hasselblad Wed, 19 Nov 1997 Volume 1 : Number 14 In this issue: Re: CHAT: Want some cheese with your whine Marc James Small and Roger Lafayette Beamon Jr. quibling. Re: Loupes on Viewfinder Glass. -Reply Re: Loupes on Viewfinder Glass. -Reply Re: Loupes on Viewfinder Glass. -Reply 500 c or 500 c/m? Meter knob Re: Loupes on Viewfinder Glass. -Reply Impaled on dark slide? Meter knob -Reply HUG: what we call our cameras Re: Meter knob Acute-Matte Screens Polaroid Backs Sharp lenses? You bet! Sharp lenses? You bet! -Reply Re: Polaroid Backs Re: Acute-Matte Screens 80mm C or CB which would you choose? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:41:31 -0500 From: Marc James Small To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: CHAT: Want some cheese with your whine Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971118074131.0092e478@roanoke.infi.net> At 10:32 PM 11/17/97 -0600, Lew wrote: >Are you named Marc or Marcus? My name is 'Marc James Small', and thanks for the asking! Marc msmall@roanoke.infi.net FAX: +540/343-7315 Cha robh bas fir gun ghras fir! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:21:36 -0700 From: "Roger Beamon" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Marc James Small and Roger Lafayette Beamon Jr. quibling. Message-ID: <199711181323.GAA28324@smtp04.primenet.com> On 17 Nov 97, Marc James Small wrote: > My profession, thank you, doesn't abbreviate anything: we generally > get clobbered for using far too many words. Among colleagues was my assertion. > No, brother, it's Hasselblad. A fine product is worthy of its name. Aye, maybe, bro, but it's Hassy and Blad to most including those who earn their keep with them. -- Roger Beamon Naturalist & Photographer mailto:beamon@primenet.com Thought for the day: For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:57:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael J. Callahan" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Loupes on Viewfinder Glass. -Reply Message-ID: Man, thats the truth. Too bad that an honest forthright question, which I do have experience with, was responded to in such an inappropriate way and developed into a total signal to noise waste of band-width. What do I really think, well... mike >>Some people have too much time on their hands... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:08:15 -0800 From: Rick Campbell To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Loupes on Viewfinder Glass. -Reply Message-ID: <3471BD6F.4BC9@marylhurst.edu> Marc James Small wrote: > My profession, thank you, doesn't abbreviate anything: we generally get > clobbered for using far too many words. In any event, I put my MA in > Classics to good use in coining new Law Latin when some other soul > irritates me. And, yes, it is SPELLED OUT IN FULL. (I recently had a case > against a fellow who managed to be a Big Winner in Jeopardy a few years > back ... I had him whining to the judge about my "unfair" use of Latin!) > MA? MA? Oh, perhaps you mean Master of Arts, not your mother. Some abbreviations are so confusing ;-) -- Rick Campbell MIS Director Marylhurst College PO Box 261 Hwy 43 Marylhurst, OR 97036 (503) 636-8141 x4453 voice (503) 636-9526 fax ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:39:14 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Armstrong To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Loupes on Viewfinder Glass. -Reply Message-ID: well anyway, although I find the subject matter below to be stimulating as anything...;} I have sometime found cause to use a loupe directly on the VF glass -- mostly when I'm working with //really// close up stuff and want to confirm my depth of field and can't see s**t through my NC2 prism finder with the lens stopped down. So my preference for a loupe, although I haven't budgeted to purchase one yet, is for a 6x6 with as high magnification as possible, with one of those bases that has a choice -- semi-transparent for normal viewing, or black opaque for the purpose described above. I understand Schneider to be a very good brand -- any other recommendations out there? I've found the ground glass adapter to be useful also, rather than risking a 'ding' on my acutematte split grid screen. -Eric On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Rick Campbell wrote: > Marc James Small wrote: > > My profession, thank you, doesn't abbreviate anything: we generally get > > clobbered for using far too many words. In any event, I put my MA in > > Classics to good use in coining new Law Latin when some other soul > > irritates me. And, yes, it is SPELLED OUT IN FULL. (I recently had a case > > against a fellow who managed to be a Big Winner in Jeopardy a few years > > back ... I had him whining to the judge about my "unfair" use of Latin!) > > > > MA? MA? Oh, perhaps you mean Master of Arts, not your mother. Some > abbreviations are so confusing ;-) > -- > Rick Campbell MIS Director > Marylhurst College > PO Box 261 Hwy 43 > Marylhurst, OR 97036 > > (503) 636-8141 x4453 voice > (503) 636-9526 fax > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Armstrong e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:05:59 -0500 (EST) From: SPYDERS@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: 500 c or 500 c/m? Message-ID: <971118160559_-1843705531@mrin47> This posting has nothing to do with those cameras, Hasselblads, Hassies or 'blads... but since subject headings seem to get lost... Even if it did, would I get some answers? I left the MF list (uhh, gee, which camera should I buy?) for this one thinking the common thread of using a unique camera would at least keep us closer to our topics and have a better SNR (FYI, that's "signal to noise ratio" for those averse to abbreviations, FWIW) But what the h*ll, let's forget the loupes thing, which could have helped some shooters (oh, sorry, I meant practitioners of the photographic arts) get better images with their Hasselblad(tm)s; lets talk about what we call our cameras. i call mine: " 'blad the impaler " after a former assistant tripped and fell on the dark slide, causing the accidental removal of his tonsils. He's fine, but the bloody assistant bled on the 'blad from a neck wound that looked like it could only have been caused by Vlad. ;-) I agree with whoever said it, that those of us that do use these cameras on a daily basis for our jobs *do* call them Hassy, 'blad (and I do include the apostrophy to indicate the contraction, for those of you who seem to have drifted from the Semantics List) and just plain ol' cameras. Just why is the A12 back an *A* 12? isn't the A for automatic, as in: automatically stops at frame 1? Correct me if I'm wrong... and let's all refer to them as Automatic 12 Film magazines, just so we know we're not talking about Leicas. pat "still, just looking for info" parsons p.s.: to my friends I'm known as pat, but if you are a stickler with time to type it all out, please call me Patrick. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:04:00 -0500 From: Dan Cardish To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Meter knob Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971118180400.008ae320@pop.microtec.net> Has anyone had any experience using the selenium metered knob on their Hasselblads? I have one, but I'm not used to using hand held wide coverage meters like this, and don't fully trust it. Are they accurate? Any tips to get good readings out of it would be appreciated. Dan C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:38:18 PST From: Dave Munroe To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Loupes on Viewfinder Glass. -Reply Message-ID: <199711190038.QAA10810@hpvclmn2.vcd.hp.com> Marty writes: Marc> The camera is a 'Hasselblad' and Marc> failure to use the entire name is just another indicator of Marc> the sad slide our standards have taken in this century. > The thing I like best about this line is that it is right out of > _Dune_. :-) _Dune_ had Hasselblads? Hm. Nasty environment. Trivia question: which popular prime-time TV show of the 1980's featured both a Nikon F3 (F4?) and a Hasselblad in the opening credits? > "Hassleblad lens" or a "Hasselblad camera," or, god forbid, a > Hasselblad 2000 F/CM camera. FC/M. Hasselblad's literature states that they chose to call it an FC because it could take both the new F and the existing C lenses. The latest 200 series should also be called FC rather than just F, but they've gotten sloppy in recent times. I have no idea where the 903 designation comes from. Anyone? As for the /M, I've always taken that to mean "modified", e.g. 500C -> 500C/M. Also inconsistent is that they don't use the slash on the new 501CM. Dave -- "Bells and whistles. Last refuge of the insecure and talentless." - Pentax 67 ad, 1996 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:53:03 PST From: Dave Munroe To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Impaled on dark slide? Message-ID: <199711190053.QAA10829@hpvclmn2.vcd.hp.com> > i call mine: " 'blad the impaler " after a former assistant tripped and fell > on the dark slide, causing the accidental removal of his tonsils. I just have to ask: did you get a photo? -Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:07:32 -0700 From: Bob MAXIE To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Meter knob -Reply Message-ID: I use one occasionally, but I still prefer the old Luna Pro. RM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:37:05 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Armstrong To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: HUG: what we call our cameras Message-ID: ok, so along these lines... > > As for the /M, I've always taken that to mean "modified", e.g. 500C -> 500C/M. > Also inconsistent is that they don't use the slash on the new 501CM. > many of you I'm sure know that there are 500Cs out there that have the /M feature of a removeable focusing screen. 2 questions: 1) are there other features of the CM over the C than the above? if so what are they? 2) is it OK when selling a 'transition' model 500C (says 500C on the side, but has the removeable screen modification) to just call it a 500CM in my ads? or should I call it a "Transition 500C - with removeable screen" ...just seeking some sales etiquette advice. thanks, -Eric ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Armstrong e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:06:40 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kronquist To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Meter knob Message-ID: <199711190206.SAA26152@mail1.teleport.com> Accurate? Yes...as accurate as any selenium meter. mine works great for C41 and B&W Mark ---------- >From: Dan Cardish >To: hasselblad@kelvin.net >Subject: Meter knob >Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:04:00 -0500 > >Has anyone had any experience using the selenium metered knob on their >Hasselblads? I have one, but I'm not used to using hand held wide coverage >meters like this, and don't fully trust it. Are they accurate? Any tips to >get good readings out of it would be appreciated. > >Dan C. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 21:33:56 -0600 From: Lew To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Acute-Matte Screens Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971118213356.0070f748@mail.visi.com> My 500C/M has the old original focusing screen and I am not happy with the darkness and difficulty in focusing. Which Acute-Matte screen do most of you recommend for clarity and focusing ease? I am considering microprism and/or split-image rangefinders but open for suggestion. Lew Vividere Photography for all Reasons Lew@vividere.com http://www.vividere.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 21:42:44 -0600 From: Richard Steck To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Polaroid Backs Message-ID: <34726034.48DFB22B@interaccess.com> Sorry to bring up an old topic but presumably this list is more focused at Hasselblad users. Can someone please comment on the differences, other than cost, between the latest Hasselblad and NPC brands of Polaroid backs for the Hasselblad? If you don't feel this is of general interest to the group, please email your response directly to me. Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:43:59 -0800 From: Michael Tiemann To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Sharp lenses? You bet! Message-ID: <199711190344.TAA20404@cygint.cygnus.com> I printed out the "reverse engineered" USAF 1951 lens test chart residing at http://www.photo.net/photo/optics/index.html and gave my 110mm f/2.0 lens a little exercise at the near end of its focusing range (1.25m). Shooting wide open, the test was inconclusive because my 720dpi laser printer's resolution appeared to be the limiting factor! Amazing...anybody have other favorite ways to test lens resolution? Michael ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 20:45:35 -0700 From: Bob MAXIE To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Sharp lenses? You bet! -Reply Message-ID: I also use a USAF target. Mine is on glass, but some decent ones are available from Edmund Scientific. RM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 21:56:12 -0600 From: Lew To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Polaroid Backs Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971118215612.0070a040@mail.visi.com> At 09:42 PM 11/18/97 -0600, you wrote: >Sorry to bring up an old topic but presumably this list is more focused >at Hasselblad users. > >Can someone please comment on the differences, other than cost, between >the latest Hasselblad and NPC brands of Polaroid backs for the >Hasselblad? > >If you don't feel this is of general interest to the group, please email >your response directly to me. Thank you. I too would be interested in options for a Polaroid back. My partner has one but I don't and think I should have one. Would like to know what my options are if any. Lew Vividere Photography for all Reasons Lew@vividere.com http://www.vividere.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 05:15:34 +0100 From: Håkan Gunnarsson To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Acute-Matte Screens Message-ID: <347267E6.4EC4@mailer.student.gu.se> Lew wrote: >=20 > My 500C/M has the old original focusing screen and I am not happy with = the > darkness and difficulty in focusing. >=20 > Which Acute-Matte screen do most of you recommend for clarity and focus= ing > ease? I am considering microprism and/or split-image rangefinders but = open > for suggestion. I bought the new split-image + central grid (product number 42215) a month ago and I'm very satisfied with it: so for easy and fast focusing this is the way to go IMO. It's more expensive than the standard Acute matte D, though (approx. $290/240) A nice thing about this one (the split&grid) is that the outer circle of the central grid indicates the metering area of the PME-90 viewfinder spot-mode, and the inner circle the metering area of 205FCC spot-mode. Regards, H=E5kan Gunnarsson G=F6teborg, Sweden ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 23:34:09 -0800 From: Kim the Star & Mark To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: 80mm C or CB which would you choose? Message-ID: <01BCF47A.7D46A320@ghana-148.ppp.hooked.net> If you could choose from the soon to be 'old' 80 mm C lens that is = optically the same as the 80mm CF, or a new 80 mm CB lens which a new = optical design.=20 Which should I choose, the C does not have a EV lock and has the older = style focusing ring , (the CB is supposed to be easer to focus because = of newer style focusing ring and helliocord) Any suggestions? Anyone compared the optical quality of the 80mm CB = against the older CF/C design. (the 80mm C that I am refering to is the once that comes with 501 kits) ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #14 ************************