hasselblad Sat, 22 Dec 2001 Volume 1 : Number 1446 In this issue: Hasselblad, Nikon FS....Ebay AW: [HUG] Camera tripods for the Hasselblad AW: [HUG] lenses and manufacturing dates Re: [HUG] Film spacing problems... sometimes Re: My Thanks to the List Members Re: [HUG] Film spacing problems... sometimes Re: [HUG] Film spacing problems... sometimes FS: Hasselblad 503CW & Winder CW & hoods Re: [HUG] Film spacing problems... sometimes Re: Friday FS RE: [HUG] Film spacing problems... sometimes Re: hasselblad V1 #1445 Re: Response to Medium format life expectancy, Does = "Cameracide?" FS Friday: 2 Nice Hasselblad System Cases Re: AW: [HUG] lenses and manufacturing dates Re: Camera tripods for the Hasselblad FS Friday: Wista Field Camera & Stuff Re: [HUG] Film spacing problems... sometimes Re: [HUG] Film spacing problems... sometimes Merry Christmas to the LUG HUG and LEG! RE: [HUG] Merry Christmas to the LUG HUG and LEG! Misc. H-blad items for sale Re: Tripod & Head Items for Sale Re: [HUG] Camera tripods for the Hasselblad Re: [HUG] Re: Response to Medium format life expectancy, Does = "Cameracide?" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 01:05:03 -0800 From: "Frank Filippone" To: "Hasselblad Users Group" Subject: Hasselblad, Nikon FS....Ebay Message-ID: Look at these pages to find the items I am selling off....make sure the entire location is taken to your browser.....it will probably be truncated into 2 or more lines........ http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&us erid=red735i@earthlink.net&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25 Frank Filippone red735i@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:37:58 +0100 From: "Dr. Ulrik Neupert" To: Subject: AW: [HUG] Camera tripods for the Hasselblad Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C18A03.2CB244A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Thomas, I have only one tripod. I use the Gitzo 326 with Arca Swiss B1 ballhead and an old style Hasselblad quick coupling. This combination is rigid enough for a Hasselblad with 500 mm lens and can be carried strapped to my Lowe Pro Phototrecker AW. A Gitzo 1348 would be a lightweight alternative (though more costly). Ulrik > Hi, > > I am new to the list, and a new (proud) owner of a 503cxi/A12/80 C T* > outfit. I'd like to put this system on a stable platform, and am > wondering > what type of camera tripods _travelling_ photographers typically use or > would recommend with the Hasselblad. Any guidance and advice is greatly > appreciated. > > Many thanks and greetings from freezing Ithaca, NY. > > Thomas Hahn > th99@cornell.edu > ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C18A03.2CB244A0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Neupert, Ulrik.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Neupert, Ulrik.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Neupert;Ulrik;;Dr. FN:Neupert, Ulrik ORG:Fraunhofer INT;Technologieanalysen u. -vorausschau NOTE;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:=0D=0A TEL;WORK;VOICE:02251/18-224 TEL;HOME;VOICE:02254/969257 TEL;CELL;VOICE:0177-3288009 TEL;WORK;FAX:02251/18-377 TEL;HOME;FAX:0180/505255803418 ADR;WORK:;;Appelsgarten 2;Euskirchen;;53879 LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Appelsgarten 2=0D=0AEuskirchen 53879 ADR;HOME:;;Trierer Str. 45;Weilerswist;;53919 LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Trierer Str. 45=0D=0AWeilerswist 53919 URL;WORK:http://www.int.fhg.de/ EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:ulrik.neupert@int.fhg.de REV:20011121T114905Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C18A03.2CB244A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:30:10 +0100 From: "Dr. Ulrik Neupert" To: Subject: AW: [HUG] lenses and manufacturing dates Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C18A02.161272C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marc, I would not be very optimistic about material for old Zeiss lenses from Zeiss. When I asked them a few years ago when I had trouble with my old 250 Sonnar they told me that their lens documentarion starts with Ser.-No. 4000 000. Ulrik > > It is important to remember that the lenses in question are not Hasselblad > products, but Zeiss lenses mounted to fit Hasselblad cameras. Thus, Zeiss > records still exist for these lenses though Zeiss is certainly not very > forthcoming with their material. > > Marc > ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C18A02.161272C0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Neupert, Ulrik.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Neupert, Ulrik.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Neupert;Ulrik;;Dr. FN:Neupert, Ulrik ORG:Fraunhofer INT;Technologieanalysen u. -vorausschau NOTE;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:=0D=0A TEL;WORK;VOICE:02251/18-224 TEL;HOME;VOICE:02254/969257 TEL;CELL;VOICE:0177-3288009 TEL;WORK;FAX:02251/18-377 TEL;HOME;FAX:0180/505255803418 ADR;WORK:;;Appelsgarten 2;Euskirchen;;53879 LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Appelsgarten 2=0D=0AEuskirchen 53879 ADR;HOME:;;Trierer Str. 45;Weilerswist;;53919 LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Trierer Str. 45=0D=0AWeilerswist 53919 URL;WORK:http://www.int.fhg.de/ EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:ulrik.neupert@int.fhg.de REV:20011121T114905Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C18A02.161272C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 02:44:32 -0700 From: Peter Rosenthal To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Film spacing problems... sometimes Message-ID: > One of my A12 backs has an occasional film spacing problem. This back was > bought about 6 months ago serviced immediately by Brad Sherman. You no doubt paid for a warranty and Brad would probably like to know it isn't working. Take (or send) it to Brad and see what he has to say. Minor variations between frames is common, even normal, but cutting off whole or partial frames is never justified (an A-11.5?). Has it done this since you bought it or is this a newish problem? Is the frame spacing just very large throughout the whole roll or do you get occasional very large spacing between certain frames? Does the counter stop exactly on each counter number or is it slightly off? Does it sound normal? As far as adjustments go...there is only one true adjustment in the mechanism (depending on the vintage). The counter disc needs to stop at "1" the exact moment the wind lever stops winding. To put it another way; the little white flag needs to show up exactly when the lever stops winding. Everything else is lubrication quality and making sure several critical parts are not excessively worn, bent, or broken. It does happen. Other than these things, everything should take care of itself. Good luck. Peter (off on my honeymoon!! Yikes!!) -- Peter Rosenthal PR Camera Repair 111 E. Aspen #1 Flagstaff, AZ 86001 928 779-5263 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:47:00 +1000 From: "Ken & Shell McC" To: Subject: Re: My Thanks to the List Members Message-ID: <006101c18a04$708744e0$0e8e0c3f@3s1211s> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C18A58.4183DB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, I'd just like to say thanks very much to all those list members who = helped me with lots of information about buying a second-hand 500C/M. It = was crucial and prevented me from buying a lemon!! A Merry Christmas to = all, Kind Regards, Ken McConville. ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C18A58.4183DB00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear all,
 
I'd just like to say thanks = very much to=20 all those list members who helped me with lots of information about = buying a=20 second-hand 500C/M. It was crucial and prevented me from buying a = lemon!! A=20 Merry Christmas to all,
 
Kind Regards,
 
Ken=20 McConville.
------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C18A58.4183DB00-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:51:36 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Per_=D6fverbeck?= To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] Film spacing problems... sometimes Message-ID: <200112210951.fBL9pad06446@d1o873.telia.com> Yep, I battled, lost, and made a strategic retreat.... I own 3 fairly new A12:s. None of them gives any problems whatever with=20= Fuji (Neopan 400, Velvia, or Provia 100), but when I tried Delta 400 a=20= couple of months ago, I also lost that last frame every time with 2 of=20= the backs (the 3rd was barely acceptable). The force needed on the=20 camera crank was at least double that of other films. Indoor or outdoor=20= temperature made no difference. I=B4m very familiar with Hassy gear=20 (started with a 1000F 30 years ago), so I=B4m confident I load = correctly. =20 My Rollei 2.8E does handle Delta, but even there with much larger force=20= needed for winding. I decided to spare my equipment that extra force (after all, they are=20 cameras, not jeep winches...) and left Delta alone. No problems=20 whatever since then, so I see no need for service or adjustment. Per fredag den 21 december 2001, kl 07:24, skrev David Meiland: > One of my A12 backs has an occasional film spacing problem. This back=20= > was > bought about 6 months ago serviced immediately by Brad Sherman. I = first > used it quite a few times with Portra 160 and got 12 negs every time. = I > very recently used it with Delta 100 and got 11 (actually 11.5). A=20 > previous > owner of this back filed a couple of tiny notches into the window, so = i=20 > can > tell which one is having the problem. I am quite sure I load the film=20= > and > advance it correctly. All my gear is carefully handled and stored. I=20= > should > probably just send the back in for re-servicing, but it bugs me. Is = film > spacing that difficult to adjust, or that easy to knock out of=20 > adjustment? > Do film backing papers and base thicknesses vary enough to make a big > difference? Anyone else battled this problem? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:18:13 +0800 From: "Stein" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Film spacing problems... sometimes Message-ID: <002601c18a0a$5c540200$e8b237cb@oemcomputer> Dear Peter Rosenthal, Congratulations on the honeymoon. But I am puzzled about the Yikes. I remember Ouch, and Omigod, and Oh Dear Not Again, but Yikes is new. Have you put something on backwards in the dark? Uncle Dick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:54:14 -0000 From: "Simon Lamb" To: Subject: FS: Hasselblad 503CW & Winder CW & hoods Message-ID: <00c301c18a0d$d49fe0a0$31040a0a@office.phoenixdb.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C18A0D.D4909E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have for sale the following items: 503CW c/w 80mm f/2.8 CFE / Waist Level Finder / A12 back =A31,800 A12 back =A3350 Winder CW =A3500 Hoods for 80mm and 180mm =A340 each Everything is absolutely mint with boxes, bags, books etc. Would rather sell complete than split. Replies off list please to simon@sclamb.com Simon ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C18A0D.D4909E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have for sale=20 the following items:

503CW c/w 80mm f/2.8 CFE / Waist Level = Finder / A12=20 back  =A31,800
A12 back =A3350
Winder CW =A3500
Hoods for = 80mm and 180mm=20 =A340 each

Everything is absolutely mint with boxes, bags, books=20 etc.

Would rather sell complete than split.  Replies off = list please=20 to
simon@sclamb.com

Simon
------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C18A0D.D4909E60-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:33:11 +0100 From: "Q.G. de Bakker" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Film spacing problems... sometimes Message-ID: <002701c18a24$35041400$d4e6f1c3@qnu350> David Meiland wrote: > One of my A12 backs has an occasional film spacing problem. This back was > bought about 6 months ago serviced immediately by Brad Sherman. I first > used it quite a few times with Portra 160 and got 12 negs every time. I > very recently used it with Delta 100 and got 11 (actually 11.5). A previous > owner of this back filed a couple of tiny notches into the window, so i can > tell which one is having the problem. I am quite sure I load the film and > advance it correctly. All my gear is carefully handled and stored. I should > probably just send the back in for re-servicing, but it bugs me. Is film > spacing that difficult to adjust, or that easy to knock out of adjustment? > Do film backing papers and base thicknesses vary enough to make a big > difference? Anyone else battled this problem? Apparently Ilford films do this. Nothing wrong with the back. A quote from a recent discussion on Photo.net: "I pulled out my 501CM manual. Page 10 under magazine tips - "Align the arrow on the paper backing of all Illford black & white films against the oblong index (and no further) on the spool clamp bar and not the triangular index as normal." I pulled out my new style A12 back a found the red oblong index. It is located on the upper left edge of the spool clamp. If it were a clock and the triangular index is 12 o'clock, the oblong index is at 10 o'clock. Therefore, if you have an older style back line the paper arrows at 10 o'clock. " ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:39:17 -0500 From: "Patrick R. McKee" To: Subject: Re: Friday FS Message-ID: <00dc01c18a24$e3c55260$0101a8c0@pavilion> Hello, We are regular Hasselblad USA Dealers located in Toms River, NJ and offer Free Overnight Shipping (US) - Fed Ex or Airborne. A few items for sale - Special Holiday Prices 55105 D-Flash - $481. reduced $100. = $381. 42217 Matte D Split Screen - $314. reduced $64. = $250. 44105 Winder 503CW 503 CXi - $1036. reduced $200. = $836. 20062 150mm CFi - $2924. reduced $524. = $2400. Web Special - XPan Kit - $1495. New Full USA Warranty. FedEx Overnight - 1 in stock. All new - full USA Warranty. Toll Free - 1-877 - 44 A TRIP Taking calls Noon-Midnight Eastern Thank you, Pat McKee Visa, MasterCard, Amex, Discover www.photonewsnetwork.com www.hasselbladstore.com Leica, Canon, Hasselblad, Rollei, Minox, Sea & Sea ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:48:20 -0500 From: "Austin Franklin" To: "Q.G. de Bakker" , Subject: RE: [HUG] Film spacing problems... sometimes Message-ID: > Apparently Ilford films do this. Nothing wrong with the back. > > A quote from a recent discussion on Photo.net: > > "I pulled out my 501CM manual. Page 10 under magazine tips - > "Align the arrow on the paper backing of all Illford black & white films > against the oblong index (and no further) on the spool clamp bar > and not the > triangular index as normal." > > I pulled out my new style A12 back a found the red oblong index. It is > located on the upper left edge of the spool clamp. If it were a clock and > the triangular index is 12 o'clock, the oblong index is at 10 o'clock. > > Therefore, if you have an older style back line the paper arrows at 10 > o'clock. " Hi Q.G., Yes, but that's BAD information. It's the TAKE-UP SPOOL that matters, not the film. If you have an Ilford take-up spool, the information is correct, if you have Ilford film, and a Kodak take-up spool, the information is incorrect/misleading. Austin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:49:16 EST From: DaveHodge@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: hasselblad V1 #1445 Message-ID: <57.3ce00b4.295497dc@aol.com> In a message dated 12/21/01 3:08:34 AM, hasselblad@kelvin.net writes: << I am new to the list, and a new (proud) owner of a 503cxi/A12/80 C T* outfit. I'd like to put this system on a stable platform, and am wondering what type of camera tripods _travelling_ photographers typically use or would recommend with the Hasselblad. >> I don't have a specific recommendation for a tripod. But you should get one of the universal camera adapters (I got mine from KEH) that mate with the bottom of the Hasselblad, RB67 and others. You attach the adapter to the tripod, then the camera slides into the adapter. Very fast to use. Best regards. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:56:30 EST From: COHIBA7@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Response to Medium format life expectancy, Does = "Cameracide?" Message-ID: <18e.dfe18c.2954998e@aol.com> --part1_18e.dfe18c.2954998e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cpj@firetec.com wrote, in part: The eventual switch to digital in the larger sizes is still only "a better and more flexible way to record images." We're not talking about a cure for cancer or a faster way to get to the moon. Recording images is a very small part of activity by a very small number of people, worldwide and relatively speaking. No one in this thread has really addressed the economic "impact" (granted, trivial after 9/11 and in the overall scheme of life) on those few of us fortunate enough to own, use, buy, sell, trade, etc., our beloved Hasselblad systems. I have heard much talk, particularly at local camera shows, of the dropping prices (e.g., in the real world, eBay, etc.) caused by the digital "revolution." For example, a 40 CF FLE, mint in box seen recently at a local camera show, reduced to an asking price of $2200 from $2700. The rationale from the known high priced reseller? "No one is buying medium format anymore" said the disgruntled dealer with an air of dismissing authoritativeness. We all know that people are buying medium format but I wonder if this is an unjustified panic response? Will we end users benefit? Certainly we have all enjoyed the resale value of our Swedish black boxes and their attendant components when upgrading and/or adding on. Certainly, this is not a heavy point in light of the overall scheme of things in the world today and is relevant, as cpj@firetec.com said, to only a very small part of activity by a very small number of people, worldwide and relatively speaking. Nonetheless, it seems to affect those of us in that apparently dwindling minority and as such, I wonder how others feel about digital's potential economic impact on the value of our equipment now and in the years to come. Happy holidays and peace to all of you. Thanks for the great threads throughout the year! RL Demsey --part1_18e.dfe18c.2954998e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cpj@firetec.com wrote, in part:

The eventual switch to digital in the larger sizes is still only "a better and more flexible way to record images." We're not talking about a cure for cancer or a faster way to get to the moon. Recording images is a very small part of activity by a very small number of people, worldwide and relatively speaking.

