hasselblad Fri, 28 Dec 2001 Volume 1 : Number 1452 In this issue: Re: [HUG] New Toys RE: [HUG] OLD Manuals in PDF? RE: [HUG] Hassey Manuals Re: Re: [HUG] Looking for Batterie Re: hasselblad V1 #1451 Re: Re: [HUG] Looking for Batterie Re: hasselblad V1 #1451 Re: [HUG] Hassey Manuals Re: [HUG] Re: hasselblad V1 #1451 [Fwd: [HUG] Re: hasselblad V1 #1451] Re: [HUG] ELM aerial question re film Black and White Infrared Photography with a Blad Re: [HUG] OLD Manuals in PDF? Re: [HUG] Black and White Infrared Photography with a Blad Value of EL ELM Cameras WHY SO LOW? FS Polaroid back FS Friday Re: [HUG] Black and White Infrared Photography with a Blad Re: [HUG] Black and White Infrared Photography with a Blad FS Hassy Items FS Friday - Hassy Items ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 07:28:49 -0500 From: Bernard Cousineau To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] New Toys Message-ID: <3C2B1401.92C673E2@sympatico.ca> > Off the beaten path a bit but has anyone seen the new canon eos-1d? Aiyyy > caramba...it's enough to drool over... > > Since it's digital, I wonder whether the images are comparable to the Med > format ones... Daniel, You can see some full-size images from this camera at http://www.photo.net/photo/digital/canon-eos1d In my opinion, the images are comparable to medium format only in the loosest sense. It is a camera for those who value (and get paid for) speed over ultimate quality, i.e.: the working press. Bernard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 08:34:10 -0500 From: "Bob Boggio" To: , Subject: RE: [HUG] OLD Manuals in PDF? Message-ID: When I bought my 500 C/M and 80/2.8 I contacted Hasselblad customer service through their web site. They sent me manuals for the camera and lens for $5.00. There is a guy on eBay selling them for $15.00 Bob -----Original Message----- From: RStephen Winter [mailto:rswinter@rswphoto.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:11 PM To: Hasselblad Subject: [HUG] OLD Manuals in PDF? Hi All... I recently became a Hasselblad owner with the purchase of a used 500 CM & 80/2.8CF. Unfortunatley nothing came with any manuals, so I'm hoping to find them somewhere on the net... I checked the Hasselblad "official" we sites, but no go... Any suggestions? Thanks... RStephen Winter ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:47:09 -0500 From: "Michael Yuen" To: Subject: RE: [HUG] Hassey Manuals Message-ID: Do you have the 500CM manual? Mike -----Original Message----- From: Mark Kronquist [mailto:mak@teleport.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 11:11 PM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: [HUG] Hassey Manuals I have several spare if someone needs one Mark mak@teleport.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 15:51:45 From: "Michael Seidel" To: Subject: Re: Re: [HUG] Looking for Batterie Message-ID: <200112271456.fBREu4k27982@Mail01.YourWAP.com> Hi, thanks. But I live in Germany and I had never seen such a Adapter here. I bought one of the 9v adapters from eBay. Works fine (actally *faster* tha= n my Varta...). You'll pay +/- 24U$ David -- NEU - Multi SMS - jetzt anmelden - Begr=FC=DFungsbonus 3 =80 - 33 SMS frei Aus Web und WAP SMS einfach wie E-Mail - an mehrere Empf=E4nger versenden Mehr Infos: http://sms.yourwap.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:41:41 EST From: DaveHodge@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: hasselblad V1 #1451 Message-ID: In a message dated 12/27/01 3:43:32 AM, hasselblad@kelvin.net writes: << Hi All... I recently became a Hasselblad owner with the purchase of a used 500 CM & 80/2.8CF. Unfortunatley nothing came with any manuals, so I'm hoping to find them somewhere on the net... I checked the Hasselblad "official" we sites, but no go... Any suggestions? Thanks... RStephen Winter >> I borrowed a 500C from a friend to try out before I took the plunge and got a complete, mostly used, 500CM system. But he did not have an instruction manual either. I thought most of the features were self-explanatory. But I purchased Ernst Wildi's "The Hasselblad Manual" for about $45 which told me everything I needed to know and some I didn't need! You can also probably find a used one or an earlier edition on eBay for less money. Email me with a specific problem you are having and I will be glad to share my limited expertise. Best regards, David Hodge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 07:57:30 -0800 From: "Gary Todoroff" To: Subject: Re: Re: [HUG] Looking for Batterie Message-ID: <004101c18eef$312f5cc0$8e2d0dce@g4s5g1> Go to eBay at www.ebay.com, Michael, and in the search box, enter the words, hasselblad battery. Or go to one of the battery listings directly at http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1314524035 . Signing up for ebay is easy, and you will probably get a winning bid on the battery at $24 (there are currently 12 auctions for the battery adapter). Alternatively, you can go to http://home.san.rr.com/n/nine-volt/ and buy it directly for $49, plus see a description of the product. Hope this helps . . . Gary Michael wrote: But I live in Germany and I had never seen such a Adapter here. > I bought one of the 9v adapters from eBay. Works fine (actally *faster* than > my Varta...). You'll pay +/- 24U$ > > David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:55:25 EST From: DaveHodge@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: hasselblad V1 #1451 Message-ID: In a message dated 12/27/01 3:43:32 AM, hasselblad@kelvin.net writes: << Mostly lurking lately, but here's a question. In one of the more unusual requests of my three years in aerial photography, a client wants a night time photo of the coastline of Humboldt Bay at the lowest tide of the year, New Year's eve, about 7pm, after dark. He will place targets on the ground which I will photograph in daylight for reference. Then after dark, a ground team will pound stakes at the low water line with attached flashlights pointing up. Lights will also outline the reference targets. The night photo will be taken at the same altitude as the daylight photo, so the targets can be lined up in the two photos. (I could have just said I was taking pictures of flashlights from 2000 feet, but the project is wierd enough that I've included this long description.) Anyway the ELM will be in a tried and proven vertical mount in a Cessna 182, but I'm not sure what film or exposure to use. Some Delta 3200 and infrared film is on the way from B&H. I will probably use the outstanding 100/3.5 lens. The 80 with an extra 2/3 stop would be nice but that lens is hopeless wide open. Would appreciate any ideas. Regards, Gary Todoroff Eureka, CA www.northcoastphotos.com >> According to Modern Photography's "The Jiffy Calculator for Night-Light Exposures," published in 1964, scene #13 is for outdoor Christmas trees, home and building decorations, which seems to correspond approximately to flash-lights pointed up. For 3200 speed film, the calculator recommends1/125 sec @ f.2.8, 1/60 @ f/4, 1/30 @ f/5.6, etc. But the aircraft is moving, right? It's not a helicopter? I'm not sure you can do it unless you can push the film a couple of stops and use a faster shutter speed. I am guessing. I have done some aerial photography, but never at night. Maybe someone else will have a better suggestion. Best regards anyway. David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:09:01 -0800 From: Mark Kronquist To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Hassey Manuals Message-ID: On 12/27/01 6:47 AM, "Michael Yuen" wrote: > Do you have the 500CM manual? > > Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Kronquist [mailto:mak@teleport.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 11:11 PM > To: hasselblad@kelvin.net > Subject: [HUG] Hassey Manuals > > > I have several spare if someone needs one Mark mak@teleport.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute > Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list > is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or > affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text > mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: > http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, > Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no > way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text > mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: > http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Yes a couple of them ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:13:47 -0800 From: Mark Kronquist To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Re: hasselblad V1 #1451 Message-ID: On 12/27/01 7:41 AM, "DaveHodge@aol.com" wrote: > > In a message dated 12/27/01 3:43:32 AM, hasselblad@kelvin.net writes: > > << Hi All... I recently became a Hasselblad owner with the purchase of a used > 500 CM & 80/2.8CF. > > Unfortunatley nothing came with any manuals, so I'm hoping to find them > somewhere on the net... I checked the Hasselblad "official" we sites, but > no go... Any suggestions? > > Thanks... > > RStephen Winter > >>> > > I borrowed a 500C from a friend to try out before I took the plunge and got a > complete, mostly used, 500CM system. But he did not have an instruction > manual either. I thought most of the features were self-explanatory. But I > purchased Ernst Wildi's "The Hasselblad Manual" for about $45 which told me > everything I needed to know and some I didn't need! You can also probably > find a used one or an earlier edition on eBay for less money. > > Email me with a specific problem you are having and I will be glad to share > my limited expertise. > > Best regards, David Hodge > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, > Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no > way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text > mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: > http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm New Hasselblad dealer in Portland Oregon Blue Moon Cameras 503 478 0333 has several Wildi Books and a good selection of gear including SWC and lots more Jake is the owner and a great guy. Good to see a new camera store opening in this climate Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:26:38 -0800 From: Malcolm & Sylvia Brickwood To: Hasselblad User Group Subject: [Fwd: [HUG] Re: hasselblad V1 #1451] Message-ID: <3C2B59CE.5030609@worldnet.att.net> All Looking a the e-mail trail I am confused as to whether this is solved or not. In any any you can always try http://www.oldtimercameras.com/ I have bought a number of manuals from them in the past and found their service to be excellent. I would be very surprised if they were unable to help. Malcolm -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [HUG] Re: hasselblad V1 #1451 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:41:41 EST From: DaveHodge@aol.com Reply-To: hasselblad@kelvin.net