hasselblad Sun, 23 Dec 2001 Volume 1 : Number 1447 In this issue: Bight of Benin Ansel Adams at 100 Re: [HUG] Ansel Adams at 100 Lens diffusion for portraits RE: [HUG] Lens diffusion for portraits lens diffusion for portraits Re: [HUG] Lens diffusion for portraits Re: [HUG] Lens diffusion for portraits Film Spacing Problem Striking out with digital imaging Re: [HUG] Lens diffusion for portraits Re: [HUG] Bight of Benin Re: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging RE: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging Re: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging RE: [HUG] Film Spacing Problem [Fwd: Re: [HUG] Lens diffusion for portraits] RE: [Fwd: Re: [HUG] Lens diffusion for portraits] Film Scanner NEwZgrp ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:45:46 +0530 From: "Sharookh Mehta" To: "hasselblad" Subject: Message-ID: <000401c18ae3$658663c0$310ec5cb@firstbom3> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C18B10.7C7BA4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK - EVERYBODY,=20 HERE'S WISHING ALL IN THE HUG A MERRY X'MAS AND A HAPPY (PEACEFUL) NEW = YEAR.... ALL THE BEST SHAROOKH ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C18B10.7C7BA4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Ralph ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 08:38:49 -0800 From: "Oliver Bryk" To: "Leica-Users" , "Hasselblad Users Group" Subject: Ansel Adams at 100 Message-ID: <001f01c18b07$22088460$6401a8c0@attbi.com> Check out www.sfmoma.org/adams Oliver Bryk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 11:41:02 -0600 From: "Mayo" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Ansel Adams at 100 Message-ID: <001401c18b0f$d36b9d20$6400a8c0@mn.mediaone.net> > Check out www.sfmoma.org/adams > > Oliver Bryk > Yes, this is a wonderful site! I had the good fortune to visit see the actual exhibit at SFMOMA this September. If you are in SF prior to the exhibit closing on January 13, 2002, I highly recommend that you take the time to see it. Rather than just exhibiting Ansel's familiar published works, the exhibit (and the website) explores some things that people likely have not seen before. The exhibit is presented more or less as a chronological journey through Adam's career. From photographs by people that he was influenced/inspired by to photographs by current photographers who he himself inspired. There are very early Sierra Club outing works, including what are essentially the actual 'scrapbooks' of images from the early trips into Yosemite. Most interestingly though, to me, was the exploration of alternate (rejected) exposures of some very familiar published images (along with reasoning for choosing one image over another). Not to be missed is the comparison of the difference in printing techniques from Adam's early career to later in his life. The insight into what Ansel 'saw' in a particular image as a young man, versus what he 'saw' as an old man was quite moving. Well worth an afternoon of your time! Happy holidays to all! Rich Mayo ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 10:49:53 -0800 From: "Tourtelot" To: Subject: Lens diffusion for portraits Message-ID: <001201c18b19$718b91a0$6401a8c0@attbi.com> What is the experience of the group on putting a net on the rear of the lens for shooting portraits of women? It is an old trick, mostly using a small square of black nylon hose (stocking) material, sometimes white, tack-glued to across the rear element of the lens. Anyone use it and how do you tack the material to the lens barrel? Thanks, Douglas Tourtelot, CAS Seattle, WA tourtelot1@attbi.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:12:06 -0000 From: "ian.barnes" To: Subject: RE: [HUG] Lens diffusion for portraits Message-ID: Out of interest I was given a front diffusion filter made from a piece of thin card. Hole in middle and some fine mesh stocking (poss 15 denier?) streched over the said. Glued in place with superglue and slid into a cokin holder. Works very well but you need to open up half a stop. I suspect the closer to the element the better. I really don't know about on the rear of the lens although in my film/tv days we used to routinely add Wratten 85b (orange) to the back of the lens via a slot.Please don't do anything permenant to your rear element without advice. Good luck and I await with interest any other input. Ian -----Original Message----- From: Tourtelot [mailto:tourtelot1@attbi.com] Sent: 22 December 2001 18:50 To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: [HUG] Lens diffusion for portraits What is the experience of the group on putting a net on the rear of the lens for shooting portraits of women? It is an old trick, mostly using a small square of black nylon hose (stocking) material, sometimes white, tack-glued to across the rear element of the lens. Anyone use it and how do you tack the material to the lens barrel? Thanks, Douglas Tourtelot, CAS Seattle, WA tourtelot1@attbi.