hasselblad Wed, 25 Jul 2001 Volume 1 : Number 1298 In this issue: Re: Canadian Customs Practices Re: Canadian Customs Practices Re: 503 CW Basic Operations Lenient Customs or Which Side Is Your Ford Buttered On.... ELM: two pix instead of one. Re: ELM: two pix instead of one. Re: ELM: two pix instead of one. Re: ELM: two pix instead of one. Re: Scanners & Printers RE: Scanners & Printers re: light meter Hasselblad stuff for sale Re: Scanners & Printers Re: Scanners & Printers RE: Scanners & Printers Re: two pix instead of one. Re: Canadian Customs Practices Introducing myself and a question Re: ELM: two pix instead of one. Re: two pix instead of one. Re: Introducing myself and a question Re: Scanners & Printers Re: Introducing myself and a question Re: Scanners & Printers Re: 503 CW Basic Operations Lenient Customs or Which Side Is Your Ford Buttered On.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:24:01 +0800 From: "Stein" To: Subject: Re: Canadian Customs Practices Message-ID: <004b01c1142b$43b3f160$47b237cb@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C1146D.CFC576A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friends, Fascinating!. I also monitor a list that deals with toy trains and = one of the correspondents there mentioned a need for a notarized birth = certificate and ID to gain entry to British Columbia from Washington. = Are you in a grip of a cross-border slanging match between Ottawa and = Washington or are you getting too many unidentifiables trying to escape = north to hide in the woods? We have our own problems here but we are = solving them by parking the illegals out in the desert at Port Hedland = and Woomera until they either cough up their real ID papers or we = conduct the next series of atomic weapon tests. For the record, we do not have a problem with Canadian boat people. = Very few birchbark canoes make it past Wake Island.... ON ANOTHER TOPIC....I have finally figured out why I hate digital, = and it has nothing to do with the fact that I use a Hasselblad and a = colour darkroom. It is because the results of digital pictures in the = newspaper are so blessed dismal. I review the West Australian every = morning as a professional matter - I look in the obituaries to see if I = am included - and the picture quality now that they have issued digital = brownies to the legmen is bleeding woeful. I am reminded of the crudest = of the pencil-retouch jobs that were done for picture paper coverage in = the first World War. The technology may be capable of constructing any = fantasy that we or a third-year graphics art major can imagine, but it = seems to be unable to reproduce a clear picture of a politician kissing = a baby. What they have done to the Indonesian President in the latest = issue would lead to burning busses and rioting in any other part of the = world. Follow my lead. Reject digital. Use a heavy monopod and a slashing = action to fell the next person you see using a digital camera. You know = it is the right thing to do. Uncle Dick ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C1146D.CFC576A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Friends,
 
     Fascinating!. = I also=20 monitor a list that deals with toy trains and one of the correspondents = there=20 mentioned a need for a notarized birth certificate and ID to gain entry = to=20 British Columbia from Washington. Are you in a grip of a cross-border = slanging=20 match between Ottawa and Washington or are you getting too many = unidentifiables=20 trying to escape north to hide in the woods? We have our own problems = here but=20 we are solving them by parking the illegals out in the desert at Port = Hedland=20 and Woomera until they either cough up their real ID papers or we = conduct the=20 next series of atomic weapon tests.
 
    For the record, we = do not have a=20 problem with Canadian boat people. Very few birchbark canoes make it = past Wake=20 Island....
 
    ON ANOTHER = TOPIC....I have=20 finally figured out why I hate digital, and it has nothing to do with = the fact=20 that I use a Hasselblad and a colour darkroom. It is because the results = of=20 digital pictures in the newspaper are so blessed dismal. I review the = West=20 Australian every morning as a professional matter - I look in the = obituaries to=20 see if I am included - and the picture quality now that they have = issued=20 digital brownies to the legmen is bleeding woeful. I am reminded of = the=20 crudest of the pencil-retouch jobs that were done for picture paper = coverage in=20 the first World War. The technology may be capable of constructing=20 any fantasy that we or a third-year graphics art major can imagine, = but it=20 seems to be unable to reproduce a clear picture of a politician kissing = a baby.=20 What they have done to the Indonesian President in the latest issue = would lead=20 to burning busses and rioting in any other part of the = world.
 
    Follow my lead. = Reject digital.=20 Use a heavy monopod and a slashing action to fell the next person you = see using=20 a digital camera. You know it is the right thing to do.
 