To: hasselblad@kelvin.net In a message dated 12/27/01 3:43:32 AM, hasselblad@kelvin.net writes: << Hi All... I recently became a Hasselblad owner with the purchase of a used 500 CM & 80/2.8CF. Unfortunatley nothing came with any manuals, so I'm hoping to find them somewhere on the net... I checked the Hasselblad "official" we sites, but no go... Any suggestions? Thanks... RStephen Winter >> I borrowed a 500C from a friend to try out before I took the plunge and got a complete, mostly used, 500CM system. But he did not have an instruction manual either. I thought most of the features were self-explanatory. But I purchased Ernst Wildi's "The Hasselblad Manual" for about $45 which told me everything I needed to know and some I didn't need! You can also probably find a used one or an earlier edition on eBay for less money. Email me with a specific problem you are having and I will be glad to share my limited expertise. Best regards, David Hodge ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:18:18 -0800 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net, Subject: Re: [HUG] ELM aerial question re film Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20011227101123.038d8e90@pop.alink.net> Hi Gary, I personally would probably experiment with Provia 400F pushed two, maybe three, stops. Or 800 color print film pushed two stops. I personally cannot stand Delta 3200 as it is more like an 800 film pushed to the limit to reach 3200. I would rather use Tri-X or Neopan 400 pushed to 1600. Accufine easily pushes Neopan 400 to 1600. Anyway, experimentation ahead of time is the key, as you know very well... :) Jim At 10:14 PM 12/26/2001 -0800, Gary Todoroff wrote: >Mostly lurking lately, but here's a question. In one of the more unusual >requests of my three years in aerial photography, a client wants a night >time photo of the coastline of Humboldt Bay at the lowest tide of the year, >New Year's eve, about 7pm, after dark. He will place targets on the ground >which I will photograph in daylight for reference. Then after dark, a ground >team will pound stakes at the low water line with attached flashlights >pointing up. Lights will also outline the reference targets. The night photo >will be taken at the same altitude as the daylight photo, so the targets can >be lined up in the two photos. (I could have just said I was taking pictures >of flashlights from 2000 feet, but the project is wierd enough that I've >included this long description.) > >Anyway the ELM will be in a tried and proven vertical mount in a Cessna 182, >but I'm not sure what film or exposure to use. Some Delta 3200 and infrared >film is on the way from B&H. I will probably use the outstanding 100/3.5 >lens. The 80 with an extra 2/3 stop would be nice but that lens is hopeless >wide open. > >Would appreciate any ideas. > >Regards, >Gary Todoroff >Eureka, CA >www.northcoastphotos.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:42:34 -0500 From: "Marc Gravel" To: Subject: Black and White Infrared Photography with a Blad Message-ID: <001201c18f0e$a1b21040$a574cb18@videotron.ca> Hi everyone, I am particularly interested in black and white infrared photography. All of my photography is done using Kodak High Speed Infrared film. This is a fantastic film with only one major drawback. It is not available in 120 format. Only 35mm. In the 120 format there is the Ilford SFX.....which sorry to say, I don't like. Not enough magic for me there. Are there any other alternatives? I have heard that black and white infrared is available in 70mm and with a 70mm back it is possible to use in on a Blad. I would be interested to hear if anyone has experience in doing this and what would be your recommendations........ Thank-you.........and Merry X-mas and a Happy New Year to Everyone. Marc Gravel Montreal, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:01:54 +0100 From: "Q.G. de Bakker" To: , Subject: Re: [HUG] OLD Manuals in PDF? Message-ID: <001c01c18f11$56440980$27eaf1c3@qnu350> RStephen Winter wrote: > Hi All... I recently became a Hasselblad owner with the purchase of a used > 500 CM & 80/2.8CF. > > Unfortunatley nothing came with any manuals, so I'm hoping to find them > somewhere on the net... I checked the Hasselblad "official" we sites, but > no go... Any suggestions? I have asked Hasselblad AB about putting PDF versions of their manuals (and a FAQ) on the Hasselblad website way back in october 2000. Then they said they would do so "hopefully fairly soon." Perhaps it will help if some of us ask them again? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 12:13:52 -0800 From: Mark Kronquist To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Black and White Infrared Photography with a Blad Message-ID: On 12/27/01 11:42 AM, "Marc Gravel" wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am particularly interested in black and white infrared photography. All > of my photography is done using Kodak High Speed Infrared film. This is a > fantastic film with only one major drawback. It is not available in 120 > format. Only 35mm. > > In the 120 format there is the Ilford SFX.....which sorry to say, I don't > like. Not enough magic for me there. > > Are there any other alternatives? I have heard that black and white > infrared is available in 70mm and with a 70mm back it is possible to use in > on a Blad. I would be interested to hear if anyone has experience in doing > this and what would be your recommendations........ > > Thank-you.........and Merry X-mas and a Happy New Year to Everyone. > > Marc Gravel > Montreal, Canada > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, > Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no > way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text > mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: > http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Konica yes Konica makes an IR 120 film hard to find but Glazers in Seattle had some 206 624 1100 also try Citizens in Portland 503 232 8501 Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 12:42:14 -0800 From: Mark Kronquist To: Subject: Value of EL ELM Cameras WHY SO LOW? Message-ID: Here's a question for the world. Why have Hasselblad EL EL/M cameras crashed through the floor value wise while 500c cameras are holding their value much better? The switch to digital shouldn't matter much because EL series cameras use digital backs as well... Batteries should not be an issue because of the 9V and NiMH alternatives... BTW If anyone wants one I have an EX/EX+ EL/M w WI NiMH and Charger TTE10594 FS $275 plus postage Thanks Mark mak@teleport.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 15:42:22 -0500 From: Stephen Sherman To: Subject: FS Polaroid back Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3092312542_3926135 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I have a Polaroid 100 back in exc shape except it need the glass plate. Asking$125 Also have a bunch of Polaroid 689Provivd I=B9d like to sell dated 12/01 Asking $9 a pack. 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I’m in Boston-Eastern Standard time --B_3092312542_3926135-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 16:21:02 -0800 From: "Oliver Bryk" To: "Hasselblad Users Group" , "Leica-Users" Subject: FS Friday Message-ID: <000b01c18f35$88582040$6401a8c0@attbi.com> Hasselblad accessories for sale or trade involving Leica M6HM body: 4.5cm x 6cm Format Mask Set $ 30 Hassy Bay 60 Filter, Yellow 4 $ 30 Tiffen 67mm Filters with Bay 60 adapter, Blue 47, Red 23A, Haze 2A, Soft 2B, the set, including filter wallet $ 70 Bay 60 Proxar 0.5m close-up lens $ 115 Bay 60 Proxar 1.0m close-up lens $ 115 Tiffen Filter Wallet (holds 6) $ 10 A12 Magazines, chrome, part # 30074, each with matching insert, dark slide, and original box, in mint condition Serial # RE33368xx $ 450 Serial # RR33221xx $ 450 Serial # RR33222xx $ 450 Lindahl Bell-O-Shade compendium including 4 gel filters $ 95 Kaiser copy stand, baseboard approx. 18”x24”, 50” calibrated column with balanced arm, no lights $ 145 Interested parties please contact me off list at oliverbryk@attbi.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 15:42:06 -0900 From: Tom Kline To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] Black and White Infrared Photography with a Blad Message-ID: I have heard that black and white >infrared is available in 70mm and with a 70mm back it is possible to use in >on a Blad. I would be interested to hear if anyone has experience in doing >this and what would be your recommendations........ > >Thank-you.........and Merry X-mas and a Happy New Year to Everyone. > >Marc Gravel >Montreal, Canada Marc: What you are thinking of is called Kodak Aerographic 2424. It comes in 70mm by 150 foot rolls with type II perfs and so is fully compatible with Hasselbald 70mm backs. I have used some of this myself - works well but the price has in the last few years increased dramatically. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 19:54:58 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Taylor To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] Black and White Infrared Photography with a Blad Message-ID: <20011228035458.89060.qmail@web11807.mail.yahoo.com> Kodak 2424 in bulk and 70mm Hasselblad film magazine. works wonderfully well, and yields all the magic of HIE in 35mm. it is the same emulsion, so you must use the same precautions. I buy it direct through Kodak though you can order it through B&H special order. Konica 750 and the new Maco offering gets you close, but IR nirvana comes from Kodak. have a blast and don't hesitate to contact me directly should you decide to take the plunge and have additional questions. Daniel Taylor Lightsmythe Studios Oregon, USA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 02:28:06 EST From: BLADHASS@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: FS Hassy Items Message-ID: <179.171e8a5.295d7906@aol.com> I need a good home for the following gear A32 back black, old style, with Lindahl dark slide holder Exc ++++ $500 A32 back black, old style, with Lindahl holder, Exc + $400 A16 chrome, old style with Lindahl holder, Exc ++ $275 A16s chrome, Exc +++ $135 Hasselblad Flash Bracket, fits 503 CXi & CW, Boxed $200 Metz 45 CT3 with Hassy TTL adaptor, plus adaptor to fit Flash on Hassy Bracket, Exc ++ $275 Quantum Turbo Z with charger & manual, Exc +++ $175 Peter Peterson Seattle, WA bladhass@aol.com 425-277-7812 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 23:51:43 -0800 From: "Dr. Rob" To: Subject: FS Friday - Hassy Items Message-ID: <006901c18f74$9ea86960$3ad77e18@we.mediaone.net> Click here to see of my latest impulse purchases for sale or trade: http://www.rob168.com/camera/ If you see something you want, call me to make an offer. I love to talk, but hate to email. Dr. Rob 800 714-9353 ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #1452 ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm