hasselblad Wed, 13 Jun 2001 Volume 1 : Number 1256 In this issue: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Re: Digital camera/printer for Hasselblad owners Good Digital backs... head for a 1228? Re: head for a 1228? RE: Good Digital backs... Darkroom question Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners [OT] Re: Brightscreen vs. hasselblad acute matte Re: Digital camera [OT] Re: Brightscreen vs. hasselblad acute matte Re: Need HP5+ help Re: Darkroom question Re: Good Digital backs... Question for the group, slightly off-topic Re: Question for the group, slightly off-topic Re: Question for the group, slightly off-topic RE: Question for the group, slightly off-topic RE: Question for the group, slightly off-topic RE: Question for the group, slightly off-topic Re: Cover use of press-kit photo Re: Cover use of press-kit photo Re: Question for the group, slightly off-topic Re: Cover use of press-kit photo Re: Question for the group, slightly off-topic Re: Re: Need HP5+ help Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners RE: Question for the group, slightly off-topic ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:19:01 -0000 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: Thanks, that's exactly it! Paolo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:51:54 -0000 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Digital camera/printer for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: Yes, I will be using an Athalon 1.33 GHtz with 1 Gig of RAM. AS regards a printer... well, that's a whole other thread. Paolo >From: David Gerhardt >Reply-To: hasselblad@kelvin.net >To: hasselblad@kelvin.net >Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners >Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:40:05 -0700 > > >On Monday, June 11, 2001, at 12:52 PM, Paolo Pignatelli wrote: > >>Hi Eric, >> >>I would use it for some color work, for example, close-ups of nature >>(flowers, etc...), some portraits, and some experimental work with >>light diffraction. Probably half the time I would work in studio with >>strobes, and half under natural light. I would NEVER give up my >>Hasselblads or their lenses, but was looking to get more control on any >>work I do in color. >> >Don't forget a PC or a Mac; color printer, and Photoshop 6.0 (~$600; or >perhaps their new, less expensive "consumer" version called "Photoshop >Elements"... about $99), and LOTS of RAM. > >-David Gerhardt > >(davidgerhardt@mindspring.com) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:47:35 -0400 From: mikec To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Good Digital backs... Message-ID: <3B260157.CB76CC2B@america.net> >>Don't get rid of your Hassy gear yet for digital, although the $20k plus >>backs are getting really good. Tell us about some of the digital backs you mean. URL's please. Thanks... -mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:56:47 -0400 (EDT) From: shino@ubspainewebber.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net (Hasselblad Users Group (HUG)) Subject: head for a 1228? Message-ID: <200106121156.HAA28727@tigercat.pwj.com> i recently bought a used 1228 plus head at a pretty good price. i find, however, i don't really like the gitzo magnesium ball head. for one thing, the ball adjustment knob is on the right side (from the photographer's position) which is hard to use when you have the winder cw) i have a reporter (the old tri-color one, remember that?) with tilt and pan, and for me, that works well. anyone have suggestions for a nice tilt pan head appropriate for the 1228? thanks for the advice, -rei ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:51:18 EDT From: COHIBA7@aol.com To: shino@ubspainewebber.com, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: head for a 1228? Message-ID: <8e.16e3f398.28577856@aol.com> --part1_8e.16e3f398.28577856_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Go to your local high end retailer and try your gear with an Arca Swiss B1. --part1_8e.16e3f398.28577856_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Go to your local high end retailer and try your gear with an Arca Swiss B1. --part1_8e.16e3f398.28577856_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:01:07 -0700 From: "Eric Stral" To: , Subject: RE: Good Digital backs... Message-ID: Leaf, Sinar, Kodak. Sorry you will have to use google to find the url's Eric -----Original Message----- From: mikec [mailto:mikec@america.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 4:48 AM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Good Digital backs... >>Don't get rid of your Hassy gear yet for digital, although the $20k plus >>backs are getting really good. Tell us about some of the digital backs you mean. URL's please. Thanks... -mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:12:01 +0200 From: Michael Buchstaller To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Darkroom question Message-ID: Hello Folks, recently i have taken some rolls of film (Tmax 400) with portraits for a= colleague of me. After developing it, i have scanned the images and put it up on a = web page so she could select which ones she wants. Now, she has given me a list with the images she wants me to enlarge for = her. To make sure that i do not forget some of the images, i want to mark the = photo paper *before* processing it, so that i can mark it with the negatove and roll = number while i am putting the negative in the enlarger. Which pen should i use so that it will survive the developing and washing= process, and not dissolve or stain my chemicals ? Or how do others mark the shots ? I do not want to wade though 20-30 = finished prints and search on 18 rolls of film to find the exactly matching negative = number.... -Michael Buchstaller ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:39:09 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners [OT] Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010612103241.048e8460@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:09 AM 06/12/2001, you wrote: >Could you please recommend a "second camera" for experimenting with the >digital media? As a Hasselblad owner, image quality is of the essence, but >as a (presently) non-professional, I have a limited budget (<$1501.00) for >this "second camera". Under these (severe constraints), what would you >recommend as a "get your feet wet in digital photography? There are so many nowadays, from Nikon, Canon, Epson, HP, Olympus etc. Either peruse our digital camera section online (from the home page use Home < Digital Photography < Cameras & Accessories < Digital Cameras ) or check dpreview.com and the other popular digital online sites. The new Nikon Coolpix 995 has gotten rave reviews; the Canon PowerShot G1 is very nice and has a hot shoe which accepts Canon E-TTL flashes. Minolta has announced two new Dimage models, and every Olympus model is good (particularly since they have little in the 35mm SLR range and have really embraced the new technology). > Have you heard of >any "over the horizon in the next 3 or 4 months new model coming out with >lower price, better performance, blah.... ? There will ALWAYS be a new this-or-that next week or next month and if you wait for the really good one, you'll never buy while the rest of us are e-mailing snapshots of the kid's soccer goal back and forth. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:43:25 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: Brightscreen vs. hasselblad acute matte Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010612104054.048e9c10@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:09 AM 06/12/2001, you wrote: >What would you do if you needed to have your hasselblad screen divided >into thirds then? Among your choices: Buy a custom-made screen. Any of the three after-market screen makers will build you one if you have the cash. Have a repair shop etch one for you. I know several individuals who had screens etched very nicely by Armato's Service (in Queens, NY). Etch one yourself. All you need is an Exacto knife, a straight edge, steady hands, and the willingness to "eat" your mistakes. Mark one with a fine point permanent marker pen. Mark a piece of clear acetate the same size as your screen and lay the acetate on top of the screen. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:44:37 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: Digital camera [OT] Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010612104410.048e81f0@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:09 AM 06/12/2001, you wrote: >I KNOW this is "off topic"....but... >I think the Sony's biggest downfall is it's reliance on Memory Stick. >Sony seems to have some kind of "thing" about using proprietary >technology which has always backfired (ie. Beta Video Tape format). >Memory Stick is their own "invention" and while it works FINE, they're >the only ones using it! FWIW, you're not the only one who feels this way. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:49:33 -0700 From: Nitzan Tagansky To: Subject: Re: Brightscreen vs. hasselblad acute matte Message-ID: Excellent advise, much appreciated! Nitzan > From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video > Reply-To: hasselblad@kelvin.net > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:43:25 -0400 > To: > Subject: Re: Brightscreen vs. hasselblad acute matte > > At 03:09 AM 06/12/2001, you wrote: >> What would you do if you needed to have your hasselblad screen divided >> into thirds then? > > Among your choices: > Buy a custom-made screen. Any of the three after-market screen > makers will build you one if you have the cash. > Have a repair shop etch one for you. I know several individuals > who had screens etched very nicely by Armato's Service (in Queens, NY). > Etch one yourself. All you need is an Exacto knife, a straight > edge, steady hands, and the willingness to "eat" your mistakes. > Mark one with a fine point permanent marker pen. > Mark a piece of clear acetate the same size as your screen and lay > the acetate on top of the screen. > -- > regards, > Henry Posner > Director of Sales and Training > B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. > http://www.bhphotovideo.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, > Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no > way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text > mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: > http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:50:48 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: Need HP5+ help Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010612104637.048eabf0@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:09 AM 06/12/2001, you wrote: >Does this differ from your catalog? If not, I have looked at that, already. >In 220 I find only HP5+ and TXP. When I called, your salesman said 400 Delta >was discontinued in that format. That's how I wound up with HP5+. Ilford HP5 Plus 400 220 Kodak Portra 400BW 220 (chromogenic) Kodak T-Max Professional TCN 400 220 (chromogenic) Kodak Tri-X Pan Professional TXP 320 220 Delta 400 in 220 is disc. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:42:46 -0000 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Darkroom question Message-ID: Hi, I usually mark in pencil with a number which corresponds to one I have in a notebook with more info (Film type, exposure, etc...). Paolo >From: Michael Buchstaller >Reply-To: hasselblad@kelvin.net >To: hasselblad@kelvin.net >Subject: Darkroom question >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:12:01 +0200 > >Hello Folks, > >recently i have taken some rolls of film (Tmax 400) with portraits for a >colleague >of me. After developing it, i have scanned the images and put it up on a >web page >so she could select which ones she wants. >Now, she has given me a list with the images she wants me to enlarge for >her. > >To make sure that i do not forget some of the images, i want to mark the >photo paper >*before* processing it, so that i can mark it with the negatove and roll >number while i am >putting the negative in the enlarger. > >Which pen should i use so that it will survive the developing and washing >process, >and not dissolve or stain my chemicals ? >Or how do others mark the shots ? I do not want to wade though 20-30 >finished prints and >search on 18 rolls of film to find the exactly matching negative number.... > > >-Michael Buchstaller >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute >Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing >list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, >or affiliates. > >Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use >text mode only. > >To change your subscription status, go to: >http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad >Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm >Searchable archives can be found at >http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:55:37 EDT From: BobR38@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Good Digital backs... Message-ID: <108.128d432.2857b199@aol.com> --part1_108.128d432.2857b199_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Don't forget Phase One. Bob --part1_108.128d432.2857b199_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Don't forget Phase One.
Bob --part1_108.128d432.2857b199_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:57:38 -0700 From: Jim Stewart To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Question for the group, slightly off-topic Message-ID: <3B266622.4FCAB959@jkmicro.com> Hello all, This is a little off-topic, but nonetheless I think the group will find the story interesting. I am the president of a small company that makes industrial computer boards. I also own a 500c kit that I use to take ad and press release pictures of our products. A few months ago I shot a picture of one of our new products and our marketing guy sent it and a press release out to about 80 trade magazines. The intent is to have the magazine put the text and picture in their "new products" section. Yesterday I received a copy of one of the magazines and my product shot was on the front cover in full color. http://www.rdmag.com/Scripts/toc0104.asp There was no mention of my product in the cover article, no credit for the photo, and no press release text. Just my picture on the cover and nothing more. As a long-time amateur photographer, I guess I feel honored that a photo of mine made it to the cover of a 4-color glossy magazine, but on the other hand, I can't help feeling a little used. Any comments? Jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:55:32 -0700 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Question for the group, slightly off-topic Message-ID: <200106121859.LAA01436@spoon.alink.net> This is copyright infringement. You can sue them for damages, and win. But first you should try congenial negotiation. Jim At 11:57 AM 6/12/01 -0700, Jim Stewart wrote: >Hello all, > >This is a little off-topic, but nonetheless I think the group will find >the story interesting. > >I am the president of a small company that makes industrial computer >boards. I also own a 500c kit that I use to take ad and press release >pictures of our products. A few months ago I shot a picture of one of >our new products and our marketing guy sent it and a press release out >to about 80 trade magazines. The intent is to have the magazine put the >text and picture in their "new products" section. > >Yesterday I received a copy of one of the magazines and my product shot >was on the front cover in full color. >http://www.rdmag.com/Scripts/toc0104.asp There was no mention of my >product in the cover article, no credit for the photo, and no press >release text. Just my picture on the cover and nothing more. > >As a long-time amateur photographer, I guess I feel honored that a photo >of mine made it to the cover of a 4-color glossy magazine, but on the >other hand, I can't help feeling a little used. > >Any comments? > >Jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:00:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Moore To: Subject: Re: Question for the group, slightly off-topic Message-ID: > pictures of our products. A few months ago I shot a picture of one of > our new products and our marketing guy sent it and a press release out > to about 80 trade magazines. The intent is to have the magazine put the > text and picture in their "new products" section. > > Yesterday I received a copy of one of the magazines and my product shot > was on the front cover in full color. ... > As a long-time amateur photographer, I guess I feel honored that a photo > of mine made it to the cover of a 4-color glossy magazine, but on the > other hand, I can't help feeling a little used. A common problem; you're not alone. Happened to me a couple times with a photos I made for organizations and they ended up in the local papers with no credit. My advice is that if you are submitting photos DIRECTLY from you to somebody else, YOU need to be very clear (perhaps in writing, maybe even get a signature) about how the photo may be used. If there is a third party in the middle (a marketing person, or in my case a theatre group), you need to be very clear to that person instead (or in addition). HOWEVER -- in this case, it sounds like the photo is doing some fantastic advertising for you. Even if your name isn't attached, surely there is a description of the product. It's entirely possible that in this case your company benefitted more than anyone, including the journals and magazines. --Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:04:48 -0400 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: Question for the group, slightly off-topic Message-ID: > Even if your name isn't attached, surely > there is a description of the product. I don't believe that's the case... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:05:47 -0400 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: Question for the group, slightly off-topic Message-ID: ...like a year of free full page ads ;-) > -----Original Message----- > > This is copyright infringement. You can sue them for damages, and win. But > first you should try congenial negotiation. > > Jim > > >Yesterday I received a copy of one of the magazines and my product shot > >was on the front cover in full color. > >http://www.rdmag.com/Scripts/toc0104.asp There was no mention of my > >product in the cover article, no credit for the photo, and no press > >release text. Just my picture on the cover and nothing more. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:10:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Moore To: Subject: RE: Question for the group, slightly off-topic Message-ID: > > Even if your name isn't attached, surely > > there is a description of the product. > > I don't believe that's the case... ...then I'd be upset. If the photo were being used as, or in place of, a "stock" photo, I'd follow up without a second thought. Technically, morally, maybe even legally (but don't ask me I'm no expert) they should seek and get permission from the photographer REGARDLESS of how they use the image, and they should know better than to not do that. In fact they'd be (and maybe are) fools to not do that. We can all dream, can't we? :) --Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:00:26 -0700 From: bfranson@greennet.net (Bill Franson) To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Cover use of press-kit photo Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010612160026.00809ab0@mail.greennet.net> At 11:57 AM 06/12/2001 -0700, you wrote: >http://www.rdmag.com/Scripts/toc0104.asp There was no mention of my >product in the cover article, no credit for the photo, and no press >release text. Just my picture on the cover and nothing more. On the cover use of your photo go to the magazine website, check the advertising/editorial info button, then editorial guidelines, then front cover photo button on. You will see, "The front cover photo is selected to illustrate the editorial focus of an issue." and "Full credit will be given to the company or individual supplying the photo." I would double check the mag and then contact the editor in charge if you feel there was an error. Be nice, and firm. It was said in another thread but needs underlining; be very specific about how you intend your images to be used. And on the 'feeling a little bit used, every pro has his or her own story. Bill Franson 978.463.8100 http://www.bfranson.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:10:20 -0700 From: Jim Stewart To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Cover use of press-kit photo Message-ID: <3B26772C.3C6DB14A@jkmicro.com> Thanks for spotting that. I will follow up on it. Jim Bill Franson wrote: > > At 11:57 AM 06/12/2001 -0700, you wrote: > > >http://www.rdmag.com/Scripts/toc0104.asp There was no mention of my > >product in the cover article, no credit for the photo, and no press > >release text. Just my picture on the cover and nothing more. > > On the cover use of your photo go to the magazine website, check the > advertising/editorial info button, then editorial guidelines, then front > cover photo button on. You will see, "The front cover photo is selected to > illustrate the editorial focus of an issue." and "Full credit will be given > to the company or individual supplying the photo." I would double check the > mag and then contact the editor in charge if you feel there was an error. > Be nice, and firm. > It was said in another thread but needs underlining; be very specific about > how you intend your images to be used. > And on the 'feeling a little bit used, every pro has his or her own story. > > Bill Franson > > 978.463.8100 > http://www.bfranson.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:11:32 -0400 From: "Peter Klosky" To: Subject: Re: Question for the group, slightly off-topic Message-ID: <003101c0f37b$e1ce1400$230a210a@dulles> Jim After reading some of the ideas, maybe you'd consider the following: Since your original intention was to have your product featured, and that's what you gave permission for, consider asking them to provide that coverage. I think you want these folks, sleazes that they are for leaving out product details, on your side. Perhaps they could run the "product feature" you wanted, and add comment that this was the product on their previous cover, photographed by the most notable Jim Stewart, man of many talents. In this way, they do not need to apologize, and they continue to feature your board as "cover quality" product. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Stewart" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:57 PM Subject: Question for the group, slightly off-topic > Hello all, > > This is a little off-topic, but nonetheless I think the group will find > the story interesting. > > I am the president of a small company that makes industrial computer > boards. I also own a 500c kit that I use to take ad and press release > pictures of our products. A few months ago I shot a picture of one of > our new products and our marketing guy sent it and a press release out > to about 80 trade magazines. The intent is to have the magazine put the > text and picture in their "new products" section. > > Yesterday I received a copy of one of the magazines and my product shot > was on the front cover in full color. > http://www.rdmag.com/Scripts/toc0104.asp There was no mention of my > product in the cover article, no credit for the photo, and no press > release text. Just my picture on the cover and nothing more. > > As a long-time amateur photographer, I guess I feel honored that a photo > of mine made it to the cover of a 4-color glossy magazine, but on the > other hand, I can't help feeling a little used. > > Any comments? > > Jim > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:15:44 -0400 From: "Peter Klosky" To: Subject: Re: Cover use of press-kit photo Message-ID: <003801c0f37c$77dc6280$230a210a@dulles> > > And on the 'feeling a little bit used, every pro has his or her own story. I know exactly what you are talking about. Photography is expensive, from the gear to the film to the training and on and on. What works for me is to do get paid in advance an agreed sum for what the work is, and wedding jobs have that custom. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:10:03 -0700 From: David Gerhardt To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Question for the group, slightly off-topic Message-ID: <200106130109.VAA17680@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> On Tuesday, June 12, 2001, at 11:55 AM, Jim Brick wrote: > This is copyright infringement. You can sue them for damages, and win. > But > first you should try congenial negotiation. > > Jim > > > At 11:57 AM 6/12/01 -0700, Jim Stewart wrote: >> ... but on the >> other hand, I can't help feeling a little used. >> >> Any comments? >> >> Jim > At a minimum, most magazines would print some sort of apology (accompanied by a description of your company, etc) if you simply "brought this to their attention" on your company letterhead. -David Gerhardt (davidgerhardt@mindspring.com) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:45:30 EDT From: ShadCat11@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Re: Need HP5+ help Message-ID: <106.12f0fec.28581fba@aol.com> I was aware of the chromogenics, just never had any confidence in them. This may perhaps be wrongheaded, but I retain the right to be a curmudgeon for no good reason. This led me to exclude them automatically, hence my reference to the two conventional films only. Allen Zak In a message dated 06/12/2001 10:53:56 AM, you wrote: <Does this differ from your catalog? If not, I have looked at that, already. >In 220 I find only HP5+ and TXP. When I called, your salesman said 400 Delta >was discontinued in that format. That's how I wound up with HP5+. Ilford HP5 Plus 400 220 Kodak Portra 400BW 220 (chromogenic) Kodak T-Max Professional TCN 400 220 (chromogenic) Kodak Tri-X Pan Professional TXP 320 220 Delta 400 in 220 is disc. -- regards, Henry Posner>> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:56:55 -0500 From: Robert Welch To: Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: > Is the quality of a Zeiss lens even needed for a digital camera? I do like > the focusing aspects of Zeiss lenses, especially the "out-of-focus" iamge > that these lenses produce (what's the term???). But in digital with only > 3.x megapixels, does the quality show through? > > Paolo Because of the smaller size of the sensors, relative to the area of exposed film, lens resolution is even more critical with digital cameras. I've heard that current lens technology is only good enough to take digital cameras up to about 4 megapixels at the current CCD size being produced. My guess is in a 3.x megapixel camera, a Carl Zeiss lens is better than many other lenses, and probably makes a difference, if only a small difference. As for digital vs. film, they are two different beasts, and each has it's advantages and disadvantages. To simply say that a certain digital camera will give you an 11x14 equal to film is impossible, since the circumstances of the photo are not specified. There are many things that film can handle decently which digital can't do so well yet, such as low light situations. Also, digital can introduce aberrations, such as chromatic fringing, which can be very hard to predict. As a wedding photographer, I find film is a much more forgiving and predictable beast, although you are never sure until you have the film developed...but gee, isn't that half the fun?! On the plus side for digital is that it's improving rapidly, and decreasing in cost. I feel it's a matter of time before this discussion is irrelevant, and we will all be shooting digital only. But will that be in 5 years, or 100 years? Who's to say? Robert Welch www.rwphotography.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:46:32 -0400 From: "Eugene A. Pallat" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Digital camera for Hasselblad owners Message-ID: <3B26D408.CEB4602B@apk.net> There was a vendor show at a local camera chain's main (professional) store. I looked at Kodak's display of 16x20 prints from digital cameras. The opinion of several of the vendors agreed with mine. I would have been embarrassed to display these prints. The resolution left a lot to be desired and there were some defects that were called "pixilation". At a Hasselblad seminar, one photographer who uses digital for such things as high school yearbooks had 30x40s that were superior to Kodak's prints, but still not what can be achieved with film. Gene Pallat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:16:12 -0700 From: "Rod Leavitt" To: Subject: RE: Question for the group, slightly off-topic Message-ID: A few months ago I shot a picture of one of > our new products and our marketing guy sent it and a press release out > to about 80 trade magazines. The intent is to have the magazine put the > text and picture in their "new products" section. > > Yesterday I received a copy of one of the magazines and my product shot > was on the front cover in full color. Call the magazine and request to speak with their legal department. Explain the circumstances and request credits with a mention of your product's function. If they do not have a legal department, make the same request to their editor. In either case, most vertically integrated marketing magazines (trade mags) will be apologetic and comply with a reasonable request. Generally, they are more technical and less marketing/legal. R -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Moore [mailto:dmm@bronze.lcs.mit.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:01 PM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Question for the group, slightly off-topic > pictures of our products. A few months ago I shot a picture of one of > our new products and our marketing guy sent it and a press release out > to about 80 trade magazines. The intent is to have the magazine put the > text and picture in their "new products" section. > > Yesterday I received a copy of one of the magazines and my product shot > was on the front cover in full color. ... > As a long-time amateur photographer, I guess I feel honored that a photo > of mine made it to the cover of a 4-color glossy magazine, but on the > other hand, I can't help feeling a little used. A common problem; you're not alone. Happened to me a couple times with a photos I made for organizations and they ended up in the local papers with no credit. My advice is that if you are submitting photos DIRECTLY from you to somebody else, YOU need to be very clear (perhaps in writing, maybe even get a signature) about how the photo may be used. If there is a third party in the middle (a marketing person, or in my case a theatre group), you need to be very clear to that person instead (or in addition). HOWEVER -- in this case, it sounds like the photo is doing some fantastic advertising for you. Even if your name isn't attached, surely there is a description of the product. It's entirely possible that in this case your company benefitted more than anyone, including the journals and magazines. --Andrew ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. 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