     Uncle=20 Dick
------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C1146D.CFC576A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 09:16:07 -0400 From: "LEO WOLK" To: Subject: Re: Canadian Customs Practices Message-ID: <01c11442$cc5f9de0$9c65570c@fofyplfq> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C11421.454DFDE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In his own inimitable way, Dr. Pain has raised a couple of interesting = points. First off, the people 'importation' problems are an IMMIGRATION = issue, and have nothing to do with the transfer of goods across the = border, which is the domain of CUSTOMS. Generally Canadian Customs are = quite lenient. Canada is the USA's largest trading partner, and I'd = guess both sides of the border know what side of their bread is = buttered. Immigragion is a WHOLE different story. Immigration policies generally = reflect the attitudes of the current administration. I travel to Canada = quite a bit, and I've experience Immigration problems recently, also. = Usually this a reaction by the generally compliant Canadians to some = STUPID policy the Americans have put in place. A couple of years ago, = someone at the US State Dept. decided that ALL Canadians should show a = passport at the border. Well these borders have been basically 'open' = for 300 years! So the Canadians did what any civilised nation would do, = they put a retaliatory policy in place! All Americans MUST show a = passport to enter Canada! Unfortunately most Americans don't HAVE a = passport, and wouldn't know how to get one! So after a few days of = that, US Immigration quietly rescinded the order. I'd guess that the = current Canadian Immigration problems are of that nature. =20 Good Luck, Leo. -----Original Message----- From: Stein To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:26 AM Subject: Re: Canadian Customs Practices =20 =20 Dear Friends, =20 Fascinating!. I also monitor a list that deals with toy trains = and one of the correspondents there mentioned a need for a notarized = birth certificate and ID to gain entry to British Columbia from = Washington. Are you in a grip of a cross-border slanging match between = Ottawa and Washington or are you getting too many unidentifiables trying = to escape north to hide in the woods? We have our own problems here but = we are solving them by parking the illegals out in the desert at Port = Hedland and Woomera until they either cough up their real ID papers or = we conduct the next series of atomic weapon tests..... =20 Uncle Dick ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C11421.454DFDE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In his own inimitable way, Dr. Pain = has raised a=20 couple of interesting points.  First off, the people 'importation' = problems=20 are an IMMIGRATION issue, and have nothing to do with the transfer of = goods=20 across the border, which is the domain of CUSTOMS.  Generally = Canadian=20 Customs are quite lenient.  Canada is the USA's largest trading = partner,=20 and I'd guess both sides of the border know what side of their bread is=20 buttered.
 
Immigragion is a WHOLE different story.  = Immigration=20 policies generally reflect the attitudes of the current = administration.  I=20 travel to Canada quite a bit, and I've experience Immigration problems = recently,=20 also.  Usually this a reaction by the generally compliant Canadians = to some=20 STUPID policy the Americans have put in place.  A couple of years = ago,=20 someone at the US State Dept. decided that ALL Canadians should show a = passport=20 at the border.  Well these borders have been basically 'open' for = 300=20 years!  So the Canadians did what any civilised nation would do, = they put a=20 retaliatory policy in place!  All Americans MUST show a passport to = enter=20 Canada!  Unfortunately most Americans don't HAVE a passport, and = wouldn't=20 know how to get one!  So after a few days of that, US Immigration = quietly=20 rescinded the order.  I'd guess that the current Canadian = Immigration=20 problems are of that nature. 
 
Good Luck,   = Leo.
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Stein <stein@bekkers.com.au>
T= o:=20 hasselblad@kelvin.net <hasselblad@kelvin.net>
Date:=20 Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: Canadian = Customs=20 Practices

Dear Friends,
 
     = Fascinating!. I also=20 monitor a list that deals with toy trains and one of the = correspondents=20 there mentioned a need for a notarized birth certificate and ID to = gain=20 entry to British Columbia from Washington. Are you in a grip of a=20 cross-border slanging match between Ottawa and Washington or are you = getting=20 too many unidentifiables trying to escape north to hide in the = woods? We=20 have our own problems here but we are solving them by parking the = illegals=20 out in the desert at Port Hedland and Woomera until they either = cough up=20 their real ID papers or we conduct the next series of atomic weapon=20 tests.....
 
     Uncle=20 Dick
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C11421.454DFDE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 09:29:11 -0400 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: 503 CW Basic Operations Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010724092833.04f1abf0@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:15 AM 07/24/2001, you wrote: > I'm >not really familiar with any Hasselblad so I hope >somebody can give me some advices as a good start. Not to seem flip, but the BEST advice I can think of is to read the owner's manual BEFORE manipulating the controls. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 23:15:12 +0800 From: "Stein" To: Subject: Lenient Customs or Which Side Is Your Ford Buttered On.... Message-ID: <002901c11453$6fef9d60$dbb237cb@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C11496.7D836EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friends, Lenient Canadian Customs. Sounds good if you say it fast. Unfortunately 1957 was a slow year = at the little border crossing south of Creston in British Columbia. !957 = was also one of the years when the dairy farmers of B.C. were successful = in lobbying the provincial government. They wanted to prevent the = upstart manufacturers of margarine from gaining an upper hand in = Canadian kitchens so they compelled them to supply their product = uncoloured - a sickly white lardy-looking paste. A small packet of = reddish food colouring was included with every pound of margarine so = that the housewife could turn the lot out into a bowl and then slowly = blend it into a more appetising form by hand. A royal pain. The housewives of Riondel decided that they could do better going = across the border into Washington and buying up big on margarine and = hauling it home. HMC Customs objected expensively. So the ladies took to = buying up big, concealing the booty in the door panels of the older cars = of the period, and driving back through. Tale goes an inspector = suspected the deal and deliberately made the ladies wait parked in the = hot sun....until the door sills started leaking evidence. It may have = been an apocryphal story, but I do remember the lardy marge and the red = food dye. My tip for navigating customs - US, HM, HMC or HMA - is declare = everything - every single little blessed thing - and have sales papers = and export papers and valuations and receipt all in a big bundle in your = hand. And fix the Customs man with the glad eye of an enthusiast and a = zealot and launch into a detailed tale of where you got everything and = how you bargained for it. The Jobsworth will blanch and stamp your = suitcase and shove you through the turnstile before you even get to = explain the detonators and the quart of arrack. Uncle Dick PS: Don't make fun of dentists. We have a secret brotherhood that = extends all over the world. We not only know where you live but what = your toothbrush looks like.... ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C11496.7D836EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Friends,
 
     Lenient = Canadian=20 Customs.
 
    Sounds good if you = say it fast.=20 Unfortunately 1957 was a slow year at the little border crossing south = of=20 Creston in British Columbia. !957 was also one of the years when the = dairy=20 farmers of B.C. were successful in lobbying the provincial government. = They=20 wanted to prevent the upstart manufacturers of margarine from gaining an = upper=20 hand in Canadian kitchens so they compelled them to supply their product = uncoloured - a sickly white lardy-looking paste. A small packet of = reddish food=20 colouring was included with every pound of margarine so that the = housewife could=20 turn the lot out into a bowl and then slowly blend it into a more = appetising=20 form by hand. A royal pain.
 
    The housewives of = Riondel=20 decided that they could do better going across the border into = Washington and=20 buying up big on margarine and hauling it home. HMC Customs objected=20 expensively. So the ladies took to buying up big, concealing the booty = in the=20 door panels of the older cars of the period, and driving back through. = Tale goes=20 an inspector suspected the deal and deliberately made the ladies wait = parked in=20 the hot sun....until the door sills started leaking evidence. It may = have been=20 an apocryphal story, but I do remember the lardy marge and the red food=20 dye.
 
    My tip for = navigating=20 customs  - US, HM, HMC or HMA - is declare everything - every = single little=20 blessed thing - and have sales papers and export papers and valuations = and=20 receipt all in a big bundle in your hand. And fix the Customs man with = the glad=20 eye of an enthusiast and a zealot and launch into a detailed tale of = where you=20 got everything and how you bargained for it. The Jobsworth will blanch = and stamp=20 your suitcase and shove you through the turnstile before you even get to = explain=20 the detonators and the quart of arrack.
 
    Uncle = Dick
 
PS: Don't make fun of dentists. We have = a secret=20 brotherhood that extends all over the world. We not only know where you = live but=20 what your toothbrush looks like....
------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C11496.7D836EA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:01:14 +0200 From: "Andreas Frijdal" To: Subject: ELM: two pix instead of one. Message-ID: <003101c11473$28991480$b1dcd8d4@mshome.net> Dear Friends Today I started to use my old trusted ELM for some studio shooting and to my great surprise everytime the camera shoots two pictures instead one one, help! Thanks in advance, Andreas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:19:42 -0400 From: "Eugene A. Pallat" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: ELM: two pix instead of one. Message-ID: <3B5DCA4E.20A2DBCE@apk.net> Andreas Frijdal wrote: > Dear Friends > Today I started to use my old trusted ELM for some studio shooting and to my > great surprise everytime the camera shoots two pictures instead one one, > help! Do you mean that the camera fires twice in succession? Does this happen when pressing the release button on the from or a remote switch connected to the 5 pin DIN connector? Please give a little more info on just what occurs. (I own an EL/MC). Gene Pallat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:36:49 +0200 From: "Andreas Frijdal" To: Subject: Re: ELM: two pix instead of one. Message-ID: <000701c11477$fe29caa0$b1dcd8d4@mshome.net> Dear Gene, It happens in both situations : when pressing the release button on the front or a remote switch connected to the 5 pin DIN connector. ciao Andreas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene A. Pallat" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:19 PM Subject: Re: ELM: two pix instead of one. > Andreas Frijdal wrote: > > > Dear Friends > > Today I started to use my old trusted ELM for some studio shooting and to my > > great surprise everytime the camera shoots two pictures instead one one, > > help! > > Do you mean that the camera fires twice in succession? Does this happen when pressing the release button on the from or a remote switch connected to the 5 pin DIN connector? Please give a little more info on just what occurs. (I > own an EL/MC). > > Gene Pallat > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:00:09 -0400 From: "Eugene A. Pallat" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: ELM: two pix instead of one. Message-ID: <3B5DD3C9.EF66B82B@apk.net> Andreas Frijdal wrote: > Dear Gene, > > It happens in both situations : when pressing the release button on the > front or a remote switch connected to the 5 pin DIN connector. Then it's probably an internal problem and needs to taken in for servicing. Should be a simple adjustment or part replacement. Gene Pallat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:17:22 EDT From: Fivewest@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Scanners & Printers Message-ID: --part1_ad.dc918ea.288f31d2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I would like to get a scanner for Hasselblad negs and print color from the computer. Any recommendations? --part1_ad.dc918ea.288f31d2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

I would like to get a scanner for Hasselblad negs and print color from the
computer. Any recommendations?
--part1_ad.dc918ea.288f31d2_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:36:41 -0700 From: "Hanson Photography" To: Subject: RE: Scanners & Printers Message-ID: I'd get the Polaroid Sprintscan 120. B&H has a great deal on them. -Bradley b r a d l e y h a n s o n SEATTLE www.hansonphotography.com 206.937.8510 -----Original Message----- From: Fivewest@aol.com [mailto:Fivewest@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 1:17 PM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Scanners & Printers Hi, I would like to get a scanner for Hasselblad negs and print color from the computer. Any recommendations? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:06:44 -0500 From: "Waldo Berry" To: Subject: re: light meter Message-ID: I don't have the 608 sektronics, but I do have it's predisesor, the 508. = I also own the minolta Brad mentioned. Both are great meters, but the = 508 add a level of convenience the minolta lacks. Remember, you need = back ups to everything, so why not have both of the best. Waldo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 17:09:46 -0400 From: Dan Cardish To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Hasselblad stuff for sale Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010724170946.00a3c470@POP6.sympatico.ca> Forwarded from myself on behalf of a non HUG subscriber. Please respond to him directly as he will not see posts made to the HUG. Thanks, Dan Cardish >--------------------------- > >Hasselblad 500C with waist level finder, 12 back (old style back not the >A12), 80 f 2.8 Planar lens and NPC polaroid back. An excellent entry camera >into the famous world of Hasselblad precision! This camera is in excellent >working condition with only a few places where the leatherette >near the finder is worn and a mark on the base where the tripod attaches. >See the photos to see these marks (http://www.mcclary.net/blad). I have had >this camera for about 5 years. I had it serviced with new foam and shutters >adjusted about 2 or 3 years ago. The camera has seen very light use, >mostly used for Polaroid=B9s the last two years, and that only very >occasionally. All functions are in good working order. Money order and >PayPal ship day received. Personal checks must clear first. Shipping= charges >at 10.00 for US shipments with insurance. > >Asking 995.00 plus shipping. > >To see the camera and back follow this link > >http://www.mcclary.net/blad > >e-mail: harrison@mcclary.net >--=20 >Harrison McClary >http://www.mcclary.net > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:41:04 -0500 From: "Jack Casner" To: Subject: Re: Scanners & Printers Message-ID: <000801c11489$a22519a0$08b5b318@indpdnce1.mo.home.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C11457.0C9CD6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm also interested in this. I have a Heidelberg/Linoscan but I can't = recommend it because it too often produces unsharp results. =20 Let's see what Nikon comes up with. =20 Jack Casner ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Fivewest@aol.com=20 To: hasselblad@kelvin.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: Re: Scanners & Printers Hi,=20 I would like to get a scanner for Hasselblad negs and print color from = the=20 computer. Any recommendations?=20 ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C11457.0C9CD6C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm also interested in this.  I have a=20 Heidelberg/Linoscan but I can't recommend it because it too often = produces=20 unsharp results. 
 
Let's see what Nikon comes up with.  =
 
Jack Casner
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Fivewest@aol.com=20
To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 = 3:17=20 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners &=20 Printers

Hi, =

I would=20 like to get a scanner for Hasselblad negs and print color from the=20
computer. Any recommendations?
=
------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C11457.0C9CD6C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:56:40 -0700 From: David Barr To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Scanners & Printers Message-ID: --============_-1216096294==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Hi, > >I would like to get a scanner for Hasselblad negs and print color from the >computer. Any recommendations? I've been using a Flextight Photo from Imacon it does a superb job on medium format and comes with holders for 35mm David Barr -- Photobar Agricultural Stock Photography. Stock and assignment photography specializing in all aspects of agriculture. High res scans now available in house for information visit http://www.photobar.com/newpage.html On line catalogue http://www.photobar.com photobar@photobar.com --============_-1216096294==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Scanners & Printers
Hi,

I would like to get a scanner for Hasselblad negs and print color from the
computer. Any recommendations?

I've been using a Flextight Photo from Imacon it does a superb job on medium format and comes with holders for 35mm

David Barr
--
Photobar Agricultural Stock Photography.
Stock and assignment photography
specializing in all aspects of agriculture.

