hasselblad Thu, 27 Dec 2001 Volume 1 : Number 1451 In this issue: Re: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging Re: My Thanks to the List Members RE: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging Looking for Batterie RE: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging RE: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging Re: [HUG] Looking for Batterie Re: [HUG] Looking for Batterie RE: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging OLD Manuals in PDF? New Toys Hassey Manuals RE: [HUG] OLD Manuals in PDF? ELM aerial question re film Re: [HUG] Looking for Batterie RE: [HUG] ELM aerial question re film ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 11:03:25 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnter?= Haika To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging Message-ID: <3C29A06D.7070308@gmx.net> Using a Imacon Photo scanner, transparencies are my top choice, but I do scan from negatives with good results, too. (Just seems harder to get the right color.) I've never tried scanning prints, but I guess a large print and a high resulution scanner could give acceptable quality. Günter Richard S. Zimmerman wrote: > Assuming good quality from each source. Which scan from the three sources > below would provide the best results? > > Scanning Sources > > 1 Transparency > > 2 Negative > > 3 Print from the negative > > This is not a riddle. I'd like to know your collective and individual > opinions. > Dick Zimmerman -- Günter Haika Fotograf eMail: foto-haika@gmx.net Web: http://haika.de.vu/ Instant Messenger: ghaika ICQ: 110275424 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 20:12:12 +0700 From: "Peter G. Walker" To: Ken & Shell McC , Subject: Re: My Thanks to the List Members Message-ID: Ken, Do tell more! Why was it a lemon? Regards Peter Telephone: +66-1-374-7034 Email: peter@peterwalker.com URL: http://www.peterwalker.com ---------------------------------- on 21/12/01 4:47 PM, Ken & Shell McC at pixlated@powerup.com.au wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > Dear all, > > I'd just like to say thanks very much to all those list members who = > helped me with lots of information about buying a second-hand 500C/M. It = > was crucial and prevented me from buying a lemon!! A Merry Christmas to = > all, > > Kind Regards, > > Ken McConville. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 09:47:31 -0500 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging Message-ID: > Assuming good quality from each source. Which scan from the three sources > below would provide the best results? > > Scanning Sources > > 1 Transparency > > 2 Negative > > 3 Print from the negative > > This is not a riddle. I'd like to know your collective and individual > opinions. > Dick Zimmerman Dick, It depends...but surely print from negative is the worst. Typically, for sharpness, negative will be your best, if it is exposed and developed with "care", and transparency second (transparencies go through two developers), but this is wholly film dependant...some transparency film will out perform negative film... Tonality is a different issue, and does really depend on film, exposure and development. Transparency FILM does have a larger dynamic range than negative film, simply because it does not have a "base" color that does not contain image information. One issue with that is transparency film has higher requirements on a film scanner to accommodate the wider film dynamic range. The image information on negative film is more compressed...but that does not necessarily mean transparency film has an ability to capture more tones. My suggestion is to try several of the high end films and find ones you like, and give you the results you are looking for. Pay attention to exposure and development, since those can significantly deteriorate the results if not done optimally. Regards, Austin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 15:51:02 From: "Michael Seidel" To: Subject: Looking for Batterie Message-ID: <200112261455.fBQEtHk20057@Mail01.YourWAP.com> Hi, I=B4m looking for a Batterie (akku) for my Hasselblad 500 EL/M Best regards -- NEU - Multi SMS - jetzt anmelden - Begr=FC=DFungsbonus 3 =80 - 33 SMS frei Aus Web und WAP SMS einfach wie E-Mail - an mehrere Empf=E4nger versenden Mehr Infos: http://sms.yourwap.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 06:55:29 -0800 From: "Eric Stral" To: Subject: RE: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging Message-ID: <000201c18e1d$5c937d10$08121c0a@pdx.ekc> The best source from a scan is a negative due to the better tonal quality of a negative. This assumes that the neg has been exposed properly. It is probably the most difficult to scan because, unless you have more experience than I, one cannot easily visualize what is on the neg. It is, therefore, very important that your monitor be properly calibrated and the software you are using be up to the task. Kodak has several films that are optimized for scanning, such as the Supra series. Personally, I scan trannies because they are easier to work with. Hope this helps Eric -----Original Message----- From: Richard S. Zimmerman [mailto:rzimmerman1@nyc.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 6:48 PM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging Assuming good quality from each source. Which scan from the three sources below would provide the best results? Scanning Sources 1 Transparency 2 Negative 3 Print from the negative This is not a riddle. I'd like to know your collective and individual opinions. Dick Zimmerman > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at > http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 10:20:26 -0500 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging Message-ID: Hi Eric, > The best source from a scan is a negative due to the better tonal > quality of a negative. This assumes that the neg has been exposed > properly. It is probably the most difficult to scan because, unless you > have more experience than I, one cannot easily visualize what is on the > neg. Why is that? Doesn't your software remove the mask and reverse the image? Whether I scan transparency or negative, the image looks the same on my monitor... Regards, Austin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 08:07:09 -0900 From: Mark Kronquist To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Looking for Batterie Message-ID: on 12/26/01 3:51 PM, Michael Seidel at intrare@YourWAP.com wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I=B4m looking for a Batterie (akku) for my Hasselblad 500 EL/M >=20 > Best regards > -- > NEU - Multi SMS - jetzt anmelden - Begr=FC=DFungsbonus 3 =80 - 33 SMS frei > Aus Web und WAP SMS einfach wie E-Mail - an mehrere Empf=E4nger versenden > Mehr Infos: http://sms.yourwap.com >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Inter= net, > Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in = no > way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliate= s. >=20 > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use t= ext > mode only. >=20 > To change your subscription status, go to: > http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm call citizens Photo 503 232 8501=20 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 10:44:47 +0000 From: "David S. Argabright" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] Looking for Batterie Message-ID: I bought one of the 9v adapters from eBay. Works fine (actally *faster* tha= n my Varta...). You'll pay +/- 24U$ David > From: Michael Seidel > Reply-To: hasselblad@kelvin.net > Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 15:51:02 +0000 > To: hasselblad@kelvin.net > Subject: [HUG] Looking for Batterie >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I=B4m looking for a Batterie (akku) for my Hasselblad 500 EL/M >=20 > Best regards > -- > NEU - Multi SMS - jetzt anmelden - Begr=FC=DFungsbonus 3 =80 - 33 SMS frei > Aus Web und WAP SMS einfach wie E-Mail - an mehrere Empf=E4nger versenden > Mehr Infos: http://sms.yourwap.com >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Inter= net, > Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in = no > way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliate= s. >=20 > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use t= ext > mode only. >=20 > To change your subscription status, go to: > http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 09:55:17 -0800 From: "Eric Stral" To: Subject: RE: [HUG] Striking out with digital imaging Message-ID: <000801c18e36$7a7fd260$08121c0a@pdx.ekc> Austin, Good software will do the job well; I just don't like scanning negs to see what they look like. I cannot look at a neg to get a good idea of the final result. Eric > The best source from a scan is a negative due to the better tonal > quality of a negative. This assumes that the neg has been exposed > properly. It is probably the most difficult to scan because, unless > you have more experience than I, one cannot easily visualize what is > on the neg. Why is that? Doesn't your software remove the mask and reverse the image? Whether I scan transparency or negative, the image looks the same on my monitor... Regards, Austin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 18:11:22 -0800 From: "RStephen Winter" To: "Hasselblad" Subject: OLD Manuals in PDF? Message-ID: Hi All... I recently became a Hasselblad owner with the purchase of a used 500 CM & 80/2.8CF. Unfortunatley nothing came with any manuals, so I'm hoping to find them somewhere on the net... I checked the Hasselblad "official" we sites, but no go... Any suggestions? Thanks... RStephen Winter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 18:33:21 -0800 From: "Daniel K. Lee" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: New Toys Message-ID: Off the beaten path a bit but has anyone seen the new canon eos-1d? Aiyyy caramba...it's enough to drool over... Since it's digital, I wonder whether the images are comparable to the Med format ones... Hmmmmm B&H has that damn canon body only for frigging 5500.00...yikes ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 19:11:04 -0900 From: Mark Kronquist To: Subject: Hassey Manuals Message-ID: I have several spare if someone needs one Mark mak@teleport.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 19:51:03 -0800 From: "Frank Filippone" To: , Subject: RE: [HUG] OLD Manuals in PDF? Message-ID: Hasselblad, New Jersey, will happily sell you the manuals, as new literature at $5 each, including shipping. Even Ebay prices do not match that! Call, ask for Parts, and tell them what you want. They take credit cards over the phone. Frank Filippone red735i@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 22:14:19 -0800 From: "Gary Todoroff" To: Subject: ELM aerial question re film Message-ID: <00bc01c18e9d$b904e540$672d0dce@g4s5g1> Mostly lurking lately, but here's a question. In one of the more unusual requests of my three years in aerial photography, a client wants a night time photo of the coastline of Humboldt Bay at the lowest tide of the year, New Year's eve, about 7pm, after dark. He will place targets on the ground which I will photograph in daylight for reference. Then after dark, a ground team will pound stakes at the low water line with attached flashlights pointing up. Lights will also outline the reference targets. The night photo will be taken at the same altitude as the daylight photo, so the targets can be lined up in the two photos. (I could have just said I was taking pictures of flashlights from 2000 feet, but the project is wierd enough that I've included this long description.) Anyway the ELM will be in a tried and proven vertical mount in a Cessna 182, but I'm not sure what film or exposure to use. Some Delta 3200 and infrared film is on the way from B&H. I will probably use the outstanding 100/3.5 lens. The 80 with an extra 2/3 stop would be nice but that lens is hopeless wide open. Would appreciate any ideas. Regards, Gary Todoroff Eureka, CA www.northcoastphotos.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 22:18:47 -0800 From: "Gary Todoroff" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Looking for Batterie Message-ID: <00c601c18e9e$58d956a0$672d0dce@g4s5g1> Did the same a few months ago, David. Neat package, huh? My spare ELM sounds like a meat grinder and really strains the Varta (repair cost for gears, etc is about same as a used ELM). With the 9v battery it is a lot faster, just as you report. > I bought one of the 9v adapters from eBay. Works fine (actally *faster* than > my Varta...). You'll pay +/- 24U$ > > David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 22:25:38 -0800 From: "Frank Filippone" To: Subject: RE: [HUG] ELM aerial question re film Message-ID: It ain't motor driven, if that is an issue.... but the 110 would be nice at F2 with a 200 family body..........speed counts! Frank Filippone red735i@earthlink.net ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #1451 ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. 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