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:14:18 -0000 From: "ian.barnes" To: "Hasselblad@Kelvin. Net" Subject: lens diffusion for portraits Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C18B1C.DA7DB0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Out of interest I was given a front diffusion filter made from a piece of thin card. Hole in middle and some fine mesh stocking (poss 15 denier?) streched over the said. Glued in place with superglue and slid into a cokin holder. Works very well but you need to open up half a stop. I suspect the closer to the element the better. I really don't know about on the rear of the lens although in my film/tv days we used to routinely add Wratten 85b (orange) to the back of the lens via a slot.Please don't do anything permenant to your rear element without advice. Good luck and I await with interest any other input. 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I was thinking hot glue myself???? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tourtelot" To: Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 10:49 AM Subject: [HUG] Lens diffusion for portraits > What is the experience of the group on putting a net on the rear of the lens > for shooting portraits of women? It is an old trick, mostly using a small > square of black nylon hose (stocking) material, sometimes white, tack-glued > to across the rear element of the lens. Anyone use it and how do you tack > the material to the lens barrel? > > Thanks, > > Douglas Tourtelot, CAS > Seattle, WA > tourtelot1@attbi.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:10:26 -0800 From: Malcolm & Sylvia Brickwood To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] Lens diffusion for portraits Message-ID: <3C252F02.8010005@worldnet.att.net> That's an interesting coincidence. I am just about to try this trick but over the lens of my enlarger which is where I have heard of it being done. I'll report how it turns out. Malcolm Santa Clara, CA Tourtelot wrote: > What is the experience of the group on putting a net on the rear of the lens > for shooting portraits of women? It is an old trick, mostly using a small > square of black nylon hose (stocking) material, sometimes white, tack-glued > to across the rear element of the lens. Anyone use it and how do you tack > the material to the lens barrel? > > Thanks, > > Douglas Tourtelot, CAS > Seattle, WA > tourtelot1@attbi.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:17:44 -0800 From: David Meiland To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Film Spacing Problem Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20011222171744.006b3e7c@mindspring.com> Well, I didn't expect so many responses to this one. How many of us are just secretly tolerating this bit of poor performance on the part of our much-vaunted machines, embarrassed to admit that what might be the world's nicest camera does this regularly? I mean, c'mon, how do I know if I have a Kodak or Ilford take up spool? I will definitely send the magazine in question back for a tune-up, but geez, even a Yashicamat 124 will give you 12 frames every time. I guess one possible solution in the short term is to wind the film a bit short of the starting line. This will be at least the second back that's needed another go-round with the mechanic (different mechanics, too). Grumble grumble. Thanks for the responses. May the gods grant you 12 frames, every time. Especially if you're doing a wedding. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:30:27 -0800 From: David Meiland To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Striking out with digital imaging Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20011222173027.006b3e7c@mindspring.com> Curious to see if I could make a good print from a 120 slide, I spent a futile 2 hours this afternoon and am convinced that medium format film is here to stay for quite a while. First, I scanned the slide, using a cheesy Epson 1200 Photo scanner (says it will do 2400 DPI, but I know it's not really true). The resulting file was 65 MB. Just rotating the thing to vertical took 4 minutes on my late-model PC. Cropping took another 3. Sharpening, another 5. Cloning was easy on an image this size, that's the only good part. By this time I was too bored to try adjusting the color, so I saved the image (2 minutes) and tried to print (Canon S800). Getting a print preview screen, 3 minutes. Adjusting the orientation of the paper, 3 minutes. On the first send to the printer, the machine froze. Restart, try again, and voila, I get a highly pixellated print on a $1 piece of paper. Scale down and re-print (15 minutes) and I get something that's not much better (from a 4800 x 4800 file). I tried a few other things, and the best print I got looks pathetic next to even an Ilfochrome reject. Now, I'm sure there are a lot of things I could learn about this, and I could certainly spend more money on hardware to get better scans and faster processing. Still, I'm persuaded that for what I want (medium to large prints, razor sharpness, wide tonal range, smashing color, zero pixels visible, highly archival, easily obtainable and repeatable, widely accepted by galleries and customers should I be lucky enough to have a few, and no teeth-gnashing or hair-pulling), the digital age has not arrived for me. It's still either off to a standard darkroom printer, or maybe off to one of the equally costly digital printers. Anyway, that's how I spent part of a rainy day. Anyone doing any better with this stuff? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:43:40 +0800 From: "Stein" To: , Subject: Re: [HUG] Lens diffusion for portraits Message-ID: <002f01c18b53$75dabb20$72b237cb@oemcomputer> Dear Malcolm, I used a diffuser - actually the Tiffen filter that I bolt onto the front of the Hasselblad lenses when I am confronting some serious pock marks - and kept it in constant motion during the exposure. It did soften the complexions but at the expense of smearing dark into the highlights rather than the other way around. Interesting for gothick portraits but strange otherwise. On balance I have decided to leave diffusion to the taking process rather than the printing. And on that thread - there was a question some time ago about resin filters. Cokin filters got a caning and everyone said to get different ones. I have a large number of Cokins that diffuse, smear, fog out, etc and if this is what you are looking for, they are ideal. The No.1 diffusion is very delicate in front of the Planar lenses - just enough breakdown to ease off the complexion for people of ...errr...well...oh, damnit - alright - people of my age. I have tried it on me and it makes me look better. The No.2 makes me look even better than that and when I combine the two with the bottom of a Captain Morgan rum bottle I end up looking positively handsome. Moral? Don't write off the Cokin company yet. Note - some people don't need diffusion. They are actually fuzzy around their own edges. Just open up a stop or two and light 'em from behind. I make this joke to all the belly dancers that come in the studio and the ratio of crying to laughing is now 3:2. Uncle Dick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:59:04 +0800 From: "Stein" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Bight of Benin Message-ID: <003a01c18b55$950b20a0$72b237cb@oemcomputer> Dear Ralph, Right-Oh. Though I am not sure if they make the cameras along the coast of West Africa. I believe that is where Victor Hasselblad AB is planning a retirement village for the employees from Gothenberg. Hence the quote. They calculated the amount of money that the Swedish government requires them to pay these old folks in taxes and pensions and then looked up Dengue Fever and Malaria in the encyclopedia. Who says the Swedes aren't astute now? Uncle Dick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 18:29:45 -0800 From: "Fritz Olenberger" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging Message-ID: <000501c18b59$af9f7de0$225a1518@santab1.ca.home.com> David: I tried some of these things on a 240MB file (that's almost 4 times the size of your file) that was generated by a drum scan of a 120 slide at 4000ppi, using a PC I got this summer. Using Photoshop 6.0, a crop took 8 seconds, a sharpen (unsharp mask) took 25 seconds, and a 90 degree rotation took 3 seconds. In this test, I purged RAM between operations (the first time around, a sharpen took 45 seconds because I did not purge the memory from the previous operation, and there was significant hard drive access). In Photoshop, I set the amount of RAM used by Photoshop to 80%. My PC has a 1.4GHz Athlon processor and 768MB of DDR RAM. It sounds like you ran out of RAM, and maybe your hard drive has a slow access time. I have had good luck with scanned 120 transparencies. I take the files to a local service bureau, where they make prints using a continuous-tone Chromira printer on silver-halide paper. Razor sharp 30"x30" prints. Wide tonal range (due to the drum scan, but the $3000 Polaroid Sprintscan 120 advertises a Dmax of over 4.0, I think). Smashing color. Zero pixels visable (due to the continuous-tone printer at 300dpi). Highly archival (printing on Fuji Crystal Archive paper). Don't give up on the digital age. You can do stuff easily digitally that is very difficult with standard darkroom printing, like eliminating con trails in scenics, eliminating in-laws from group portraits, smoothing wrinkles, eliminating zits, and so forth. You may not need a new computer. If you have less than 256MB of RAM, you might consider buying more. It's pretty cheap these days. -Fritz ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Meiland" To: Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 5:30 PM Subject: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging > Curious to see if I could make a good print from a 120 slide, I spent a > futile 2 hours this afternoon and am convinced that medium format film is > here to stay for quite a while. First, I scanned the slide, using a cheesy > Epson 1200 Photo scanner (says it will do 2400 DPI, but I know it's not > really true). The resulting file was 65 MB. Just rotating the thing to > vertical took 4 minutes on my late-model PC. Cropping took another 3. > Sharpening, another 5. Cloning was easy on an image this size, that's the > only good part. By this time I was too bored to try adjusting the color, so > I saved the image (2 minutes) and tried to print (Canon S800). Getting a > print preview screen, 3 minutes. Adjusting the orientation of the paper, 3 > minutes. On the first send to the printer, the machine froze. Restart, try > again, and voila, I get a highly pixellated print on a $1 piece of paper. > Scale down and re-print (15 minutes) and I get something that's not much > better (from a 4800 x 4800 file). I tried a few other things, and the best > print I got looks pathetic next to even an Ilfochrome reject. Now, I'm sure > there are a lot of things I could learn about this, and I could certainly > spend more money on hardware to get better scans and faster processing. > Still, I'm persuaded that for what I want (medium to large prints, razor > sharpness, wide tonal range, smashing color, zero pixels visible, highly > archival, easily obtainable and repeatable, widely accepted by galleries > and customers should I be lucky enough to have a few, and no teeth-gnashing > or hair-pulling), the digital age has not arrived for me. It's still either > off to a standard darkroom printer, or maybe off to one of the equally > costly digital printers. Anyway, that's how I spent part of a rainy day. > Anyone doing any better with this stuff? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 21:59:03 -0500 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging Message-ID: > Anyway, that's how I spent part of a rainy day. > Anyone doing any better with this stuff? Hi David, Yes, I apparently do MUCH better with this stuff. I have none of the troubles you had today, but I've been doing this for many years, and have some pretty good equipment...but it certainly is do-able. Regards, Austin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:03:41 -0800 From: "Fritz Olenberger" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging Message-ID: <001601c18b5e$6d3103c0$225a1518@santab1.ca.home.com> Dave, An alternative for getting good scans from 120 transparencies is to send them in to a Kodak Pro Photo CD service provider. Check it out ot www.kodak.com. (This is not the "Picture CD" service that is more common). I think the word "Pro" refers to the fact that the 120 format is included. I also think these scans are around $15 - $20 per slide, and they give you several files, at different resolutions. I have not had any personal experience with this service, and would be interested in hearing from those who have. -Fritz ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Meiland" To: Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 5:30 PM Subject: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging > First, I scanned the slide, using a cheesy > Epson 1200 Photo scanner (says it will do 2400 DPI, but I know it's not > really true). > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:05:24 -0500 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: [HUG] Film Spacing Problem Message-ID: Hi David, > How many of us are > just secretly tolerating this bit of poor performance on the part of our > much-vaunted machines, embarrassed to admit that what might be the world's > nicest camera does this regularly? It is most certainly NOT the cameras fault. Ilford took it upon themselves to change their spool sizes. How can that be blamed on Hasselblad? > I mean, c'mon, how do I know > if I have a > Kodak or Ilford take up spool? Very simple. The Ilford spools have large holes in the slit, and others don't. If you don't understand what I mean, and you have looked at a number of different spools, I can take a picture and post it. Also, if you use Ilford film, obviously, the spool the film was on will certainly be of Ilford ilk ;-) > I guess one possible solution in the short > term is to > wind the film a bit short of the starting line. That is precisely what I understand Hasselblad has done, is added a mark before the original mark, on the newest backs... Regards, Austin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:49:05 -0800 From: Malcolm & Sylvia Brickwood To: Hasselblad User Group Subject: [Fwd: Re: [HUG] Lens diffusion for portraits] Message-ID: <3C256241.3080201@worldnet.att.net> Dear Uncle Dick Well I borrowed a pair of my wife's 'Nora Battys' and it kinda worked on an 8x10 monochrome portrait. It was more of an intellectual exercise really as I am not a great fan of anything defused. However, it was a cheap experiment although I must not be too enthusiastic as the lovely model was my wife. I'm more of a landscape fellow myself but thinking of trying my hand at portraits. Pity I threw those Cokin filters away all those years ago :-( Thanks for the input. Malcolm Santa Clara, CA Stein wrote: > Dear Malcolm, > > I used a diffuser - actually the Tiffen filter that I bolt onto the > front of the Hasselblad lenses when I am confronting some serious pock > marks - and kept it in constant motion during the exposure. It did soften > the complexions but at the expense of smearing dark into the highlights > rather than the other way around. Interesting for gothick portraits but > strange otherwise. On balance I have decided to leave diffusion to the > taking process rather than the printing. > > And on that thread - there was a question some time ago about resin > filters. Cokin filters got a caning and everyone said to get different ones. > I have a large number of Cokins that diffuse, smear, fog out, etc and if > this is what you are looking for, they are ideal. > > The No.1 diffusion is very delicate in front of the Planar lenses - just > enough breakdown to ease off the complexion for people of > ...errr...well...oh, damnit - alright - people of my age. I have tried it on > me and it makes me look better. The No.2 makes me look even better than that > and when I combine the two with the bottom of a Captain Morgan rum bottle I > end up looking positively handsome. > > Moral? Don't write off the Cokin company yet. > > Note - some people don't need diffusion. They are actually fuzzy around > their own edges. Just open up a stop or two and light 'em from behind. I > make this joke to all the belly dancers that come in the studio and the > ratio of crying to laughing is now 3:2. > > Uncle Dick > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 21:05:48 -0800 From: Mike Kirwan To: sylvia.brickwood@worldnet.att.net, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: [HUG] Lens diffusion for portraits] Message-ID: Nora Batty, that sounds like the woollen underwear that Compo drools about. I would have thought that woollen undergarments would have been a little too diffuse, maybe you should try lace or some form of silk net next time. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Malcolm & Sylvia Brickwood [mailto:sylvia.brickwood@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 8:49 PM To: Hasselblad User Group Subject: [Fwd: Re: [HUG] Lens diffusion for portraits] Dear Uncle Dick Well I borrowed a pair of my wife's 'Nora Battys' and it kinda worked on an 8x10 monochrome portrait. It was more of an intellectual exercise really as I am not a great fan of anything defused. However, it was a cheap experiment although I must not be too enthusiastic as the lovely model was my wife. I'm more of a landscape fellow myself but thinking of trying my hand at portraits. Pity I threw those Cokin filters away all those years ago :-( Thanks for the input. Malcolm Santa Clara, CA Stein wrote: > Dear Malcolm, > > I used a diffuser - actually the Tiffen filter that I bolt onto the > front of the Hasselblad lenses when I am confronting some serious pock > marks - and kept it in constant motion during the exposure. It did soften > the complexions but at the expense of smearing dark into the highlights > rather than the other way around. Interesting for gothick portraits but > strange otherwise. On balance I have decided to leave diffusion to the > taking process rather than the printing. > > And on that thread - there was a question some time ago about resin > filters. Cokin filters got a caning and everyone said to get different ones. > I have a large number of Cokins that diffuse, smear, fog out, etc and if > this is what you are looking for, they are ideal. > > The No.1 diffusion is very delicate in front of the Planar lenses - just > enough breakdown to ease off the complexion for people of > ...errr...well...oh, damnit - alright - people of my age. I have tried it on > me and it makes me look better. The No.2 makes me look even better than that > and when I combine the two with the bottom of a Captain Morgan rum bottle I > end up looking positively handsome. > > Moral? Don't write off the Cokin company yet. > > Note - some people don't need diffusion. They are actually fuzzy around > their own edges. Just open up a stop or two and light 'em from behind. I > make this joke to all the belly dancers that come in the studio and the > ratio of crying to laughing is now 3:2. > > Uncle Dick > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:28:45 -0800 From: "Daniel K. Lee" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Film Scanner NEwZgrp Message-ID: I'm looking for a good film scanners newsgroup...any recs? ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #1447 ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm