hasselblad Thu, 12 Jul 2001 Volume 1 : Number 1285 In this issue: Polaroid Explores Debt Restructuring [OT] Re: Approaching "street people" Re: Approaching "street people" Re: Approaching "street people" Re: Street People and the good doctor OT: Old chemicals Re: Street People and the good doctor Re: Polaroid Explores Debt Restructuring [OT] Re: Street People Re: OT: Old chemicals Hassie repairs fs: 50mm Re: Hassie repairs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:16:37 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: (Recipient list suppressed) Subject: Polaroid Explores Debt Restructuring [OT] Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010711091258.048ccf00@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> Read http://public.wsj.com/news/businessbox/article1.html from the Wall Street Journal about Polaroid's financial difficulties. The article says Polaroid, "...is giving serious consideration to a voluntary filing for bankruptcy-court protection..." There was also an article on Polaroid in the NY Times of July 1, 2001 titled, "Polaroid makes a digital leap, but is it enough?" The NY Times web site is www.nytimes.com. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:24:56 -0400 From: Bernard Ferster To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Approaching "street people" Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010711092117.009f2120@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> CAREFUL! In New York commercial use of a photo requires permission. News photos do not. It is the use of the photo that controls. See Civil Rights Law. Perhaps there is a different rule in each jurisdiction. Practice safe photographing! At 10:59 AM 7/9/01 -0400, you wrote: >I think there is more to the story than this. I've had hundreds of news >photographs published, and never once requested a model release from the >folks. My best understanding is that if the person is on public property, >or even at an event open to the public, one is welcome to photograph them, >produce hundreds of thousands of copies, and sell them on the corner. > >Peter > > > >First, be aware of copyright problems. Get a release from ANYONE whose > > >picture you will sell. > > > > Copyright is not the issue. A model release is. > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute >Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing >list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, >or affiliates. > >Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use >text mode only. > >To change your subscription status, go to: >http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad >Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm >Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html .........................B.F.......................... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:29:25 -0400 From: Bernard Ferster To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Approaching "street people" Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010711092755.009f4870@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> The image of the ball player is owned by the ball club. They have even attempted to charge newspapers for the use of photos taken by the papers photographers!

At 11:50 PM 7/9/01 -0400, you wrote:

What about an image of a professional ballplayer taken at a major league
park? Can it be sold by the photographer? It would be most difficult to
secure a model release under these circumstances. Are they protected under a
major league "copyright" of some sort?

.........................B.F.......................... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:34:00 -0400 From: Bernard Ferster To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Approaching "street people" Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010711093332.009fc820@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> And none of them can take a friendly josh. Sad! At 07:33 AM 7/10/01 -0700, you wrote: >At 10:10 AM 7/10/01 -0400, Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video wrote: >>At 03:54 AM 07/10/2001, you wrote: > > > >>>What if the child is in a public place, doing something newsworthy (e.g. >>>throwing a beer bottle at the President)? >> >>Do you mean a real president, or that Texan who was inadvertently >>appointed president by the Supreme Court? >>(My opinion, not my employer's) >> >>hp > > >When I think of B&H, I think of you, as you are the only human that I know >associated with B&H. > >Your statement above was not only inappropriate for the Hasselblad Users >Group, but it is unfortunate in that it will taint my decision each time I >think about ordering something from B&H. > >Jim > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute >Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing >list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, >or affiliates. > >Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use >text mode only. > >To change your subscription status, go to: >http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad >Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm >Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html .........................B.F.......................... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:16:52 +0800 From: "Stein" To: , Subject: Re: Street People and the good doctor Message-ID: <005f01c10a14$50743020$6fb237cb@oemcomputer> Dear Ms. Finn and all the others, This may not be the best evening for me to be posting advice on photographic or political matters - I have spent the best part of a week dealing with a firm that supplies fine quality dental equipment from a major manufacturing nation in Europe. The products are thoroughly researched and elegantly designed and are sold by a very large electrical manufacturer indeed. It is somewhat of a pity that the products do not work and cannot be made to work but then I may be expecting too much. They are beautifully designed. At least the technicians have the right attitude. If something doesn't work fresh out of the box they send to Sydney and get another box. If there are no light bulbs in Perth they send to Sydney for light bulbs. If there is no circuit diagram they send to....I was going to ask them what they are going to have for lunch tomorrow but it hasn't arrived yet on the plane. At least the local manufacturers are on the ball. The 8-ball. I asked for an equipment stand to be powder coated and ready for this afternoon. Upon being informed that it wouldn't be done for days ( Sound of ripping hair ) I tore around town to see if I could organise a substitute. I couldn't. Apparently they stopped making steel tubing in the 1920's and the world has run out of supplies. Aluminium hasn't been invented yet - may never be. Wood is a possibility but you can't get the wood - the War, you know. Then on the off chance I rang the original power coaters to see when it WOULD be ready and was told that it was waiting for me. ( Sound of hair being glued back on) So you see any comment I could make on an American President or on the business of photographing him would be a hollow thing. I have lost touch with artistry and competancy and reality and am only tenuously clinging to good humour. And if I lose that.... They'll send to Sydney for a replacement. Uncle Dick PS: Lighten up on the politics, friends. Reflect that it could be worse. We could send you our Prime Minister and not include return postage. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:51:55 -0500 From: "Les Alvis" To: "Hasselblad List" Subject: OT: Old chemicals Message-ID: <006301c10a15$ce7bb7d0$527fbdcc@LESLAPTOP> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C109E6.BCA4A780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been given several containers of Microdol-X mix. Some is in = cans, some is in paper packets, all are powder mixes. This stuff is = very old. I'd guess the cans are at least 30 years old. All containers = are intact, no holes, leaks, etc. Is this stuff any good? Does unmixed = powder like this have a shelf life? Les Alvis ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C109E6.BCA4A780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have been given several = containers of=20 Microdol-X mix. Some is in cans, some is in paper packets, all are = powder=20 mixes. This stuff is very old. I'd guess the cans are at = least 30=20 years old. All containers are intact, no holes, leaks, etc. = Is this=20 stuff any good? Does unmixed powder like this have a shelf=20 life?

Les Alvis

------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C109E6.BCA4A780-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:51:35 -0400 From: "LEO WOLK" To: "Stein" , Subject: Re: Street People and the good doctor Message-ID: <01c10a18$fb4cece0$7865570c@fofyplfq> Perhaps it is a GOOD THING, after all, that they banned handguns in Australia. Of course, you'd have to send to Sydney for ammunition! Good Luck, Leo. -----Original Message----- From: Stein To: johnfinnswife@angelfire.com ; hasselblad@kelvin.net Date: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Street People and the good doctor >Dear Ms. Finn and all the others, > > This may not be the best evening for me to be posting advice on >photographic or political matters - I have spent the best part of a week >dealing with a firm that supplies fine quality dental equipment from a major >manufacturing nation in Europe. The products are thoroughly researched and >elegantly designed and are sold by a very large electrical manufacturer >indeed. It is somewhat of a pity that the products do not work and cannot be >made to work but then I may be expecting too much. They are beautifully >designed. > > At least the technicians have the right attitude. If something doesn't >work fresh out of the box they send to Sydney and get another box. If there >are no light bulbs in Perth they send to Sydney for light bulbs. If there is >no circuit diagram they send to....I was going to ask them what they are >going to have for lunch tomorrow but it hasn't arrived yet on the plane. > > At least the local manufacturers are on the ball. The 8-ball. I asked >for an equipment stand to be powder coated and ready for this afternoon. >Upon being informed that it wouldn't be done for days ( Sound of ripping >hair ) I tore around town to see if I could organise a substitute. I >couldn't. Apparently they stopped making steel tubing in the 1920's and the >world has run out of supplies. Aluminium hasn't been invented yet - may >never be. Wood is a possibility but you can't get the wood - the War, you >know. Then on the off chance I rang the original power coaters to see when >it WOULD be ready and was told that it was waiting for me. ( Sound of hair >being glued back on) > > So you see any comment I could make on an American President or on the >business of photographing him would be a hollow thing. I have lost touch >with artistry and competancy and reality and am only tenuously clinging to >good humour. And if I lose that.... > > They'll send to Sydney for a replacement. > > Uncle Dick > >PS: Lighten up on the politics, friends. Reflect that it could be worse. We >could send you our Prime Minister and not include return postage. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > >Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > >To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad >Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm >Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:23:15 +0800 From: "Stein" To: Subject: Re: Polaroid Explores Debt Restructuring [OT] Message-ID: <000001c10a22$87c9ce00$8cb237cb@oemcomputer> Dear Friends, Ooh Ah. Does this mean that my Polaroid back that i use for my HB shoots - several shots per session - will go dry for want of film? Say it ain't so, Henry! I am already bemoaning the paucity of 70mm emulsions to feed my 70mm backs. Uncle Dick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:09:05 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: Street People Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010711120736.048f8610@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:55 AM 07/11/2001, you wrote: > I've bookmarked the link to research on >this topic, and did find a tidbit on the Arrington v. New York Times case. >It isn't clear who won how much against whom at this writing, or who paid >the lawyers. I would include the text referring to this case, but it is >copyrighted, so I include a link and the case name. > >http://lawyers.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.rcfp.org/photoguide/index.html The direct link is http://www.rcfp.org/photoguide/index.html which is from The Reporter's Committee For Freedom of the Press. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:39:53 -0700 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net, "Hasselblad List" Subject: Re: OT: Old chemicals Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010711103812.0264d0c0@pop.alink.net> Microdol-X was not any good even when it was new and fresh. Unless you like mushy negatives. Microdol-X and sharpness are oxymoronic. Jim At 08:51 AM 7/11/01 -0500, Les Alvis wrote: >I have been given several containers of Microdol-X mix. Some is in cans, >some is in paper packets, all are powder mixes. This stuff is very >old. I'd guess the cans are at least 30 years old. All containers are >intact, no holes, leaks, etc. Is this stuff any good? Does unmixed >powder like this have a shelf life? > >Les Alvis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:46:25 -0400 From: "cyclist2"@strato.net To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Hassie repairs Message-ID: <200107111846.OAA08444@green.strato.net> Does anyone know anything about Brad Sherman of Mount Holly NJ, who supposedly does Hassie repairs? I got his name and addie last year but haven't used it yet. Wanted to check it out on the list. I want to send my EL/M for a thorough exam and see if it has any serious problems. Thanks. Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 21:14:39 -0500 From: "Tom Miller" To: Subject: fs: 50mm Message-ID: I have a 50mm C Black T*. Comes with Filter Ring Also, A not so nice 1x Haze filter 0 compensation. Coating seems to be bad. Lens glass [front and back] is excellent. Comes with generic rear cap. Overall cosmetics are excellent with exception of two very small marks on barrel. Also hard [metal] Hasselblad shade. Will be happy to send jpeg's upon request. Send email directly to me. Below is link to KEH and a description of lens. http://www.keh.com/shop/SHOWPRODUCT.CFM?CRID=2072930&SKID=HH06000005007N3&SI D=used&BID=HH&CID=06&SOID=N&ISPRICE=1669.0 I am wanting $1350 plus shipping and insurance. http://www.tommillerphotography.com/ Tom Miller Tom Miller Photography 3848 N. 9th Abilene, TX 79603 915-675-0935 email: mailto:tdmill@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:25:08 EDT From: COHIBA7@aol.com To: cyclist2@strato.net, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Hassie repairs Message-ID: <92.17495898.287e80a4@aol.com> --part1_92.17495898.287e80a4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know them but Pro Cam in Cleveland, Ohio is top notch and has received good "press" from some in this group. Good luck. RL Demsey --part1_92.17495898.287e80a4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know them but Pro Cam in Cleveland, Ohio is top notch and has
received good "press" from some in this group.

Good luck.

RL Demsey --part1_92.17495898.287e80a4_boundary-- ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #1285 ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html