hasselblad Sat, 12 Jan 2002 Volume 1 : Number 1467 In this issue: Re: [HUG] Digital options? Re: [HUG] Digital options? SWC filter clearance and parallax Re: HUG Question Re: AW: AW: [HUG] re: avoiding possible SWC/M 38mm biogon damage from filters... Re: hasselblad V1 #1466 FS: SWC and Low Angle Finder by Voigtlander What to sell? Re: [HUG] Re: HUG Question Re: Friday FS The Baby Photographer For Sale 01/11/02 Re: [HUG] 503CW or 203FE Re: [HUG] What to sell? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 04:33:06 -0500 From: "Cartier Bresson" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] Digital options? Message-ID: There is suppose to be a digital back for certain medium format cameras. It is called the LEAF. Calumet Photo in Bensenville, IL is giving a demo of this unit sometime next week. John ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Q.G. de Bakker" Reply-To: hasselblad@kelvin.net To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Digital options? Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 23:37:38 +0100 Lars Haven wrote: > > But what are the digital options with a Hasselblad. Are there any at all? > > And has anyone seen the new Canon EOS 1D? It looks pretty amazing. Trying > > to figure out....digital or Hassy...either way it's serious $$$ > > > I have been lurking on this fine list for a while now. Time to de-lurk. > > I have seen at leat one digital option. See www.imacon.dk in the products > section. I do not have any idea on prices or availability, but I expect > the things will be expensive. If you want to go digital without using film there are plenty options too. In fact, i don't know any manufacturer of digital backs that doesn't offer Hasselblad as camera platform, even Rollei! CreoScitex's Leaf C-Most (6.6 MegaPixel, approx. Euro 10,250); Heidelberg's Colorcam (6.3 MP, Euro 22,000); Imacon's two types of Flexframe (6 and 16 MP, Euro 23,000 and 27,500); Jenoptik's Eyelike (6.3 MP, Euro 19,000); Kodak's Pro Back Plus (16 MP, Euro 28,000); Megavision's S3 and S4 (6 and 16 MP, Euro 18,000 and 21,500); Mosaic Imaging's Luma (6 MP, Euro 20,800); PhaseOne's Lightphase and H20 (6 and 16 MP, Euro 22,000 and 26,500); Rollei's Gamma C6 (6 MP, Euro 22,500); and Sinar's Back 23 and Back 44 (6 and 16 MP, Euro 28,500 and 20,900/27,500). Imacon produces very high quality scanners to scan your negatives and slides as wel. Nikon and Polaroid too make good scanners (not quite as good as the Imacon, but plenty good enough). Minolta is joining them, but i don't know enough about their latest product to comment. All scanners produce considerably (!) more MegaPixels than any of the current available backs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 12:40:21 +0100 From: "Q.G. de Bakker" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Digital options? Message-ID: <003801c19a95$609a15c0$e2e6f1c3@qnu350> Cartier Bresson wrote: > There is suppose to be a digital back for certain medium format cameras. It > is called the LEAF. Calumet Photo in Bensenville, IL is giving a demo of > this unit sometime next week. It is in the list i posted. First one. ;-) The list only includes backs in current production. Scitex, for instance, have built other types of Leaf backs in the past. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 22:15:56 -0800 From: "bradleya" To: Subject: SWC filter clearance and parallax Message-ID: <004d01c19b30$b5ee18a0$7301a8c0@hometrain.com.tw> Filter clearance is something that should be checked for any lens when first attaching a filter. This is a lesson I learned many years ago with a brand new 210 Schneider Symmar. The only filters I use with my SWCM are both Zeiss (polarizer and haze). I just don't have any need for drop-in or other filtering. As for parallax, the first and only accy I bought was a ground glass back. That, coupled with either a mag hood or chimney finder, gives me pretty precise control over what will be on the transparency or negative. Most of the time though, I use it hand held, and I am usually far enough away from the subject that the discrepancies of the sides and top are nulled out with a minimum of cropping. If the periferal information of the subject is really important to me, then the camera goes on a tripod with the ground glass. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:13:17 -0500 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: HUG Question Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020111101240.051e26f0@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:59 AM 01/11/2002, you wrote: >I recently attempted to purchase a Lindahl Bell-O-Shade for the CFI lens. >The shade said it was for Hasselblad CF lens. The dealers said it would >require an adaptor that was not in stock. Any know if this is true or what >are you suggestions for a lens shade? The Bell-O-Shade is an adjustable pro lens hood that reduces flare and increases color saturation. It fits a number of cameras and most lenses from 35-105mm on 35mm format, 80-150mm on 6x6/6x7 format and 90-180mm on 6x7 format. The hood is constructed of a quality bellows material and durable injection-molded ABS plastic. The Bell-O-Shade can be extended 2" to 6" using appropriate extension rods, allowing it to be used with a variety of different focal length lenses. Next to the lens is a 3" x 1/4" square slot to accommodate filters. The front standard accepts 4.5" square montaging masks (for multiple exposures) or vignettes. NOTE: This item mounts directly to Hasselblad CF (Bay 60) lenses. An optional adapter ring is required to fit CB, CFi and CFE lenses (LIARHCB). Other lenses require an optional size 8 adapter ring. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:16:44 -0500 From: henryp@bhphotovideo.com To: Subject: Re: AW: AW: [HUG] re: avoiding possible SWC/M 38mm biogon damage from filters... Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020111101604.051e5ba0@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:59 AM 01/11/2002, "Dr. Ulrik Neupert" wrote: >------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C199F0.94968DE0 >Content-Type: text/x-vcard; > name="Neupert, Ulrik.vcf" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="Neupert, Ulrik.vcf" > >BEGIN:VCARD >VERSION:2.1 >N:Neupert;Ulrik;;Dr. >FN:Neupert, Ulrik >ORG:Fraunhofer INT;Technologieanalysen u. -vorausschau >NOTE;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:=0D=0A >TEL;WORK;VOICE:02251/18-224 >TEL;HOME;VOICE:02254/969257 >TEL;CELL;VOICE:0177-3288009 >TEL;WORK;FAX:02251/18-377 >TEL;HOME;FAX:0180/505255803418 >ADR;WORK:;;Appelsgarten 2;Euskirchen;;53879 >LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Appelsgarten 2=0D=0AEuskirchen 53879 >ADR;HOME:;;Trierer Str. 45;Weilerswist;;53919 >LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Trierer Str. 45=0D=0AWeilerswist 53919 >URL;WORK:http://www.int.fhg.de/ >EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:ulrik.neupert@int.fhg.de >REV:20011121T114905Z >END:VCARD > >------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C199F0.94968DE0-- Is this REALLY necessary? <> hp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:21:28 -0500 From: Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video To: Subject: Re: hasselblad V1 #1466 Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020111101946.051e5930@bnhpop1.bhphotovideo.com> At 03:59 AM 01/11/2002, you wrote: >But what are the digital options with a Hasselblad. Are there any at all? Several manufacturers offer digital backs for one or more Hassy bodies. Kodak, Leaf, MegaVision come to mind. >And has anyone seen the new Canon EOS 1D? It looks pretty amazing. Sure. we've sold about 3 dozen since the beginning of Deecember. -- regards, Henry Posner Director of Sales and Training B&H Photo-Video, and Pro-Audio Inc. http://www.bhphotovideo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:36:21 -0500 From: Bob Keene To: hassydigest Subject: FS: SWC and Low Angle Finder by Voigtlander Message-ID: Selling my Hasselblad SWC (Super Wide C)#2766843. In Exc+ shape. Normal wear on barrel and rear where magazine attaches. Recently had the shutter rebuilt and adjusted by Peter Rosenthal (PR Camera Repair Tuscon AZ- if you don=B9t use him, you should!!) Sold with the standard finder and filter retaining ring, front and rear cap AND a Hasselblad =8C50=B9 lens shade, which can screw on with the filter retaining ring removed. Some say that this shade vignettes- but I have not seen any! Asking $1350 plus shipping. In addition I have a Like New Voigtlander Low Angle Finder for the SWC, Swc/m Bought for $500 with case and original box- will sell for $350. This is the sharpest finder I have ever used! (see details of it at: www.cameraquest.com/inventor.htm Can accept Paypal, M/C Visa, or postal mo. I=B9m in the Boston area=8A.. Regards, Bob Keene Keene Vision Photography (800)684-7699 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:52:48 +0100 From: m.giphart@syntegra.nl To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Cc: giphart@pzh.nl Subject: What to sell? Message-ID: <709A336AA1FFD21181680008C75DDA700572B46E@SNLRES01> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19AB8.04809480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Hassyians, A week ago I was able to buy an almost new, but secondhand set of Hasselblad-equipment for a very, very low price. As I am already a Hasselblad-owner I now have a problem, albeit a luxury one! Because of this purchase I now have a few items that are so close in functionality that some of these will have to go, but I am not sure which ones. I want to keep the best items and sell the less-than-best items. I use a 501C and a 501 CM. Therefore I would like to ask a few questions: 1 - Having both an old, but beautiful C 150mm/F4 T* and an almost new CB 160mm/F4.8 I wonder which one to keep? The 150/F4 is in very good shape so I don't need any newer lens, unless it is a better performer, which I doubt. However, the handling of the CB-lens is a lot better. 2 - I am very fond of my old, non-T* C 100mm / 3.5, but now I posses an almost new CB 80/2.8 I wonder which one to keep? Or are these lenses very different in use? If that is the case I will keep them both. I think the 100 mm is one of the best optics in the line and mine is in a very good shape. 3 - If I might step into the 200-series one of these days, could this influence any of these decisions? If I ever do I want to have a body that accepts as much series of lenses as possible, old and new. Thanks in advance! Regards, Martin Giphart ----------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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Dear Hassyians,

A week ago I was able to buy an almost new, but = secondhand set of Hasselblad-equipment for a very, very low price. As I = am already a Hasselblad-owner I now have a problem, albeit a luxury = one! Because of this purchase I now have a few items that are so close = in functionality that some of these will have to go, but I am not sure = which ones. I want to keep the best items and sell the less-than-best = items. I use a 501C and a 501 CM.

Therefore I would like to ask a few questions:
1 - Having both an old, but beautiful C 150mm/F4 T* = and an almost new CB 160mm/F4.8 I wonder which one to keep? The 150/F4 = is in very good shape so I don't need any newer lens, unless it is a = better performer, which I doubt. However, the handling of the CB-lens = is a lot better.

2 - I am very fond of my old, non-T* C 100mm / 3.5, = but now I posses an almost new CB 80/2.8 I wonder which one to keep? Or = are these lenses very different in use? If that is the case I will keep = them both. I think the 100 mm is one of the best optics in the line and = mine is in a very good shape.

3 - If I might step into the 200-series one of these = days, could this influence any of these decisions? If I ever do I want = to have a body that accepts as much series of lenses as possible, old = and new.


Thanks in advance!

Regards,

Martin Giphart

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C19AB8.04809480-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:19:46 +0100 From: "Q.G. de Bakker" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Re: HUG Question Message-ID: <000d01c19acc$8e549bc0$dee3f1c3@qnu350> Henry Posner/B&H Photo-Video wrote: > NOTE: This item mounts directly to Hasselblad CF (Bay > 60) lenses. An optional adapter ring is > required to fit CB, CFi and CFE lenses (LIARHCB). > Other lenses require an optional size 8 adapter > ring. Why? CB, CFi and CFE lenses are Bay 60 too, just like the CF lenses. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:09:11 -0500 From: "Patrick R. McKee" To: Subject: Re: Friday FS Message-ID: <006901c19acb$12e4aee0$0101a8c0@pavilion> Hello, Free Overnight Shipping (US) - Fed Ex or Airborne. A few items for sale - Special Prices 55105 D-Flash - $481. reduced $100. = $381. 42217 Matte D Split Screen - $314. reduced $64. = $250. 44105 Winder 503CW 503 CXi - $1036. reduced $200. = $836. 20062 150mm CFi - $2924. reduced $524. = $2400. Web Special - XPan Kit - $1495. New Full USA Warranty. FedEx Overnight - 1 in stock. Ask about our 3 payment plan - no interest. All new - full USA Warranty. Toll Free - 1-877 - 44 A TRIP Taking calls Noon-Midnight Eastern Thank you, Pat McKee Visa, MasterCard, Amex, Discover www.photonewsnetwork.com www.hasselbladstore.com Leica, Canon, Hasselblad, Rollei, Minox, Sea & Sea ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:54:39 +0700 From: "Peter G. Walker" To: Hasselblad Subject: The Baby Photographer Message-ID: If the forum administrator finds this photo joke to be in bad taste or contravening the forum's rules, please feel free to delete it. But I didn't think that it was too rude and good photography jokes are hard to come by: The Baby Photographer -------------------- The Smiths were unable to conceive children, and elected to use a surrogate father to start their family. On the day the proxy father was to arrive, Mr. Smith kissed his wife and said, "I'm off. The man should be here soon." Half an hour later, just by chance, a door-to-door baby photographer rang the doorbell, hoping to make a sale. "Good morning madam. I've come to..." "Oh, no need to explain. I've been expecting you," Mrs. Smith cut in. "Really?" the photographer asked. "Well, good! I've made a specialty of babies." "That's what my husband and I had hoped. Please come in and have a seat." After a moment she asked, blushing, "Well, where do we start?" "Leave everything to me. I usually try two in the bathtub, one on the couch and perhaps a couple on the bed. Sometimes the living room floor is fun too; you can really spread out!" "Bathtub, living room floor? No wonder it didn't work for Harry and me." "Well, madam, none of us can guarantee a good one every time. But if we try several different positions and I shoot from six or seven angles, I'm sure you'll be pleased with the results." "My, that's a lot of. . . " gasped Mrs. Smith. "Madam, in my line of work, a man must take his time. I'd love to be in and out in five minutes, but you'd be disappointed with that, I'm sure." "Don't I know it," Mrs. Smith said quietly. The photographer opened his briefcase and pulled out a portfolio of his baby pictures. "This was done on the top of a bus in downtown London." "Oh my God!!" Mrs. Smith exclaimed, tugging at her handkerchief. "And these twins turned out exceptionally well - when you consider their