No one in this thread has really addressed the economic "impact" (granted, trivial after 9/11 and in the overall scheme of life) on those few of us fortunate enough to own, use, buy, sell, trade, etc., our beloved Hasselblad systems.  I have heard much talk, particularly at local camera shows, of the dropping prices (e.g., in the real world, eBay, etc.) caused by the digital "revolution."  For example, a 40 CF FLE, mint in box seen recently at a local camera show, reduced to an asking price of $2200 from $2700.  The rationale from the known high priced reseller?  "No one is buying medium format anymore" said the disgruntled dealer with an air of dismissing authoritativeness.  We all know that people are buying medium format but I wonder if this is an unjustified panic response?  Will we end users benefit?  Certainly we have all enjoyed the resale value of our Swedish black boxes and their attendant components when upgrading and/or adding on.  Certainly, this is not a heavy point in light of the overall scheme of things in the world today and is relevant, as cpj@firetec.com said, to only a very small part of activity by a very small number of people, worldwide and relatively speaking.  Nonetheless, it seems to affect those of us in that apparently dwindling minority and as such, I wonder how others feel about digital's potential economic impact on the value of our equipment now and in the years to come.

Happy holidays and peace to all of you.  Thanks for the great threads throughout the year!

RL Demsey
 --part1_18e.dfe18c.2954998e_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:08:49 EST From: COHIBA7@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: FS Friday: 2 Nice Hasselblad System Cases Message-ID: <139.69c47a7.29549c71@aol.com> For sale... 2 Hasselblad cases... The first being the large black system case 19 x 26 x 5.5 inches and having Hasselblad code number 58092 (Nordin page 236 item 565). Condition shows some wear. Price is $200 plus actual shipping costs. The second is the most recent version of the tan leather, dual combination locks, attache case 15.25 x 11.5 x 5.25 and is mint in its original box. Hasselblad code number 58386 (Nordin page 235 item 522). I paid $450 plus shipping when new. Price is $360 plus actual shipping cost. I can send a photo should one be needed. Please email directly to me off list. Thank you. RL Demsey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:13:52 +0000 From: Marc James Small To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: AW: [HUG] lenses and manufacturing dates Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20011221091352.015a60f8@roanoke.infi.net> At 09:30 AM 12/21/01 +0100, Dr. Ulrik Neupert wrote: >Marc, >I would not be very optimistic about material for old Zeiss lenses from >Zeiss. When I asked them a few years ago when I had trouble with my old 250 >Sonnar they told me that their lens documentarion starts with Ser.-No. 4000 >000. Well, we KNOW that this simply isn't true, as they have, on occasion, been forthcoming with much earlier number ranges. Marc msmall@roanoke.infi.net FAX: +540/343-7315 Cha robh b=E0s fir gun ghr=E0s fir! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:54:44 EST From: PeteScherm@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net, pluesch_sessel@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Camera tripods for the Hasselblad Message-ID: <103.e2e94f6.2954a734@aol.com> Thomas at pluesch_sessel@hotmail.com writes: << am wondering what type of camera tripods _travelling_ photographers typically use or would recommend with the Hasselblad. >> Thomas, After a variety of tripods, I finally settled on the Bogen/Manfrotto 3221W tripod with the 3047 pan head. I've tried ballheads but, as a retired engineer, I prefer to deal with one variable at a time. The ballhead is never "perfect" the first time, but you can't tweak with it.....everything goes back to 'loose'. I photograph in Ireland regularly, and disassemble the tripod for packing in the luggage. When there, I re-assemble and attach the Hassy more-or-less permanently. I have previously rationalized that I didn't need the possibility of the quick-release plate quick-releasing when I didn't want it to......so I tapped and machine-screwed the QRP permanently to the head. I install the camera onto the head, and it remains there for the duration of the trip. I always rent a car with rear doors and a wide enough seat for me to place the camera-cum-tripod right across the seats, ready for action. The unit goes everywhere with me after that (the cushioned tripod legs are comfortable on the shoulder), until I'm ready to disassemble and fly back to the U.S. Works for me. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 07:04:08 -0800 From: Mike Kirwan To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: FS Friday: Wista Field Camera & Stuff Message-ID: Got to feed my Hasselblad and family so: Large Format Outfit for Sale: Zone VI Field Camera (modified Wista 45DX) Front & Rear movements (tilt, swing & shift) with double balanced tripod base, Ground Glass & Fresnel 90mm f8.0 Schneider Angulon Serial No. 8961528 in Synchro-Compur Shutter (No lens board) 165mm f4.5 Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar. Serial No. 1307518 in Top Set Compur Shutter 210mm f5.8 Fuji Fujinon-L Serial No. 254147 in Copal Shutter (No Lens board) Toyo 4x Loupe Polaroid 545 Back Dark Cloth Beautiful camera. Outfit great for backpacking, hiking and studio work. All lenses and shutters are in good condition. no scratches, fungus or seperation Asking $1,300 US. Would prefer to sell as complete outfit but will consider splitting or trading. Mail me if you are interested or have questions Mike Kirwan Concord, California mkirwan@pacbell.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:16:23 -0500 From: Shane Davis To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] Film spacing problems... sometimes Message-ID: <3907436486.1008929783@[141.211.86.177]> I have an A12 that I bought new a couple of years ago. I, too, handle the equipment and load film with great care, taking up slack (gently) and following all other instructions and recommendations in the camera manual and in Wildi's book. Sometimes I get 11 frames, sometimes 11.x, sometimes (usually) 12. I haven't carefully correlated spacing problems with types of film, but I know they have happened not a few times with Ektachrome VS100, and has not happened at all since I have been using Technical Pan almost exclusively. Technical Pan has an unusually thin base, or feels like it does when I handle it for developing. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:51:39 -0800 From: "Tourtelot" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Film spacing problems... sometimes Message-ID: <001f01c18a3f$c2d694e0$6401a8c0@attbi.com> Ah, this is all very interesting. I recently did the unthinkable and change two variables at once. A new 12 mag, just purchased, and Ilford XP2 film (for the first time.) I was ready to return the mag as defective, to turn it was so brutal sounding and tough. But I will, today, run a roll of VP through it and see how that does. Film thickness, ahhh! It certainly has to do with how quietly a motion picture camera runs (Kodak is quiet, Fuji in noisy) and being the soundman, that is always important to me. But I hadn't thought it over to my still cameras. More soon. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Öfverbeck" To: Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [HUG] Film spacing problems... sometimes Yep, I battled, lost, and made a strategic retreat.... I own 3 fairly new A12:s. None of them gives any problems whatever with Fuji (Neopan 400, Velvia, or Provia 100), but when I tried Delta 400 a couple of months ago, I also lost that last frame every time with 2 of the backs (the 3rd was barely acceptable). The force needed on the camera crank was at least double that of other films. Indoor or outdoor temperature made no difference. I´m very familiar with Hassy gear (started with a 1000F 30 years ago), so I´m confident I load correctly. My Rollei 2.8E does handle Delta, but even there with much larger force needed for winding. I decided to spare my equipment that extra force (after all, they are cameras, not jeep winches...) and left Delta alone. No problems whatever since then, so I see no need for service or adjustment. Per fredag den 21 december 2001, kl 07:24, skrev David Meiland: > One of my A12 backs has an occasional film spacing problem. This back > was > bought about 6 months ago serviced immediately by Brad Sherman. I first > used it quite a few times with Portra 160 and got 12 negs every time. I > very recently used it with Delta 100 and got 11 (actually 11.5). A > previous > owner of this back filed a couple of tiny notches into the window, so i > can > tell which one is having the problem. I am quite sure I load the film > and > advance it correctly. All my gear is carefully handled and stored. I > should > probably just send the back in for re-servicing, but it bugs me. Is film > spacing that difficult to adjust, or that easy to knock out of > adjustment? > Do film backing papers and base thicknesses vary enough to make a big > difference? Anyone else battled this problem? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:44:06 -0500 (EST) From: Rei Shinozuka To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (Leica Users Group (LUG)), leica@topica.com (Leica Enthusiasts Group (LEG)), hasselblad@kelvin.net (Hasselblad Users Group (HUG)) Subject: Merry Christmas to the LUG HUG and LEG! Message-ID: <200112211744.MAA21670@tigercat.nyfir.pwj.com> my Christmas card photos with the best Christmas wishes to all of you wherever you may be this Christmas day. God bless you all. http://www.shinozuka-family.com under "Christmas Card Photos" -rei ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:07:37 -0800 From: Mike Kirwan To: shino@ubspw.com, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE: [HUG] Merry Christmas to the LUG HUG and LEG! Message-ID: Great picture, still has me smiling Best wishes for the holiday season. God bless Mike Kirwan & Family -----Original Message----- From: Rei Shinozuka [mailto:shino@ubspw.com] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:44 AM To: Leica Users Group (LUG); Leica Enthusiasts Group (LEG); Hasselblad Users Group (HUG) Subject: [HUG] Merry Christmas to the LUG HUG and LEG! my Christmas card photos with the best Christmas wishes to all of you wherever you may be this Christmas day. God bless you all. http://www.shinozuka-family.com under "Christmas Card Photos" -rei ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:03:30 -0800 (PST) From: S Gardner To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Misc. H-blad items for sale Message-ID: <20011221200330.65303.qmail@web12305.mail.yahoo.com> List of Hasselblad items for sale as of 12/21/01, 15:00 ET. All items in proper working order unless noted. Prices in U.S. dollars. Shipping additional. Please email scottgee1@yahoo.com with any questions. BOOKS: "The Hasselblad Manual", Ernst Wildi, Fifth (current) edition - $40 in like new condition. Hardcover. "The Hasselblad Way", H. Freytag, Fifth edition (1973) - $20 in used, not abused condition. Hardcover with dust jacket. BACKS: I have two more black backs, one A12 and one A24. Both need minor repair/adjustment and will be available AFTER they are repaired. Please advise interest. MISC: Hasselblad ProShade 6093 (current) with B60. In box. $195 Maxwell screen for 500CM and later bodies. 15mm bright circle in center, gridlines spaced by 12mm and offset from edges by 8mm. $125 Metz 45 CL3 flash with bracket and fresh NiCad and alkaline clusters. $175 Sunpak HA-2D shoe mount for Hasselblad OTF cameras. $50 Hasselblad B50 Proxars .5m and 1.0m with caps. $70 Hasselblad/Zeiss B50 filters: Orange, Red, Green, CB12. $20 each. Or $70 for all and the top and bottom cover caps will be included. Hasselblad spirit level $35 Monte Zucker portrait vignette kit. Fits B50 and 58mm. $29 References at ebay and photo.net Thanks for your interest!/Scott Gardner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:51:53 -0500 From: Howard Blumenthal To: Subject: Re: Tripod & Head Message-ID: Balancing my desire for some sturdy with a hope for reasonable weight and flexibility-- and not spending a fortune... Manfrotto 3001B Pro, I think it cost me less than $150. Add the spikey feet for another $20 or so. Head is just wonderful-- three easily adjustable knobs with rather precise control on the Manfrotto 410 smaller-sized gear head (also known as 3275). Head is about $160-175. Whole package was around $350. It's beefy, sturdy, flexible, and weighs about 7 or 8 pounds. Too heavy for hiking (I think), but really superb for just about every other Hasselblad use. I'm really happy with this setup. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:56:25 -0500 From: Barry Schmetter To: Subject: Items for Sale Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20011221204931.00a7f1e0@mail.maxinter.net> I have a couple of Hasselblad items for sale, both are extras of items I already have and are new. Shipping charges are additional (actual cost). Hasselblad SCA 390 cable, new -- $95 The Hasselblad Manual 5th (current) edition - Wildi, new -- $34 Barry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 10:44:52 +0800 From: "Stein" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Camera tripods for the Hasselblad Message-ID: <008201c18a92$d28d04c0$81b237cb@oemcomputer> Dear Tom, As far as tripods go I am a great fan of: 1. The Leitz Tiltall. The big sized one - see the B&H advertisement. All metal, light enough to carry about. Corrective movement for tilted horizons. And the center post slips out to make a well balanced mace. 2. Gitzo Studex something or other and the big tilting head. This is too big to hike with but great for the studio. Will hold up to an 8x10 camera easily. When the punters see this tripod they know you are a photographer - or a man who collects old machine guns. 3. Fore tripod mast from a British battlecruiser. Try to get the dealer to cut off the spotting top and rangefinder before you take delivery as it makes the unit a trifle heavy in the backpack. Avoid the American cage masts as they tend to whip in typhoons. Uncle Dick PS: I do own the Tiltall and the Studex so this posting isn't ALL rubbish.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 11:12:11 +0800 From: "Stein" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Re: Response to Medium format life expectancy, Does = "Cameracide?" Message-ID: <009601c18a96$8df29f60$81b237cb@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01C18AD9.80D89B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friends, RL raises a good point about the vagaries of the economic situation = with the new digital business and the possible loss of value as the = world changes around us. I have decided to apply the Hormel solution to = the problem. It is an approach that is equally useful with any form of consumer = goods - cameras, electronic equipment, motor cars, clothing, etc. While = it is not generally encouraged by the manufacturers - indeed it makes = some of them absolutely furious - it IS legal in most states and can be = defended in court. I'll explain how it works with Hasselblad cameras by referring back = to the Hormel analogy; 1. First, you catch your pig. Or buy it. In the case of the porker = you buy it at the current market price, but in the case of the = Hasselblad you can search for a used bargain in all the current places. = If you can buy your pig from a farmer who needs the money badly you can = bargain him down. If he is panicking that the current market is = depressed you can bargain him down further. Make panicky sounds and see = what happens. 2. Second, you cook and can your pig. Or in the case of the = Hasselblad you go out and take pictures. And the next day you do it = again, and the next day.... 3. And just as the Hormel people use up everthing but the squeal ( = Presumably the sound of Ilford film going through a tight magazine....) = so do you. You use the HB until the seals need replacing and the shutter = needs oiling and the leatherette has worn so thin that you could read a = Swedish newspaper through it - and then you get Rosenthal to repair it = and you go out and do it again. 4. And with a bit of luck you fall off the perch before your = Hasselblad outfit does. And you leave a double-car garage of fabulous = pictures for your heirs to marvel over.* You can do this with old Fords - I am in the process of using up a = Falcon ute - in defiance of the dealers who want you to trade in every = two years. You can wear all your old clothing until they either come = back into fashion or fall into gun rags. You can watch TV on the 1957 = AWA set provided you like monochrome. You can even drink very old brandy = and champagne if you really have to..... Treat your camera room as a sort of Bight of Benin; Beware, beware the Bight of Benin Not all comes out what ever goes in. Uncle Dick * Remember to avoid cataloguing or numbering your negatives. Give = your relatives something to do.... ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01C18AD9.80D89B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Friends,
 
     RL raises a = good point=20 about the vagaries of the economic situation with the new digital = business and=20 the possible loss of value as the world changes around us. I have = decided to=20 apply the Hormel solution to the problem.
 
     It is an = approach that is=20 equally useful with any form of consumer goods - cameras, = electronic=20 equipment, motor cars, clothing, etc. While it is not generally = encouraged by=20 the manufacturers - indeed it makes some of them absolutely furious - it = IS=20 legal in most states and can be defended in court.
 
     I'll explain = how it works=20 with Hasselblad cameras by referring back to the Hormel = analogy;
 
1.     First, you = catch your=20 pig. Or buy it. In the case of the porker you buy it at the current = market=20 price, but in the case of the Hasselblad you can search for a used = bargain in=20 all the current places. If you can buy your pig from a farmer who = needs the=20 money badly you can bargain him down. If he is panicking that the = current market=20 is depressed you can bargain him down further. Make panicky sounds and = see what=20 happens.
 
2.     Second, you = cook and can=20 your pig. Or in the case of the Hasselblad you go out and take pictures. = And the=20 next day you do it again, and the next day....
 
3.     And just as = the Hormel=20 people use up everthing but the squeal ( Presumably the sound of Ilford = film=20 going through a tight magazine....) so do you. You use the HB until the = seals=20 need replacing and the shutter needs oiling and the leatherette has worn = so thin=20 that you could read a Swedish newspaper through it - and then you get = Rosenthal=20 to repair it and you go out and do it again.
 
4.     And with a = bit of luck=20 you fall off the perch before your Hasselblad outfit does. And you leave = a=20 double-car garage of fabulous pictures for your heirs to marvel=20 over.*
 
    You can do this with = old Fords -=20 I am in the process of using up a Falcon ute - in defiance of the = dealers who=20 want you to trade in every two years. You can wear all your old clothing = until=20 they either come back into fashion or fall into gun rags. You can watch = TV on=20 the 1957 AWA set provided you like monochrome. You can even drink very = old=20 brandy and champagne if you really have to.....
 
    Treat your camera = room as a sort=20 of Bight of Benin;
 
     Beware, beware = the Bight=20 of Benin
    Not all comes out = what ever goes=20 in.
 
    Uncle = Dick
 
*    Remember to avoid = cataloguing=20 or numbering your negatives. Give your relatives something to=20 do....
 
 
 
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