hasselblad Thu, 28 Jun 2001 Volume 1 : Number 1271 In this issue: Re: help. market value of 50 Distagon CF RE: market value of 50 Distagon CF Re: help. Re: help. Re: RE: help. Re: help. Best Lens Cleaner? Re: help. Re: help. Re: help. Re: help. MINT unused 80mm CFE for $1149 RE: help. RE: Best Lens Cleaner? RE: help. Re: help. Re: Best Lens Cleaner? ClearSight Re: help. Re: Best Lens Cleaner? ClearSight Re: help. Re: help. Prepare to load. Handle cartridge. Bite cartridge..... Re: help. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 08:53:04 -0500 From: "Waldo Berry" To: Subject: Re: help. Message-ID: Sounds like your film is either miss inserted and riding or binding in the = back. Sometimes. if your not careful, the film paper leader will crincle = up when you insert the insert. I always use two fingers to guide the = film. Put your insert in and remove the back. If the body operates and = advances fine without the back, then it's prabably the film or the insert. = You will loose a frame, but open the dark slide and see iff the film is = cricled babdly on te edge. If not, then you may have something in the = back mechanism, paper wrap, or the gears are binding. Wind up the film = and remove it and inspect the back. if it's used or hasn't been serviced = in a while, you may need to have that done. Waldo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:26:08 -0700 From: "bradleya" To: Subject: market value of 50 Distagon CF Message-ID: <001001c10064$71b06600$7301a8c0@hometrain.com.tw> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C10029.B5AA98C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone have a close figure on a 50 Distagon CF in mint condition? = How much should a seller realistically expect to get for one and how = much should a buyer expect to pay for one? Brad Vance ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C10029.B5AA98C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone have a close figure on a 50 = Distagon=20 CF in mint condition?  How much should a seller realistically = expect=20 to get for one and how much should a buyer expect to pay for = one?
 
Brad Vance
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C10029.B5AA98C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:43:40 -0400 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: market value of 50 Distagon CF Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C0FEFE.696B1E70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would say between $1500 and $1800...depending on your sale venue, and if you have box, caps, shade etc. You can check eBay. One thing eBay is, is an excellent source for price information. -----Original Message----- From: bradleya [mailto:bradleya@ms54.hinet.net] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 2:26 AM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: market value of 50 Distagon CF Does anyone have a close figure on a 50 Distagon CF in mint condition? How much should a seller realistically expect to get for one and how much should a buyer expect to pay for one? Brad Vance ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C0FEFE.696B1E70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=20 would say between $1500 and $1800...depending on your sale venue, and if = you=20 have box, caps, shade etc.  You can check eBay.  One thing = eBay is, is=20 an excellent source for price information.
-----Original Message-----
From: bradleya=20 [mailto:bradleya@ms54.hinet.net]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 = 2:26=20 AM
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: market value = of 50=20 Distagon CF

Does anyone have a close figure on a = 50 Distagon=20 CF in mint condition?  How much should a seller = realistically expect=20 to get for one and how much should a buyer expect to pay for = one?
 
Brad = Vance
------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C0FEFE.696B1E70-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:33:38 EDT From: MaxineKim1@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: help. Message-ID: thanks- I couldn't even get the film insert out--the film wouldn't rewind, the shutter got jammed--it turned into a complete nightmare. I did however get a tip from someone on a previous request who recommended pro-cam in ohio/ ray to look at my hassel. The two shops in mass. who were registered techs. were backed up for weeks, were total alarmists and jerks on top of it. ray told me that it probably wasn't serious, and that if I sent it out, he would look at it the day it came in. sometimes living on the east coast sucks. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:43:54 EDT From: MaxineKim1@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: help. Message-ID: thanks, see note to w.berry. I spent hours online and ended up upset with how many people end up getting jams and mechanical quirks with this system. It is definitely the film jammed in the insert/the shutter is fine, I can remove the mag from the back, but I can't remove the film out of the mag. a friend with a mamiya system mentioned that this type of stuff never ever happens to him. am i going to end up with a completely quirky system that jams up from time to time? How great is it to tinker with your camera/ hassel. usa told me on the phone that they were strongly against it. maybe I was talking to the wrong tech. I found the page with the step by step to fix a hard jam and a light jam. It might work, but it seems pretty ridiculous that such a elite system would be so quirky. m. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:45:56 EDT From: MaxineKim1@aol.com To: cbmaurin@earthlink.net, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: RE: help. Message-ID: <26.17673448.286b75d4@aol.com> thanks, i've got it--I called them/they just wanted me to sent both mag and body in. maybe i didn't get the right tech. m ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:52:09 -0400 From: "Peter Klosky" To: Subject: Re: help. Message-ID: <000e01c0ff31$f43e0700$230a210a@dulles> Maxine, Glad to hear you've found someone to work on it. My experience has been that when they jam, they will jam again, as they really need adjustment. I've lived on the East Coast most all my life. I don't think it is the worst of all places, when it comes to buying cameras and having them serviced. I agree that there are several jerks out there, and also the Hasselblad USA is expensive, but these are not the only acts in town, so to speak. I've used a fellow in Baltimore, Peter Whedbee, who was suggested by a list member, and found him prompt and efficient. Also, there are several technicians in the NYC area who are good. There are several defenses to the problems you are having. Of course, having a plan as to what you will do when a jam happens is important, as it will happen, when an assignment or contract is immenently due. In my case, I have a backup camera loaded and standing by at all times when I am working, and even bring it into play for important shots, to be sure of getting a result. I even keep a backup to the backup, so I can still continue to my next job, even if some gear is off at the shop. An alternative backup plan is to rent, borrow or buy a camera when you have a problem. In cases like this, I don't find the populous East Coast so bad, as there are excellent photographers keeping camera stores on nearly every corner. Of course, your plan to use carriers like FedEx and the USPS also works, when you have the time. I like to patronize a dealer who keeps a nearby shop open on weekends, so he is there when I am wanting prompt service. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:33 PM Subject: Re: help. > thanks- > I couldn't even get the film insert out--the film wouldn't rewind, the > shutter got jammed--it turned into a complete nightmare. I did however get a > tip from someone on a previous request who recommended pro-cam in ohio/ ray > to look at my hassel. The two shops in mass. who were registered techs. > were backed up for weeks, were total alarmists and jerks on top of it. > ray told me that it probably wasn't serious, and that if I sent it out, he > would look at it the day it came in. > sometimes living on the east coast sucks. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:54:17 -0500 From: "dro239" To: Subject: Best Lens Cleaner? Message-ID: <001601c0ff32$307c6400$a02f88cf@ducelightning> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0FF08.4685D0D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What is best lens cleaner for coated lenses? Thank you. Don R. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0FF08.4685D0D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What is best lens cleaner for coated=20 lenses?
 
Thank you.
 
Don R.
------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0FF08.4685D0D0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:57:16 -0400 From: "Peter Klosky" To: Subject: Re: help. Message-ID: <001f01c0ff32$9e838140$230a210a@dulles> > I spent hours online and ended up upset with how many people end up getting > jams and mechanical quirks with this system. it seems pretty ridiculous that such a elite system would be > so quirky. This has been the topic of debate. My experience is entirely consistent with your observations and experience; they are quirky. Some folks feel the nature of the design, with the removable backs, prisms and lenses contributes to the problem, and that a more "solid brick" style camera would tend to be more reliable. What keeps me with the system is the interchangeable backs and the leaf shutters. Peter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:13:18 -0700 From: helenadick@worldnet.att.net To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: help. Message-ID: <3B3A223E.7529B704@worldnet.att.net> MaxineKim1@aol.com wrote: > > thanks- > I couldn't even get the film insert out--the film wouldn't rewind, the > shutter got jammed--it turned into a complete nightmare. I did however get a > tip from someone on a previous request who recommended pro-cam in ohio/ ray > to look at my hassel. The two shops in mass. who were registered techs. > were backed up for weeks, were total alarmists and jerks on top of it. > ray told me that it probably wasn't serious, and that if I sent it out, he > would look at it the day it came in. > sometimes living on the east coast sucks. Take the magazine off the body then pull the darkslide from the magazine. Push down on the pressure plate at the crank side and your insert will come out. What has happened is that the little aluminum tab that you tuck the film under has become bent and has to be replaced. There is a little tab on the bottom of this piece that gets bent or broken. If bent, do not try to straighten, it as it will break. This is a very easy and fast fix. Just remove the four screws that hold your pressure plate, and you will find 2 screws on the back of the pressure plate that holds the aluminum tab. You can call Hasselblad and get the new part shipped to you almost immediately. -- _______________________________ Dick Werner 112 South Brighton St. Burbank, Ca., 91506 (818) 845-4667 helenadick@worldnet.att.net http://home.att.net/~blackbird711/manual.txt _______________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:18:38 -0400 From: "Paul Clark" To: Subject: Re: help. Message-ID: <200106271418.AA524784@paulclarkphotography.com> Once again Dick has affirmed my belief that Hassleblad users are the most-generous when it comes to sharing their knowledge. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: helenadick@worldnet.att.net Reply-to: hasselblad@kelvin.net Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:13:18 -0700 Take the magazine off the body ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at paulclarkphotography.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:25:12 -0500 From: "Waldo Berry" To: Subject: Re: help. Message-ID: Way to go Dick, I knew you would know what to do. Waldo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:27:24 -0700 From: "Hanson Photography" To: "Hasselblad@Kelvin. Net" Subject: MINT unused 80mm CFE for $1149 Message-ID: Still trying to get the 30mm for the XPAN... 80mm f2.8 CFE Absolutely new and unused. I have two, and this one has never been used. Came with 2nd kit. Front and rear caps. Works with both 500 and 200 series cameras. Email me directly if interested. I'll pay for insured shipping to US addresses. Thanks, Bradley b r a d l e y h a n s o n Seattle, WA http://www.hansonphotography.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:32:59 -0400 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: help. Message-ID: > > > I spent hours online and ended up upset with how many people end up > getting > > jams and mechanical quirks with this system. it seems pretty ridiculous > that such a elite system would be > > so quirky. > > This has been the topic of debate. My experience is entirely consistent > with your observations and experience; they are quirky. In the over 20 years I've been using them, and well into the 100k images taken with them, I have never ever had any problem at all! No jams, no nothing. What I do believe is people use the hell out of them and don't have them serviced appropriately! The jams seem to be caused mostly with the C lenses, which are of course, older, and probably more worn. There is a little catch that, if worn so it doesn't catch as well as it should, lets go and trips the shutter. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:34:09 -0400 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: Best Lens Cleaner? Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C0FF16.3A41AD40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Clear Sight. As recommended by other members of this, and other, groups...get the microfibre cloths too. -----Original Message----- From: dro239 [mailto:dro239@airmail.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:54 PM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Best Lens Cleaner? What is best lens cleaner for coated lenses? Thank you. Don R. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C0FF16.3A41AD40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Clear=20 Sight.
 
As=20 recommended by other members of this, and other, groups...get the = microfibre=20 cloths too.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: dro239=20 [mailto:dro239@airmail.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 = 1:54=20 PM
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Subject: Best Lens=20 Cleaner?

What is best lens cleaner for coated=20 lenses?
 
Thank you.
 
Don = R.
------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C0FF16.3A41AD40-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:36:07 -0400 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: help. Message-ID: > I spent hours online and ended up upset with how many people end > up getting > jams and mechanical quirks with this system. Where, online, did you find this? There are a few that I have seen, but given the number of people who use them, and that people typically only post when they have a problem, I would believe the number is not that great. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:36:31 -0400 (EDT) From: shino@ubspainewebber.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: help. Message-ID: <200106271836.OAA26831@tigercat.pwj.com> i am an amateur, and probably put thru less than 50 rolls per year, so take my advice for what it is. but in my 15 years of ownership, i find hasselblads--some new and some used--has proven reliable. on the one or two cases when things have gone wrong, i've taken it to people i've trusted, and the problems were fixed once and for all. i once did buy a used 500c and 12 back--that WAS quirky. the lens jammed on the body if you didn't release the shutter just right. i brought it back to the sellers a comple of times before finally exchanging it for a new 500CM. i do think hasselblads are very complex machines that do require some close tolerances between the various components. some used ones may have had gone through some very rough usage, and others may have been incorrectly repaired or adjusted. i bought a 503CW used and it took a couple of trips to PCR (below) to get it just right. but when hasselblads are in a correctly state of tune, they are very reliable. mine, at least, does not "jam up from time to time." by the way, i am an east coaster and i can recommend: professional camera repair service, inc 37 west 47th street new york, ny 10036 (212) 382-0550 -rei > From: MaxineKim1@aol.com > > I spent hours online and ended up upset with how many people end up getting > jams and mechanical quirks with this system. It is definitely the film > jammed in the insert/the shutter is fine, I can remove the mag from the back, > but I can't remove the film out of the mag. a friend with a mamiya system > mentioned that this type of stuff never ever happens to him. am i going to > end up with a completely quirky system that jams up from time to time? How > great is it to tinker with your camera/ hassel. usa told me on the phone > that they were strongly against it. maybe I was talking to the wrong tech. > I found the page with the step by step to fix a hard jam and a light jam. It > might work, but it seems pretty ridiculous that such a elite system would be > so quirky. > m. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:15:48 -0700 From: "Joe Codispoti" To: Subject: Re: Best Lens Cleaner? ClearSight Message-ID: <012c01c0ff3d$9b8a6480$33d9efd1@joe> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0129_01C0FF02.E646A1E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don, all LUG (Leica Users Group) members who have tried ClearSight have = agreed that it is a superior product. Take a look at the ClearSight page for all info regarding lens cleaning = products as well as cleaning procedure/hints. http://www.thegrid.net/joecodi/clearsight.html Joe Codispoti ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dro239=20 To: hasselblad@kelvin.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 10:54 AM Subject: Best Lens Cleaner? What is best lens cleaner for coated lenses? Thank you. Don R. ------=_NextPart_000_0129_01C0FF02.E646A1E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Don,
 
all LUG (Leica Users Group) members who = have tried=20 ClearSight have agreed that it is a superior product.
Take a look at the ClearSight page for = all info=20 regarding lens cleaning products as well as cleaning=20 procedure/hints.
 
http://www.thegri= d.net/joecodi/clearsight.html
 
Joe Codispoti
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 dro239
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 = 10:54=20 AM
Subject: Best Lens = Cleaner?

What is best lens cleaner for coated=20 lenses?
 
Thank you.
 
Don = R.
------=_NextPart_000_0129_01C0FF02.E646A1E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:02:44 -0400 From: "Eugene A. Pallat" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: help. Message-ID: <3B3A3BE4.E7664D21@apk.net> MaxineKim1@aol.com wrote: > thanks- > I couldn't even get the film insert out--the film wouldn't rewind, the > shutter got jammed--it turned into a complete nightmare. I did however get a > tip from someone on a previous request who recommended pro-cam in ohio/ ray > to look at my hassel. Pro Camera's phone number is (216) 661-8666. Cleveland, Ohio area. Gene Pallat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:12:35 -0700 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net, Subject: Re: Best Lens Cleaner? ClearSight Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010627141125.01f6b040@xsj02.sjs.agilent.com> --=====================_163954393==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:15 PM 6/27/01 -0700, Joe Codispoti wrote: >Don, > >all LUG (Leica Users Group) members who have tried ClearSight have agreed >that it is a superior product. >Take a look at the ClearSight page for all info regarding lens cleaning >products as well as cleaning procedure/hints. > >http://www.thegrid.net/joecodi/clearsight.html > >Joe Codispoti > I agree 100% with this. ClearSight is indeed the best lens cleaner I have ever used. And I have used everything over the past 50 years! Jim --=====================_163954393==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 12:15 PM 6/27/01 -0700, Joe Codispoti wrote:
Don,
 
all LUG (Leica Users Group) members who have tried ClearSight have agreed that it is a superior product.
Take a look at the ClearSight page for all info regarding lens cleaning products as well as cleaning procedure/hints.
 
http://www.thegrid.net/joecodi/clearsight.html
 
Joe Codispoti
 


I agree 100% with this. ClearSight is indeed the best lens cleaner I have ever used. And I have used everything over the past 50 years!

