hasselblad Tue, 1 Jan 2002 Volume 1 : Number 1456 In this issue: Re: [HUG] another "spacing" issue - ie. cheap thrills Re: [HUG] older lens Re: [HUG] Dancing With Tears in My Eyes Re: [HUG] spacing and other problems Re: [HUG] older lens RE: [HUG] spacing and other problems Re: [HUG] spacing and other problems RE: [HUG] spacing and other problems RE: [HUG] older lens Re: [HUG] spacing and other problems OT 127 film processing Re: [HUG] OT 127 film processing RE: [HUG] spacing and other problems Re: [HUG] OT 127 film processing Re: [HUG] spacing and other problems Portrait technique question Re: [HUG] Portrait technique question Re: [HUG] Portrait technique question Re: [HUG] Portrait technique question ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:08:20 +0800 From: "Stein" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] another "spacing" issue - ie. cheap thrills Message-ID: <001001c191da$b1e41f20$d8b237cb@oemcomputer> Dear Peter, I did go to a website that speciallized in honeymoon activities and it was quite interesting. They had a large picture file of people sitting around in airport transit lounges, sitting around in hotel lobbies, waiting for the rain to stop ( I think it was an English site.) and people staring out the window pointedly ignoring one another. There was a section devoted to bickering and another one that dealt with how to write a thank-you note for a wedding gift of plastic flowers in a china vase with a sticky base intended to brighten up the toilet. In short - a trip down memory lane. Now if they had a page on gastroentological disorders it would have been perfect. Uncle Dick PS: Well, it couldn't have been that bad. She still speaks to me after 29 years. And some of the words are printable. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 05:43:46 -0700 From: Peter Rosenthal To: Subject: Re: [HUG] older lens Message-ID: > I'm thinking of buy a lens off eBay. They have some of the older "C" series > lenses. I have a 500C/M body. How are the older units? > Are they OK or prone to problems? I shoot just for fun. > DJ Dale- The older lenses, for the most part, are terrific pieces of equipment. It's eBay that I have a problem with. I see a LOT of equipment that was purchased on eBay. Mostly misrepresentations about functionality. Having said that, it's generally nothing that couldn't be fixed, it's just that it needed fixing. Ask about scratches on glass or coatings, especially on rear elements. Ask about the very slow speeds. They should be accurate or at least sound smooth and accurate. The focus shouldn't need a pipe-wrench to turn. If it's really beat up on the outside, it's probably got a lot of miles on it. Fairly tough miles at that. Ask if the stop-down preview works perfectly. If you get the answers you want, you may be OK. I, for one, would prefer to buy a lens from a reputable dealer that guarantees their stuff. Many reputable dealers sell on eBay. I'd also be more prone to buy from someone with a flawless track record as opposed to someone who is selling for the first time. I suspect there are many on this list that will relay their eBay experiences you can use as reference. Peter -- Peter Rosenthal PR Camera Repair 111 E. Aspen #1 Flagstaff, AZ 86001 928 779-5263 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 08:37:16 -0500 From: "Dr. Elliot Puritz" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Dancing With Tears in My Eyes Message-ID: <004701c19200$42ed7c80$bec49d42@f6bq001> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C191D6.59ECBB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You reached a retired Dermatologist. Don't use Bag Balm about the eyes please! Sounds as though you have a = contact dermatitis, but I need just a bit more information. Any = blisters? Pain? Why don't you contact me off of the list and I will = see if I can help until you can get to your own physician. Elliot drpuritz@bellsouth.net ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Brick=20 To: Stein ; hasselblad@kelvin.net=20 Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [HUG] Dancing With Tears in My Eyes Use "Bag Balm." An udderly wonderful cure all. Jim At 11:02 AM 12/31/2001 +0800, Stein wrote: Dear Friends, =20 Quite apart from the fact that the girl in my arms isn't you ( = And for those of you, like me, who can remember the music and lyrics - = go to bed early tonight as you are far too old to be out on the town.) = the real reason is because I have a dandy dermatitis going around my = left eye. =20 I managed to wipe it absentmindedly while processing some RA 4 = work a few days ago and I suspect that something got in there. Red, = itchy, flaking skin. Haven't looked this good for years. =20 Any dermatologists or chemists out there on the list with some = practical suggestions for the healing up? I intend to use rubber gloves = in the future and keep my fingers out of my eyes. =20 Uncle Dick ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C191D6.59ECBB00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You reached a retired = Dermatologist.
 
Don't use Bag Balm about the eyes = please! =20 Sounds as though you have a contact dermatitis, but I need just a bit = more=20 information.  Any blisters?  Pain?  Why don't you contact = me off=20 of the list and I will see if I can help until you can get to your own=20 physician.
 
Elliot
 
drpuritz@bellsouth.net<= /DIV>
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim Brick =
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 = 10:13=20 PM
Subject: Re: [HUG] Dancing With = Tears in=20 My Eyes

Use  "Bag Balm."

An udderly wonderful cure=20 all.

Jim


At 11:02 AM 12/31/2001 +0800, Stein = wrote:
Dear=20 Friends,
 
     Quite apart from the fact that the = girl in=20 my arms isn't you ( And for those of you, like me, who can remember = the=20 music and lyrics - go to bed early tonight as you are far too old to = be out=20 on the town.) the real reason is because I have a dandy dermatitis = going=20 around my left eye.
    
    I managed to wipe it absentmindedly = while=20 processing some RA 4 work a few days ago and I suspect that = something got in=20 there. Red, itchy, flaking skin. Haven't looked this good for=20 years.
 
    =20 Any dermatologists or chemists out there on the list with some = practical=20 suggestions for the healing up? I intend to use rubber gloves in the = future=20 and keep my fingers out of my eyes.
 
    Uncle=20 Dick
------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C191D6.59ECBB00-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:34:33 -0000 From: "Steve" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] spacing and other problems Message-ID: <000401c1920a$438c9720$222f073e@steve> I have been reading with some concern about the apparent spacing problems on Hasselblad backs. I have read the explanations and reasons for this ( Film spools etc.) but can anyone answer this? I understood that Hasselblad were the last word in 'real' camera technology, that they made the best. I have been using Mamiya 330's for many years for mainly wedding and portrait work. In this time I have used probably thousands of rolls of film of almost all makes and I have NEVER had a spacing problem on any of my bodies, some of which are very old, some much later. I also know of no one else that has had this problem on the Mamiya. Why then, if Mamiya can do it , can't Hasselblad? I confess to becoming a little disillusioned with the Hasselblad product before I have even used it! The one thing that I really need is reliability. I have heard so many stories of poor film spacing, slow and sticky shutters, bodies failing because the lubricant used is 'too sticky', camera/lens jamming, light leaks etc. Is this just small and rare problems making headlines or are there serious questions regarding the usability and reliability of Hasselblad gear. This is a serious matter for me. As I said earlier, I have been using TLRs for years and I am now anxious to get a proper SLR kit, but I am reluctant to invest loads of cash into something that I cannot be confident with. Your comments / reassurances will be most welcome. Thanks Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 08:47:50 -0600 From: "Thomas Hahn" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] older lens Message-ID: I would second Peter's cautionary remarks re buying a lens on eBay. It is a gamble. In many cases, people don't quite know what they are selling. In other cases, they don't know how to properly describe it. Someone once said (here on this list?): "As a rule of thumb, if the ebay listing comes within the $100-200 range of a dealer's item, buy from the dealer." With a dealer, you know whom you are dealing with, and may get a MBG as well. Speaking from experience Thomas _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 07:15:44 -0800 From: To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Message-ID: -------Phoenix-Boundary-07081998- Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:45:58 -0800 From: "Dale Jehning" To: Subject: RE: [HUG] older lens Message-ID: I'm thinking of buy a lens off eBay. They have some of the older "C" series lenses. I have a 500C/M body. How are the older units=3F Are they OK or prone to problems=3F I shoot just for fun. DJ DJ - Regarding a "C" lens, in my opinion, they are an excellent bargain especially for someone with an older body who can not benefit from the latest electronics. Having said that, I would remind you that IMHO 'caveat emptor' should be a full screen banner at the top of eBay. As I'm sure you know a few low res images can hide a lot. I would suggest a camera show (if you're near one) where you can at least handle and try the lens on your camera body. Remember you're buying a delicate optical/mechanical device which has been bouncing around for 10 - 30 years. Older "C" lenses were not multi-coated but rather single coated. They are more prone to flare than multi-coated but we're splitting hairs. (Uncoated - 95%, single coated - 99% and multi-coated - 99.5%). Resolution and color saturation are really good unless you let the sun get too near the field of view so be sure to use the correct lens shade! Of course, these are just my personal opinions and experience. Good luck in your search. Richard -------Phoenix-Boundary-07081998--- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:45:42 -0500 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: [HUG] spacing and other problems Message-ID: Steve, > I have read the explanations and reasons for this ( Film spools etc.) but > can anyone answer this? > > I understood that Hasselblad were the last word in 'real' camera > technology, > that they made the best. > > I have been using Mamiya 330's for many years for mainly wedding and > portrait work. In this time I have used probably thousands of > rolls of film > of almost all makes and I have NEVER had a spacing problem on any of my > bodies, some of which are very old, some much later. I also know of no one > else that has had this problem on the Mamiya. Why then, if Mamiya > can do it > , can't Hasselblad? The Ilford change in spool size is recent (past few years). EVERY camera is subject to this...EVERY. The depending factor is where the film starts, that's it. It is not a matter of "why can't Hasselblad". This issue is VERY VERY VERY simply solved by stopping your initial winding a cm or two before the little mark, when using an Ilford take-up spool. I believe new magazines come marked with an additional starting mark. > I have heard so many stories of poor film spacing, slow and > sticky shutters, > bodies failing because the lubricant used is 'too sticky', camera/lens > jamming, light leaks etc. I've been using Hasselblads for 25 years, and I haven't heard many spacing problems, and I've never heard any sticky shutters or light leaks. I have heard a small group of jams, that are apparently ONLY on older bodies/lenses, and solved with a CLA of the lense. All this stuff is just such "non issues". Yes, some problems exist...but no more than in ANY other make of camera, and being that there are so many Hasselblads out there, and they take such heavy use, I'd say the issues with Hasselblads are even less. Austin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 19:20:04 +0100 From: "Q.G. de Bakker" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] spacing and other problems Message-ID: <000801c19227$c629e9e0$b3c3f1c3@qnu350> Steve wrote: > I have been reading with some concern about the apparent spacing problems on > Hasselblad backs. > > [...] > > Is this just small and rare problems making headlines or are there serious > questions regarding the usability and reliability of Hasselblad gear. > > This is a serious matter for me. As I said earlier, I have been using TLRs > for years and I am now anxious to get a proper SLR kit, but I am reluctant > to invest loads of cash into something that I cannot be confident with. > > Your comments / reassurances will be most welcome. There are indeed frame spacing problems. The main cause of these is not a design problem, but people being sloppy when loading film. And the other cause, also the cause for the other problems you mention, is that very many very old cameras are being sold and bought. After perhaps 30+ years of hard work, problems will arise due to old age and lack of service (and even lack of use, like lubricants getting sticky), that are very easy to put right. So it is indeed a small problem. Not a sign of lacking reliability. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:22:15 -0800 From: Mike Kirwan To: "Q.G. de Bakker" , hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE: [HUG] spacing and other problems Message-ID: I had a very interesting chat with my Local Pro repair guy. He told me that I was not using my gear often enough, told me I needed to exercise the body and lens of my 500 C/M also he was most emphatical about backs being serviced every 2-3 years regardless of how many films pass through them. The amount he charges for a Back CLA is not going to make him a millionaire. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Q.G. de Bakker [mailto:qnu@worldonline.nl] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:20 AM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] spacing and other problems Steve wrote: > I have been reading with some concern about the apparent spacing problems on > Hasselblad backs. > > [...] > > Is this just small and rare problems making headlines or are there serious > questions regarding the usability and reliability of Hasselblad gear. > > This is a serious matter for me. As I said earlier, I have been using TLRs > for years and I am now anxious to get a proper SLR kit, but I am reluctant > to invest loads of cash into something that I cannot be confident with. > > Your comments / reassurances will be most welcome. There are indeed frame spacing problems. The main cause of these is not a design problem, but people being sloppy when loading film. And the other cause, also the cause for the other problems you mention, is that very many very old cameras are being sold and bought. After perhaps 30+ years of hard work, problems will arise due to old age and lack of service (and even lack of use, like lubricants getting sticky), that are very easy to put right. So it is indeed a small problem. Not a sign of lacking reliability. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 15:02:26 -0500 From: Bernard Ferster To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE: [HUG] older lens Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011231150132.00a15ad0@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net> My 80mm and 129 are ancient - and simply superb! ..........................B.F...................... At 09:45 PM 12/30/2001 -0800, you wrote: >How are the older units? >Are they OK or prone to problems? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 15:58:26 -0500 From: Jesse Hellman To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] spacing and other problems Message-ID: <3C30D174.9A344CC9@home.com> Does anyone know WHY Ilford changed the size of the spool cores? Or why they did not compensate by making the film a little longer (the answer is probably either that they did not think of it, just as they did not think to notify consumers of the ramifications of the spool change, or that the film would then not work on all those developing reels we have)? Why should Hasselblad put a permanent mark on the magazines because Ilford changed their spools? What if every manufacturer used different size spools? How can a company that invents these great films not think of something like this? I sent out two magazines for servicing, which they did not need. So I'm ranting a bit. Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 16:19:04 EST From: KARM40@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: OT 127 film processing Message-ID: <10.179f7f9f.29623048@aol.com> I was checking out a box of old cameras that I have and found a shot roll of 127 film in it. I know the odds of there being anything on the film are low, but I would like to at least make the attempt. Any ideas as to where I could get this processed would be appreciated. Thanks, Mark Los Angeles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 16:29:32 -0500 From: Marc James Small To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] OT 127 film processing Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20011231162932.006d42ac@roanoke.infi.net> At 04:19 PM 12/31/01 EST, KARM40@aol.com wrote: >I was checking out a box of old cameras that I have and found a shot roll= of=20 >127 film in it. I know the odds of there being anything on the film are low,=20 >but I would like to at least make the attempt. Any ideas as to where I could=20 >get this processed would be appreciated. In your own darkroom, of course. I recommend XTOL as the= developer-of-choice. Marc msmall@roanoke.infi.net FAX: +540/343-7315 Cha robh b=E0s fir gun ghr=E0s fir! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 19:05:44 -0500 From: "Austin Franklin" To: Subject: RE: [HUG] spacing and other problems Message-ID: > Does anyone know WHY Ilford changed the size of the spool cores? I do now know, but I DO know that it is still within the spec for 120 film spools though...as a range is specified...but no one else uses the high end of the range except now Ilford. Austin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 19:33:57 -0600 From: "Jim Wrobleski" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] OT 127 film processing Message-ID: <003c01c19264$61ed2180$4be320d1@dul.chartermi.net> Or try these guys. They handle "antique" films. Not cheap! http://www.rockymountainfilm.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc James Small To: Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [HUG] OT 127 film processing At 04:19 PM 12/31/01 EST, KARM40@aol.com wrote: >I was checking out a box of old cameras that I have and found a shot rol= l of >127 film in it. I know the odds of there being anything on the film are low, >but I would like to at least make the attempt. Any ideas as to where I could >get this processed would be appreciated. In your own darkroom, of course. I recommend XTOL as the developer-of-choice. Marc msmall@roanoke.infi.net FAX: +540/343-7315 Cha robh b=E0s fir gun ghr=E0s fir! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing l= ist is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use t= ext mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:52:33 -0800 From: David Gerhardt To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] spacing and other problems Message-ID: <39371C80-FE5A-11D5-9D18-003065A21B7E@mindspring.com> On Monday, December 31, 2001, at 04:34 AM, Steve wrote: > I have been reading with some concern about the apparent spacing > problems on > Hasselblad backs. > > > This is a serious matter for me. As I said earlier, I have been using > TLRs > for years and I am now anxious to get a proper SLR kit, but I am > reluctant > to invest loads of cash into something that I cannot be confident with. > > Your comments / reassurances will be most welcome. > > Thanks > > Steve > Steve- This falls into the same category as the "dreaded Hasselblad Jamming" syndrome. If either were a serious design fault of the camera, then NONE of us would tolerate the camera very long (and NO professionals who rely on the camera for a living). This is not to say that ANY mechanical (or electrical) camera can't fail; just that it is not symptomatic. With Hasselblad, the number of issues you read about on HUG may have to do with two items: (1) a large number of the cameras are purchased used, and therefore are of questionable pedigree (ie, need a good CLA), and (2) many of the people that write in to this forum just received their camera, and are new to it's "characteristics". So... you can safely invest loads of cash into your Hasselblad system ;-) (and I can duck as the emails come in insisting that it IS in fact a design fault!) ps: I have NO jamming or spacing problems with any of my Hasselblads; mechanical or electric. -David Gerhardt (davidgerhardt@mindspring.com) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:23:49 -0800 From: "Tourtelot" To: Subject: Portrait technique question Message-ID: <000c01c1926b$59109720$6401a8c0@attbi.com> I am about to do some head-shots, just tight head and shoulders or even a bit tighter. With either of the lenses that I own that I might expect to do this, a 150/4C and a 250/5.6C neither has a minimum focus distance that will allow for such a tight frame. Do the portrait shooter among you use Proxars to get a tighter frame, and if so, which one (or two) would be most beneficial to me. Also assuming this is true, I can assume that the quality of the extra glass is still acceptable for some (non-diffused) sharp tight head shots? Regards, Douglas Tourtelot, CAS Seattle, WA tourtelot1@attbi.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:27:53 -0800 From: "Tourtelot" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Portrait technique question Message-ID: <000c01c1926b$ea8dc4c0$6401a8c0@attbi.com> Well, I guess that has to rate as a "dumb question." A NG search seems to indicate that Proxars would be more appropriate for shooting the mole on the model's face, which isn't what really want to do. So how do you guys/gals get in for those tight head-shots? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tourtelot" To: Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 6:23 PM Subject: [HUG] Portrait technique question > I am about to do some head-shots, just tight head and shoulders or even a > bit tighter. With either of the lenses that I own that I might expect to do > this, a 150/4C and a 250/5.6C neither has a minimum focus distance that will > allow for such a tight frame. Do the portrait shooter among you use Proxars > to get a tighter frame, and if so, which one (or two) would be most > beneficial to me. Also assuming this is true, I can assume that the quality > of the extra glass is still acceptable for some (non-diffused) sharp tight > head shots? > > Regards, > > Douglas Tourtelot, CAS > Seattle, WA > tourtelot1@attbi.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 00:50:58 EST From: BLADHASS@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] Portrait technique question Message-ID: <18a.14bab3a.2962a842@aol.com> --part1_18a.14bab3a.2962a842_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/31/2001 6:26:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, tourtelot1@attbi.com writes: > Well, I guess that has to rate as a "dumb question." A NG search seems to > indicate that Proxars would be more appropriate for shooting the mole on > the > model's face, which isn't what really want to do. So how do you guys/gals > get in for those tight head-shots? > > D. What about renting a 180mm or 120mm at Glazers, Optechs. Or try an extension tube, 21mm should work fine. Or you can just crop the picture in for a tighter shot. Peter Seattle, WA --part1_18a.14bab3a.2962a842_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/31/2001 6:26:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, tourtelot1@attbi.com writes:


Well, I guess that has to rate as a "dumb question."  A NG search seems to
indicate that Proxars would be more appropriate for shooting the mole on the
model's face, which isn't what  really want to do.  So how do you guys/gals
get in for those tight head-shots?

D.


What about renting a 180mm or 120mm at Glazers, Optechs. Or try an extension tube, 21mm should work fine. Or you can just crop the picture in for a tighter shot.
Peter
Seattle, WA --part1_18a.14bab3a.2962a842_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 01:12:02 -0500 From: Jesse Hellman To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] Portrait technique question Message-ID: <3C315334.CB8465DE@home.com> Use an extension tube with the 250. You do not want to get too close because of the distortion of the face that will result... Jesse Tourtelot wrote: > > Well, I guess that has to rate as a "dumb question." A NG search seems to > indicate that Proxars would be more appropriate for shooting the mole on the > model's face, which isn't what really want to do. So how do you guys/gals > get in for those tight head-shots? > > > > I am about to do some head-shots, just tight head and shoulders or even a > > bit tighter. With either of the lenses that I own that I might expect to > do > > this, a 150/4C and a 250/5.6C neither has a minimum focus distance that > will > > allow for such a tight frame. Do the portrait shooter among you use > Proxars > > to get a tighter frame, and if so, which one (or two) would be most > > beneficial to me. Also assuming this is true, I can assume that the > quality > > of the extra glass is still acceptable for some (non-diffused) sharp tight > > head shots? > > Douglas Tourtelot, CAS > > Seattle, WA > > tourtelot1@attbi.com ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #1456 ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm