Digital Camera Review: Intro and
Highlights

Bob R. --part1_7a.16326ac1.2856d6f0_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:48:21 -0700 From: helenadick@worldnet.att.net To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: <3B259105.A06F36FB@worldnet.att.net> In your thinking about digital camera's, one might consider the Sony CD1000. There are no slow memory sticks or anything like that. This dude writes directly to a CD in the camera, and you can throw the CD into your computer. It has a 20/1 zoom, and takes fantastic photo's. Just thought I would throw it out there. I have one, and would not be without it. It is quite a camera. The photo's are fantastic. The best, -- _______________________________ Dick Werner 112 South Brighton St. Burbank, Ca., 91506 (818) 845-4667 helenadick@worldnet.att.net http://home.att.net/~blackbird711/manual.txt _______________________________ ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #1255 ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html