Jim --=====================_163954393==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:13:44 -0700 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: help. Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010627135846.01f734e0@xsj02.sjs.agilent.com> At 01:43 PM 6/27/01 -0400, MaxineKim1@aol.com wrote: >I spent hours online and ended up upset with how many people end up getting >jams and mechanical quirks with this system. It is definitely the film >jammed in the insert/the shutter is fine, I can remove the mag from the back, >but I can't remove the film out of the mag. a friend with a mamiya system >mentioned that this type of stuff never ever happens to him. am i going to >end up with a completely quirky system that jams up from time to time? How >great is it to tinker with your camera/ hassel. usa told me on the phone >that they were strongly against it. maybe I was talking to the wrong tech. >I found the page with the step by step to fix a hard jam and a light jam. It >might work, but it seems pretty ridiculous that such a elite system would be >so quirky. >m. I began using Hasselblad in the early 60's. Two 500C's, a 503CW, and a 203FE. Over the years I have run thousands of rolls of film, changed backs, lenses, finders, etc, tens of thousands of times, and I have never experienced a system lockup that was not my own doing. And since it was my own doing, I was always able to clear it up in short order. I have never experienced a system failure lockup. I suspect that your friend could jam the film in his Mamiya back by loading it improperly. Once it gets off track in any camera, it can jam and bind-up and keep parts from being moved or removed. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:52:07 EDT From: BLADHASS@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: help. Message-ID: --part1_bf.1017a41e.286bbd97_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/27/01 2:08:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jim_brick@agilent.com writes: > I suspect that your friend could jam the film in his Mamiya back by loading > it improperly. Once it gets off track in any camera, it can jam and bind-up > and keep parts from being moved or removed. > > We had a guy years ago load the film so it ran over the back of the Hasselblad insert. Now think about how dumb that person was, or we were the dumb people for hiring him. Plus we just had a guy load a Bronica backwards. Peter --part1_bf.1017a41e.286bbd97_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/27/01 2:08:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
jim_brick@agilent.com writes:


I suspect that your friend could jam the film in his Mamiya back by loading
it improperly. Once it gets off track in any camera, it can jam and bind-up
and keep parts from being moved or removed.

Jim


We had a guy years ago load the film so it ran over the back of the
Hasselblad insert. Now think about how dumb that person was, or we were the
dumb people for hiring him. Plus we just had a guy load a Bronica backwards.
Peter --part1_bf.1017a41e.286bbd97_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 07:17:01 +0800 From: "Stein" To: Subject: Prepare to load. Handle cartridge. Bite cartridge..... Message-ID: <004501c0ff5f$45e22b40$86b237cb@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C0FFA2.536E5B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Freinds, The loading or unloading of cameras has always been a source of = amazement and/or amusement for me. I used to work in a camera store = during my student days and as I was the junior, I was given the simple = tasks to do. Like cope with the lunchtime arguers, the Leica fans, or = the first-time purchasers of point and shoot cameras. These were the halcyon days of the Agfa Rapid cassette or the 126 = Kodapak. The time spent explaining the difference betwen the two systems = to the punters....To make it worse there was the Polaroid systems at the = time and the confusion between Instamatic and instant results was an = ugly thing to cope with. Anyway there was this lady who brought in a Kodak Instamatic - one = of the British-produced examples - with the door firmly jammed. " It = won't go ". No, it wouldn't. You wouldn't either if your owner had = managed to jam a 126 cartidge upside down into you. If you have an old = Instamatic and a 126 open it up and look at what she did and marvel = along with us. Please don't think I am caning the ladies about their film handling = skills. We had men who regularly brought their Canonet 17's back in to = have us re-attach the film to the spool in the 35mm cartridge so that it = could be rewound. In one case I suspect he thought that that was the = standard procedure - take camera to shop for loading, take pictures, rip = film off spool, take camera back to shop for reload. And remember folks, if you have the time and the power in your = fingers, there are 4 ways to insert a Super 8 cartridge into a camera. = One of them is suspiciously easy but the other 3 make satisfying sounds = as you close the film door. I wonder what they can do to videos and digitals these days. With my = temper, it is as well that I am not behind the counter anymore. Uncle Dick PS: Pardon the long pause between posts but I have been moving my = surgery. They are on to me at the old one.... =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C0FFA2.536E5B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Freinds,
 
    The loading or = unloading of=20 cameras has always been a source of amazement and/or amusement for me. I = used to=20 work in a camera store during my student days and as I was the = junior, I=20 was given the simple tasks to do. Like cope with the lunchtime arguers, = the=20 Leica fans, or the first-time purchasers of point and shoot=20 cameras.
 
     These were the = halcyon=20 days of the Agfa Rapid cassette or the 126 Kodapak. The time spent = explaining=20 the difference betwen the two systems to the punters....To make it worse = there=20 was the Polaroid systems at the time and the confusion between = Instamatic and=20 instant results was an ugly thing to cope with.
 
     Anyway there = was this lady=20 who brought in a Kodak Instamatic - one of the British-produced examples = - with=20 the door firmly jammed. " It won't go ". No, it wouldn't. You wouldn't = either if=20 your owner had managed to jam a 126 cartidge upside down into you. If = you have=20 an old Instamatic and a 126 open it up and look at what she did and = marvel along=20 with us.
 
    Please don't = think I am=20 caning the ladies about their film handling skills. We had men who = regularly=20 brought their Canonet 17's back in to have us re-attach the film to the = spool in=20 the 35mm cartridge so that it could be rewound. In one case I = suspect he=20 thought that that was the standard procedure - take camera to shop for = loading,=20 take pictures, rip film off spool, take camera back to shop for=20 reload.
 
    And remember folks, = if you have=20 the time and the power in your fingers, there are 4 ways to insert a = Super 8=20 cartridge into a camera. One of them is suspiciously easy but the other = 3 make=20 satisfying sounds as you close the film door.
 
    I wonder what they = can do to=20 videos and digitals these days. With my temper, it is as well that I am = not=20 behind the counter anymore.
 
     Uncle = Dick
 
PS: Pardon the long pause between posts = but I=20 have been moving my surgery. They are on to me at the old = one....
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C0FFA2.536E5B60-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 23:41:35 -0400 From: "LEO WOLK" To: Subject: Re: help. Message-ID: <01c0ff84$3b0abfa0$d966570c@fofyplfq> YES, EVERYBODY PLEASE send all your Hasselblad repairs to New York. Pro-Cam in Cleveland SUCKS. DO NOT send your repairs to Ray at Pro-Cam (If he gets any busier, he may never get all my work done!) Good Luck, Leo. -----Original Message----- From: shino@ubspainewebber.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 2:37 PM Subject: Re: help. >i am an amateur, and probably put thru less than 50 rolls per year, >so take my advice for what it is. > >but in my 15 years of ownership, i find hasselblads--some new and some >used--has proven reliable. on the one or two cases when things have >gone wrong, i've taken it to people i've trusted, and the problems >were fixed once and for all. > >i once did buy a used 500c and 12 back--that WAS quirky. the lens >jammed on the body if you didn't release the shutter just right. >i brought it back to the sellers a comple of times before finally >exchanging it for a new 500CM. > >i do think hasselblads are very complex machines that do require some close >tolerances between the various components. some used ones may have >had gone through some very rough usage, and others may have been incorrectly >repaired or adjusted. i bought a 503CW used and it took a couple of trips >to PCR (below) to get it just right. but when hasselblads are in a >correctly state of tune, they are very reliable. mine, at least, does >not "jam up from time to time." > >by the way, i am an east coaster and i can recommend: > >professional camera repair service, inc >37 west 47th street >new york, ny 10036 >(212) 382-0550 > >-rei > > >> From: MaxineKim1@aol.com > >> >> I spent hours online and ended up upset with how many people end up getting >> jams and mechanical quirks with this system. It is definitely the film >> jammed in the insert/the shutter is fine, I can remove the mag from the back, >> but I can't remove the film out of the mag. a friend with a mamiya system >> mentioned that this type of stuff never ever happens to him. am i going to >> end up with a completely quirky system that jams up from time to time? How >> great is it to tinker with your camera/ hassel. usa told me on the phone >> that they were strongly against it. maybe I was talking to the wrong tech. >> I found the page with the step by step to fix a hard jam and a light jam. It >> might work, but it seems pretty ridiculous that such a elite system would be >> so quirky. >> m. >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > >Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > >To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad >Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm >Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #1271 ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html