mother was so difficult to work with." "She was difficult?" asked Mrs. Smith. "Yes, I'm afraid so. I finally had to take her to Hyde Park to get the job done right. People were crowding around four and five deep, pushing to get a good look." "Four and five deep?" asked Mrs. Smith, eyes widened in amazement. "Yes", the photographer said. "And for more than three hours, too. The mother was constantly squealing and yelling - I could hardly concentrate. Then darkness approached and I began to rush my shots. Finally, when the squirrels began nibbling on my equipment, I just packed it all in." Mrs. Smith leaned forward. "You mean they actually chewed on your, um...equipment?" "That's right. Well, madam, if you're ready, I'll set up my tripod so that we can get to work." "Tripod?" "Oh yes, I have to use a tripod to rest my Canon on. It's much too big for me to hold very long. Madam? Madam?...Good Lord, she's fainted!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:57:16 -0800 From: Jim Brick To: HUG Subject: For Sale 01/11/02 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020111205652.03bc8a38@pop.alink.net> Hasselblad CW Winder & remote, Demo, complete, all papers, bags, pouches, boxes, unregistered US Warranty papers, etc. Used only a very few times. $600. 10 day return privilege, I pay FedEx to US locations, checks accepted from known HUGgers, LEGgers, & LUGgers. Jim Brick 408-499-0569 (cell - anytime) 408-247-0312 (home - evenings, weekends, holidays) jim@brick.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 00:30:19 -0500 From: "Charlie Goodwin" To: "hasselblad@kelvin.net" Subject: Re: [HUG] 503CW or 203FE Message-ID: <200201120454.g0C4sGo28335@smtp.mcttelecom.com> Hi there, Your English is much better than you think. In your main "prepress related" business (scanning/layout/short-run), what = sort of work will you be doing with a camera? "I never imagined the Hassy system will be so hard to operate as you pointe= d out (I think get great photo is), it's discouraging and then challenging.= I'll dig the archives and the net to study more." Please don't get discouraged, but perhaps imagine that photography for a ph= otographer with little experience and a relativly complex new camera is lik= e juggling many balls at once; too many things to pay attention to at one t= ime. Not impossible, but you will drop a few balls at the start. Are you near anywhere you could rent or borrow a Hasselblad? It can be ve= ry helpful to try before you purchase, especially when you have no personal= knowledge of the various products you are choosing between. Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 21:21:34 -0800 From: Patrick Bartek To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] What to sell? Message-ID: <0201112121340E.29983@localhost.localdomain> On Friday 11 January 2002 07:52, m.giphart@syntegra.nl wrote: > A week ago I was able to buy an almost new, but secondhand set of > Hasselblad-equipment for a very, very low price. As I am already a > Hasselblad-owner I now have a problem, albeit a luxury one! Because > of this purchase I now have a few items that are so close in > functionality that some of these will have to go, but I am not sure > which ones. I want to keep the best items and sell the less-than-best > items. I use a 501C and a 501 CM. > > Therefore I would like to ask a few questions: > 1 - Having both an old, but beautiful C 150mm/F4 T* and an almost new > CB 160mm/F4.8 I wonder which one to keep? The 150/F4 is in very good > shape so I don't need any newer lens, unless it is a better > performer, which I doubt. However, the handling of the CB-lens is a > lot better. Keep the 150. > 2 - I am very fond of my old, non-T* C 100mm / 3.5, but now I posses > an almost new CB 80/2.8 I wonder which one to keep? Or are these > lenses very different in use? If that is the case I will keep them > both. I think the 100 mm is one of the best optics in the line and > mine is in a very good shape. Keep the 100. Non-T* or not, it is superior to any 80 model lens. > 3 - If I might step into the 200-series > one of these days, could this influence any of these decisions? If I > ever do I want to have a body that accepts as much series of lenses > as possible, old and new. If you want the full advantage of the focal plane cameras, you'll want to get the FE lens, too. So, don't let the future 200 series cameras affect you lens decisions for your current 500 series bodies. After you sell off the 80 and 160, use that money to get a nice, used T* 50 to round out your system. Also, please turn off HTML in your e-mail client. Plain text only. Thanks. -- Patrick Bartek NoLife Polymath Group bartek@intermind.net ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #1467 ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm