hasselblad Tue, 26 Jun 2001 Volume 1 : Number 1269 In this issue: Re: Airport X-rays vs. Post Office Re: Airport X-rays vs. Post Office airport X-rays and all that hassle Re: airport X-rays and all that hassle Re: Airport X-rays vs. Post Office Inconsistent synch? Re: Airport X-rays vs. Post Office Re: Airport X-rays vs. Post Office Re: Airport X-rays vs. Post Office Re: airport X-rays and all that hassle ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 04:38:07 -0700 (PDT) From: R Barr To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Airport X-rays vs. Post Office Message-ID: <8584387.993469087022.JavaMail.imail@bronty> I hope that the 300+ rolls of film I have won't be much of a problem. I had some problems at London's Waterloo station, but I am preparing for the worst at CDG. I have all of the labeled rolls out of the containers, I have an empty 3200 film package saying DO NOT X-RAY, but we'll see. It won't be the first time I've had an AK-47 pointed at me! If it does get x-rayed I don't think the film, exposed at 12500 and 25000, will stand much of a chance. Thanks for the help. _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:54:01 -0700 From: Patrick Bartek To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Airport X-rays vs. Post Office Message-ID: <01062422015301.02334@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, R Barr wrote: > I believe it was here that I read that CDG Airport in Paris refused to hand > check film. Is this true? I recently mailed to the US from Belgium a box of > exposed film and was wondering if this is a wiser option. The box made it > home safely, I am told. Any info on Charles De Gaulle Airport X-ray > experiences would be appreciated. Or any postal info, for that matter. Since X-raying is only a concern with unprocessed film, why not just process your film before going through airport check points? I'm sure a phone call or two to local pro's will get you the names of the labs they use. It may cost you more than processing it when you get home, but isn't that better than having everything fogged? -- Patrick Bartek NoLife Polymath Group bartek@intermind.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:47:08 -0700 From: "bradleya" To: Subject: airport X-rays and all that hassle Message-ID: <001001c0fec4$54047fc0$7301a8c0@hometrain.com.tw> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0FE89.8CAB8700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know that not everybody travels with the same time restrains and = concerns. This post is not an attempt to say that your sufferings are = not real or avoidable. Be that as it may, I have been throught Schipol = in Amsterdam five times and have only had one person question my routine = statement about film; which is, "I have a few rolls of unexposed film, = want to take a look?" and when they see that it is a plastic bag with 15 = or 20 rolls in it, they just pass me on by. I (again the disclaimer about time constraints) always develop my = chromes in the country where I have shot them and then I know if I got = what I wanted or not. If it is reshootable, I go back. If not, I lick = my wounds and go on my way. =20 Everyone has different priorities in photography and far be it from me = to chide someone for wanting to shoot 200 rolls of=20 infrared film in Upper Slobvovia and then want the Joe Blow at the Xray = to have sympathy on them. I guess you know what you're doing. Fortunately, If I travel to another country I always plan to stay for = several weeks or a few months and arrange to have my chromes processed = locally. This goes for countries such as India and Nepal. Both = countries have excellent facilites for processing Kodak and Fuji films = (up to 4X5) and from them I have always received great slides. In the = more remote regions of Bhutan, Shikim and western China, I have never = had any problems with their Xray machines or customs agents. It seems to me that if your wants or assignments are so important that = you need to shoot 600 rolls of 3200 ASA or 250 rolls of infrared and, = you are not on a self fulfilling lark, you have the support of of a = major concern which should be able to advise customs of your exiting = airport of the nature of the film you are carrying and get you through = with little hassle. The bottom line? IMHO get it processed as quickly as possible on = location. =20 BTW, some of the toughest customs I have been through are in Bangladesh = and Pakistan. In both airports, a show of a lack of concern about what = I had, an appropriate Moslem greeting and a quick unzipping of my = carry-on bags with +-50 rolls of 120 got a quick "move along". A lot of it boils down to being organized and street smarts. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0FE89.8CAB8700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I know that not everybody travels with = the same=20 time restrains and concerns.  This post is not an attempt to say = that your=20 sufferings are not real or avoidable.  Be that as it may, I have = been=20 throught Schipol in Amsterdam five times and have only had one person = question=20 my routine statement about film; which is, "I have a few rolls of = unexposed=20 film, want to take a look?" and when they see that it is a plastic bag = with 15=20 or 20 rolls in it, they just pass me on by.
 
I (again the disclaimer about time = constraints)=20 always develop my chromes in the country where I have shot them and then = I know=20 if I got what I wanted or not.  If it is reshootable, I go back. If = not, I=20 lick my wounds and go on my way. 
 
Everyone has different priorities in = photography=20 and far be it from me to chide someone for wanting to shoot 200 rolls of =
infrared film in Upper = Slobvovia and then=20 want the Joe Blow at the Xray to have sympathy on them.  I guess = you know=20 what you're doing.
 
Fortunately, If I travel to another = country I=20 always plan to stay for several weeks or a few months and arrange to = have my=20 chromes processed locally.  This goes for countries such as India = and=20 Nepal.  Both countries have excellent facilites for processing = Kodak and=20 Fuji films (up to 4X5) and from them I have always received great = slides. =20 In the more remote regions of Bhutan, Shikim and western China, I have = never had=20 any problems with their Xray machines or customs = agents.
 
It seems to me that if your wants or = assignments=20 are so important that you need to shoot 600 rolls of 3200 ASA or = 250 rolls=20 of infrared and, you are not on a self fulfilling lark, you  have = the=20 support of  of a major concern = which should=20 be able to advise customs of your exiting airport of the nature of the = film you=20 are carrying and get you through with little hassle.
 
The bottom line?  IMHO get it = processed as=20 quickly as possible on location. 
 
BTW, some of the toughest customs I = have been=20 through are in Bangladesh and Pakistan.  In both airports, a show = of a lack=20 of concern about what I had, an appropriate Moslem greeting and a quick=20 unzipping of my carry-on bags with +-50 rolls of 120 got a quick "move=20 along".
 
A lot of it boils down to being = organized and=20 street smarts.
 
 
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I find the mispelling of my = country's name to be=20 an affront to Upper Slobovian's everywhere!
 
Leo.
 
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From:=20 bradleya <bradleya@ms54.hinet.net>To:=20 hasselblad@kelvin.net <hasselblad@kelvin.net>
Date:=20 Monday, June 25, 2001 9:48 AM
Subject: airport X-rays = and all=20 that hassle

...far be it from me to chide = someone for=20 wanting to shoot 200 rolls of
infrared film in Upper Slobvovia = and then want=20 the Joe Blow at the Xray to have sympathy on=20 them...
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Alle von uns an unsere Kunden gerichteten Meinungen oder Empfehlungen i= n dieser E-Mail stehen als Beratungsleistung im Zusammenhang mit den Gesch=E4ftsbedingungen aus unseren Klientenvertr=E4gen oder -vereinbaru= ngen. Falls Sie diese E-Mail irrt=FCmlich erhalten haben, leiten Sie sie bitt= e weiter an: postmaster@deekeling.de .= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:55:22 -0700 (PDT) From: S Gardner To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Airport X-rays vs. Post Office Message-ID: <20010625145522.92609.qmail@web12308.mail.yahoo.com> Wow! Glad I took only a digicam on our last trip. Don't *think* microdrives are affected by x-rays . . . Actually, on the way out, I made a pic of the security officer to prove what I had was a camera. He responded very positively when he saw himself on the LCD. Flattery, vanity are a potent combo. That said, I try to understand both sides of the equation. These folks are not being paid much to make sure some nut with a weapon doesn't make it onto a plane and end up killing innocent people. Sadly, the tiny percentage of people who would do such a thing create a lot of inconvenience for the vast majority who would never even consider hurting other people. Enough of that. On to some Hasselblad content. > Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 15:42:55 -0700 > From: Jim Brick > To: hasselblad@kelvin.net > Subject: Re: Airport X-rays vs. Post Office > Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010624154154.05e660f0@pop.alink.net> > > At 11:27 AM 6/24/01 -0700, you wrote: > >YEs, it was me...CDG securite' is unrelenting...they wouldn't even > listen to > >me regarding infrared film....it was all ruined...rude and > insensitive....Ii > >also had some things send from Amsterdam to U.S....it was also > fogged > >up..... > > I got a hand inspection of 128 rolls of film in Amsterdam, with > AK47's > standing by... > > Jim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:51:42 -0700 (PDT) From: S Gardner To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Inconsistent synch? Message-ID: <20010625155142.66095.qmail@web12302.mail.yahoo.com> I seem to be getting inconsistent flash synch performance and would appreciate any insights. This occurred with a 500ELX, 100mm Planar C, Metz 60 CT4 with SCA 390 set to TTL. 400VC with camera ISO set to 320. Exposure was ~1/4 sec at F/5.6. In all cases, the flash fired, but in a series of images no fill is visible, just ambient exposure. The lever *is* set to X and other flash images made with this lens have proper fill. Any suggestions? TIA/Scott Gardner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:42:39 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: Airport X-rays vs. Post Office Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010625164147.048ea5f0@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:30 AM 06/25/2001, you wrote: >I got a hand inspection of 128 rolls of film in Amsterdam, with AK47's >standing by... If I brought AK47s with me, I suspect I could get pretty much anything I wanted, including free upgrades to first class. henry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:19:35 -0700 (PDT) From: R Barr To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Airport X-rays vs. Post Office Message-ID: <5593748.993503975874.JavaMail.imail@bronty> I considered that option, but with only six days in Paris, I still have stuff to shoot. With all the picky processing I do and the 80 rolls that need it, I don't think I can afford it. I thought of buying the tanks and reels, but that too would take all my time. _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:41:53 -0400 From: "Peter Klosky" To: Subject: Re: Airport X-rays vs. Post Office Message-ID: <00dd01c0fdbf$a6660aa0$230a210a@dulles> I see what you are saying. A city the size of Paris ought to have the capability to process some rolls of slides and send them along. While the laws in France concerning photo chemicals are not exactly the same as here, my understanding is that photofinishing is, none the less, available. In my own experience, Paris is a city with an interest in art, film and photography. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:42:04 -0700 (PDT) From: R Barr To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: airport X-rays and all that hassle Message-ID: <8921659.993505324234.JavaMail.imail@bronty> > I (again the disclaimer about time constraints) always develop my chromes in the country where I have shot them and then I know if I got what I wanted or not. If it is reshootable, I go back. If not, I lick my wounds and go on my way. > > Fortunately, If I travel to another country I always plan to stay for several weeks or a few months and arrange to have my chromes processed locally. > > A lot of it boils down to being organized and street smarts. > It must be nice to spend that kind of time in those places. I, unfortunately, am not afforded such luxuries. Nor, do I want to carry 4 binders full of processed slides in my backpack. As for the street smarts, that was my initial reason for posting it to this forum. I have not yet experienced difficult situations at airports, knock on wood. I thank those that added useful comments. _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #1269 ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. 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