High res scans now available in house for information
visit http://www.photobar.com/newpage.html

On line catalogue
http://www.photobar.com
photobar@photobar.com
--============_-1216096294==_ma============-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:05:03 -0400 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: Scanners & Printers Message-ID: > I would like to get a scanner for Hasselblad negs and print color from the > computer. Any recommendations? I personally use a Leafscan 45. It works beautifully... It scans 35mm at 5080, MF at 2540 and LF at 1200. It, like any scanner, has its pros and cons... If you want more information, I can give it to you. I will say this, it does scan B&W spectacularly, since it uses a single ND filter for B&W scans, instead of scanning in RGB and converting. The red channel of CCD scanners "suffers" from smear (crosstalk) and bloom (clipping), and as such, it makes that channel softer than the others. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 07:08:06 +0800 From: "Stein" To: Subject: Re: two pix instead of one. Message-ID: <004201c11495$804b84c0$f5b237cb@oemcomputer> Dear Andreas, Look carefully at your ELM as it takes the pictures. Is the aperture ring turning slightly between the two exposures? If so you have one of the rare Gothenburg " Second Guess" models. They were built to special order by Hasselblad for studio photographers who are unsure of the actual exposure. A couple 3-aperture ones were also made to provide complete bracketing. There is also an example owned by a chap in Seattle that spits out its own darkslide, rattles off the 12 shot roll of film, changes aperture up the entire range and whistles when it is done. He uses it at weddings and it has been known to stop the ceremony cold. You can have your "Second Guess" converted back to a plain model at a service center or you can do it yourself by driving a cedar sake through its heart at the crossroads at midnight. Uncle Dick PS: There is also the "Brown Trousers" model of Elinchrom flash unit that arcs over its circuit board when you take a picture with a noise like a pistol shot. You can see a clear six inches under the model. I know because I have one. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:09:26 EDT From: BLADHASS@aol.com To: stein@bekkers.com.au, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Canadian Customs Practices Message-ID: <60.115a5e35.288f5a26@aol.com> --part1_60.115a5e35.288f5a26_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uncle Dick I was just thinking that my parents live in North Dakota and go to Canada all the time for Dental work. No custom problems on that account. I do remember that when I lived in ND some people made extra money sneaking in tobacco products to the US. Peter Peterson PS You are a very funny GUY --part1_60.115a5e35.288f5a26_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uncle Dick
I was just thinking that my parents live in North Dakota and go to Canada all
the time for Dental work. No custom problems on that account. I do remember
that when I lived in ND some people made extra money sneaking in tobacco
products to the US.
Peter Peterson
PS You are a very funny GUY
--part1_60.115a5e35.288f5a26_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:12:02 +0200 From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?Sm9zZXAgTWly8w==?=" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Introducing myself and a question Message-ID: Hello everybody, I've just subscribed to this mailing list and I wanted to introduce myself: I'm from Andorra, a little country between Spain and France. I'm an amateur photographer. I have an old Bronica S2A that takes quite good pictures, but now, I've decided to buy a Hasselblad. I've taken the decission of buying a Hassel because I wanted a camera with top quality lenses. For this reason, I've been considering Rollei and Hassel. In Europe, Rollei is much cheaper than Hasselblad and Rollei 6008i has a lot of funcionality as standard, that in a hassy is an option. I went to a specialized shop in Barcelona and they showed-me a Rollei 6008i and a Hasselblad 203FE. I founded the Rollei too heavy in comparison as the Hassy and the feeling was too "plastic". So, I decided to buy a Hassy. Now, I have a new problem: I can't afford for a 203FE. But, perhaps I can buy a 202FA (expensive but cheaper than the 203FE). The other option is to buy a 501CM or a 503CW. I think I'm going to buy the 501CM, but I'm not sure... Do you think is a good camera? Which is the difference between a 501CM and a 503CW? Can I take same quality images with de 501CM than with a 200 series?. I want to use the camera mainly for landscapes and for portraits. I'm considering of buying a 501CM with a Planar CFE 2.8/80 and a Sonnar CFi 4/180 or a Sonnar CF 4/150. Which one of the Sonnars is the best for portraits?. The price is similar and I don't know which is the diference between CF and CFi lenses. Another question: the quality of images taken with FE lenses is the same than CF or CFi lenses? Sorry for the extension of the message. I need some help!. Thank's a lot, Pep Miró _________________________________________________________________ Descargue GRATUITAMENTE MSN Explorer en http://explorer.msn.es/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:32:14 -0700 From: Mark Rabiner To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: ELM: two pix instead of one. Message-ID: <3B5E057E.5E475120@rabiner.cncoffice.com> "Eugene A. Pallat" wrote: > > Andreas Frijdal wrote: > > > Dear Friends > > Today I started to use my old trusted ELM for some studio shooting and to my > > great surprise everytime the camera shoots two pictures instead one one, > > help! > I'ts an easy mistake to make make! Mark Rabiner I stutter sometimes myself self! Portland Oregon Oregon http://www.rabiner.cncoffice.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:37:42 -0400 From: "Eugene A. Pallat" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: two pix instead of one. Message-ID: <3B5E06C6.5C3A90EF@apk.net> Stein wrote: > You can have your "Second Guess" converted back to a plain model at a > service center or you can do it yourself by driving a cedar sake through its > heart at the crossroads at midnight. Be sure to fire blacken the point of the stake to harden it. This improves upon the method used by thepoor chap who tried to use a pork chop because steaks were too expensive. ;-) Gene Pallat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:26:20 -0400 From: "Eugene A. Pallat" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Introducing myself and a question Message-ID: <3B5E122C.6CE07317@apk.net> Josep Mir=F3 wrote: > Now, I have a new problem: I can't afford for a 203FE. But, perhaps I c= an > buy a 202FA (expensive but cheaper than the 203FE). The other option is= to > buy a 501CM or a 503CW. > I think I'm going to buy the 501CM, but I'm not sure... Do you think is= a > good camera? Which is the difference between a 501CM and a 503CW? Can I= take > same quality images with de 501CM than with a 200 series?. > I want to use the camera mainly for landscapes and for portraits. > I'm considering of buying a 501CM with a Planar CFE 2.8/80 and a Sonnar= CFi > 4/180 or a Sonnar CF 4/150. > Which one of the Sonnars is the best for portraits?. The price is simil= ar > and I don't know which is the diference between CF and CFi lenses. > Another question: the quality of images taken with FE lenses is the sam= e > than CF or CFi lenses? Since you haven't made your purchase yet, I suggest you buy Ernst Wildi's= book on the Hasselblad. It has a wealth of information, and I still ref= er to it. He includes some sample shots with different focal length lens= es so that you can see which one might be preferred for a situation. The 503CW allows you to use a winder, the 501C/M doesn't. The 501C/M is = functionally the closest to the older 500C and C/M bodies. As for focal = lengths, my preference would be to skip the 80mm and use a wide angle, s= uch as the 50mm for landscapes. The quality of the pictures depends upon the lens, not the body, and Zeis= s lenses are excellent. The difference between the C, CF, and CFi lenses= is minor in most cases. You won't be disappointed with the 'Blad equipment that you're considerin= g. However, don't overlook the possibility of buying used equipment that's b= een well maintained. An authorized Hasselblad dealer often takes in trad= e-ins which are well maintained by the owners. One pro I know replaces h= is equipment every few years just to have the latest models. For an amateur, you can = gets years of use from these. Just make sure the shop has a warranty on = the equipment. Shoot a roll of film in the store and have it developed t= o make sure everything is OK. Just to let you know what I did, I have a 500C, 500C/M, 500EL/M and a SWC= , all used. The SWC was modified with a kit to upgrade it to a SWC/M so = that I can use a Polaroid back. These 4 together cost less than a new 90= 3SWC, and all function perfectly. The SWC cost less than 1/2 what a new one would cost and it's in mint con= dition. Due to the lack of room, I'll be using it tomorrow night to take= pictures in the conning tower of an old WW II submarine for the sub's we= b site. For lenses, the only new one I have is the 80mm T*. The 50mm T*, chrome = 120mm C, and 150mm T* are all used and the the lenses are incredibly shar= p. Those are my thoughts, for whatever they're worth. Gene Pallat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:23:03 -0700 From: "Fritz Olenberger" To: Subject: Re: Scanners & Printers Message-ID: <003e01c114b0$bb7e49e0$225a1518@santab1.ca.home.com> That would have been my recommendation also (resolution of 4000dpi and DMax of 4.1, I think. Specs like a drum scanner). However, Poloroid is close to bankruptcy, I've heard. What would this mean to their new scanner? -Fritz ----- Original Message ----- From: Hanson Photography To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 1:36 PM Subject: RE: Scanners & Printers > I'd get the Polaroid Sprintscan 120. B&H has a great deal on them. > > -Bradley > > b r a d l e y h a n s o n > SEATTLE > www.hansonphotography.com > 206.937.8510 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fivewest@aol.com [mailto:Fivewest@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 1:17 PM > To: hasselblad@kelvin.net > Subject: Re: Scanners & Printers > > > Hi, > > I would like to get a scanner for Hasselblad negs and print color from the > computer. Any recommendations? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:32:45 -0700 From: David Gerhardt To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Introducing myself and a question Message-ID: <200107250331.XAA17186@barry.mail.mindspring.net> --Apple-Mail-1944575314-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 On Tuesday, July 24, 2001, at 04:12 PM, Josep Mir=F3 wrote: > I went to a specialized shop in Barcelona and they showed-me a Rollei=20= > 6008i and a Hasselblad 203FE. > I founded the Rollei too heavy in comparison as the Hassy > .... > Now, I have a new problem: I can't afford for a 203FE. But, perhaps I=20= > can buy a 202FA (expensive but cheaper than the 203FE). The other=20 > option is to buy a 501CM or a 503CW. > ... Do you think is a good camera? Can I take same quality images with=20= > de 501CM than with a 200 series?. > The price is similar and I don't know which is the diference between=20= > CF and CFi lenses. > Another question: the quality of images taken with FE lenses is the=20 > same than CF or CFi lenses? > > Pep Mir=F3 > Josep- Welcome to being (almost) a Hasselblad owner! Regarding your first=20 question; if at all possible, I'd go with the 203FE. I had a 500c/m for=20= many years, and moved up to the 203 two years ago. About a month or so=20= ago, it was announced on this forum that Hasselblad was about to=20 SIGNIFICANTLY drop the price of the 203. You may want to check into that=20= before you buy. The price drop mentioned was from $5732 (US) to $3175! Has anyone on the list heard any updates on this? Second, 202 vs 203? Especially if the price reduction takes place; the=20= 203 is a much more flexible machine. Can the 500 series cameras take as good pictures as the 200 series? In=20= many cases, you'd be using the same lenses! So, yes. The lens is the=20 largest impact on image quality. The 203 can use nearly ALL of the 500=20= series lenses; the 500 cameras CANNOT use the FE lenses. This is not=20 usually a big thing, unless you do a lot of available light or closeup=20= work (the FE lenses usually are faster, and focus closer than their=20 leaf-shutter counterparts). There are some differences that might sway=20= you one way or another based on your own photographic tastes. The 500=20 cameras are a little "quieter". They don't require batteries. Most 200=20= series cameras come with built-in metering. The 203 & 205 can be set for=20= VERY long exposure times (up to 30+ minutes) that are precisely=20 controlled. And the NEWER cameras (500 or 200) have better internal=20 light baffling for improved contrast & flare reduction. Regarding the CF, CFi, and FE lenses; go to the Hasselblad web site (or=20= read either of the following books: Hasselblad System Compendium by=20 Nordin, or the Hasselblad Manual by Wildi). The web site has fairly good=20= descriptions of what features the CFi ("improved" CF) lenses offer, and=20= what the maximum apertures & focal lengths are for the FE lenses. There=20= are excellent lenses made for the Hasselblad both with & without=20 shutters. The 203 can use nearly all of them. Good luck, and think of it as an investment ! ;-) -David Gerhardt (davidgerhardt@mindspring.com) --Apple-Mail-1944575314-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 On Tuesday, July 24, 2001, at 04:12 PM, Josep Mir=F3 wrote: I went to a specialized shop in Barcelona and they showed-me a Rollei 6008i and a Hasselblad 203FE. I founded the Rollei too heavy in comparison as the Hassy .... Now, I have a new problem: I can't afford for a 203FE. But, perhaps I can buy a 202FA (expensive but cheaper than the 203FE). The other option is to buy a 501CM or a 503CW. ... Do you think is a good camera? Can I take same quality images with de 501CM than with a 200 series?. The price is similar and I don't know which is the diference between CF and CFi lenses. Another question: the quality of images taken with FE lenses is the same than CF or CFi lenses? Pep Mir=F3 Josep- Welcome to being (almost) a Hasselblad owner! Regarding your first question; if at all possible, I'd go with the 203FE. I had a 500c/m for many years, and moved up to the 203 two years ago. About a month or so ago, it was announced on this forum that Hasselblad was about to SIGNIFICANTLY drop the price of the 203. You may want to check into that before you buy. The price drop mentioned was from $5732 (US) to $3175! Has anyone on the list heard any updates on this? Second, 202 vs 203? Especially if the price reduction takes place; the 203 is a much more flexible machine. Can the 500 series cameras take as good pictures as the 200 series? In many cases, you'd be using the same lenses! So, yes. The lens is the largest impact on image quality. The 203 can use nearly ALL of the 500 series lenses; the 500 cameras CANNOT use the FE lenses. This is not usually a big thing, unless you do a lot of available light or closeup work (the FE lenses usually are faster, and focus closer than their leaf-shutter counterparts). There are some differences that might sway you one way or another based on your own photographic tastes. The 500 cameras are a little "quieter". They don't require batteries. Most=20 200 series cameras come with built-in metering. The 203 & 205 can be set for VERY long exposure times (up to 30+ minutes) that are precisely controlled. And the NEWER cameras (500 or 200) have better internal light baffling for improved contrast & flare reduction. Regarding the CF, CFi, and FE lenses; go to the Hasselblad web site (or read either of the following books: Hasselblad System Compendium by Nordin, or the Hasselblad Manual by Wildi). The web site has fairly good descriptions of what features the CFi ("improved" CF) lenses offer, and what the maximum apertures & focal lengths are for the FE lenses. There are excellent lenses made for the Hasselblad both with & without shutters. The 203 can use nearly all of them. Good luck, and think of it as an investment ! ;-) Gill = Sans3535,4747,8787-David Gerhardt American = Typewriter(davidgerhardt@mindspring.com)= --Apple-Mail-1944575314-1-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:41:04 -0500 From: "Jack Casner" To: Subject: Re: Scanners & Printers Message-ID: <000501c11485$45ac2500$08b5b318@indpdnce1.mo.home.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C11457.0C9CD6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm also interested in this. I have a Heidelberg/Linoscan but I can't = recommend it because it too often produces unsharp results. =20 Let's see what Nikon comes up with. =20 Jack Casner ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Fivewest@aol.com=20 To: hasselblad@kelvin.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: Re: Scanners & Printers Hi,=20 I would like to get a scanner for Hasselblad negs and print color from = the=20 computer. Any recommendations?=20 ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C11457.0C9CD6C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm also interested in this.  I have a=20 Heidelberg/Linoscan but I can't recommend it because it too often = produces=20 unsharp results. 
 
Let's see what Nikon comes up with.  =
 
Jack Casner
 
----- Original Message -----
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To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 = 3:17=20 PM
Subject: Re: Scanners &=20 Printers

Hi, =

I would=20 like to get a scanner for Hasselblad negs and print color from the=20
computer. Any recommendations?
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------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C11457.0C9CD6C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:06:14 +0200 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: 503 CW Basic Operations Message-ID: <200107250706.JAA08074@atwood.netch.se> At 03:15 AM 07/24/2001, you wrote: > I'm >not really familiar with any Hasselblad so I hope >somebody can give me some advices as a good start. Not to seem flip, but the BEST advice I can think of is to read the owner's manual BEFORE manipulating the controls. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 23:15:12 +0800 From: "Stein" To: Subject: Lenient Customs or Which Side Is Your Ford Buttered On.... Message-ID: <200107250710.JAA09809@atwood.netch.se> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C11496.7D836EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friends, Lenient Canadian Customs. Sounds good if you say it fast. Unfortunately 1957 was a slow year = at the little border crossing south of Creston in British Columbia. !957 = was also one of the years when the dairy farmers of B.C. were successful = in lobbying the provincial government. They wanted to prevent the = upstart manufacturers of margarine from gaining an upper hand in = Canadian kitchens so they compelled them to supply their product = uncoloured - a sickly white lardy-looking paste. A small packet of = reddish food colouring was included with every pound of margarine so = that the housewife could turn the lot out into a bowl and then slowly = blend it into a more appetising form by hand. A royal pain. The housewives of Riondel decided that they could do better going = across the border into Washington and buying up big on margarine and = hauling it home. HMC Customs objected expensively. So the ladies took to = buying up big, concealing the booty in the door panels of the older cars = of the period, and driving back through. Tale goes an inspector = suspected the deal and deliberately made the ladies wait parked in the = hot sun....until the door sills started leaking evidence. It may have = been an apocryphal story, but I do remember the lardy marge and the red = food dye. My tip for navigating customs - US, HM, HMC or HMA - is declare = everything - every single little blessed thing - and have sales papers = and export papers and valuations and receipt all in a big bundle in your = hand. And fix the Customs man with the glad eye of an enthusiast and a = zealot and launch into a detailed tale of where you got everything and = how you bargained for it. The Jobsworth will blanch and stamp your = suitcase and shove you through the turnstile before you even get to = explain the detonators and the quart of arrack. Uncle Dick PS: Don't make fun of dentists. We have a secret brotherhood that = extends all over the world. We not only know where you live but what = your toothbrush looks like.... ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C11496.7D836EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Friends,
 
     Lenient = Canadian=20 Customs.
 
    Sounds good if you = say it fast.=20 Unfortunately 1957 was a slow year at the little border crossing south = of=20 Creston in British Columbia. !957 was also one of the years when the = dairy=20 farmers of B.C. were successful in lobbying the provincial government. = They=20 wanted to prevent the upstart manufacturers of margarine from gaining an = upper=20 hand in Canadian kitchens so they compelled them to supply their product = uncoloured - a sickly white lardy-looking paste. A small packet of = reddish food=20 colouring was included with every pound of margarine so that the = housewife could=20 turn the lot out into a bowl and then slowly blend it into a more = appetising=20 form by hand. A royal pain.
 
    The housewives of = Riondel=20 decided that they could do better going across the border into = Washington and=20 buying up big on margarine and hauling it home. HMC Customs objected=20 expensively. So the ladies took to buying up big, concealing the booty = in the=20 door panels of the older cars of the period, and driving back through. = Tale goes=20 an inspector suspected the deal and deliberately made the ladies wait = parked in=20 the hot sun....until the door sills started leaking evidence. It may = have been=20 an apocryphal story, but I do remember the lardy marge and the red food=20 dye.
 
    My tip for = navigating=20 customs  - US, HM, HMC or HMA - is declare everything - every = single little=20 blessed thing - and have sales papers and export papers and valuations = and=20 receipt all in a big bundle in your hand. And fix the Customs man with = the glad=20 eye of an enthusiast and a zealot and launch into a detailed tale of = where you=20 got everything and how you bargained for it. The Jobsworth will blanch = and stamp=20 your suitcase and shove you through the turnstile before you even get to = explain=20 the detonators and the quart of arrack.
 
    Uncle = Dick
 
PS: Don't make fun of dentists. We have = a secret=20 brotherhood that extends all over the world. We not only know where you = live but=20 what your toothbrush looks like....
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