hasselblad Mon, 14 Jan 2002 Volume 1 : Number 1469 In this issue: Re: [HUG] Anticipating the sun's location for a 6x6 shoot Re: Lewis and his scratched lens Re: [HUG] The Baby Photographer Sonnar question Re: [HUG] 150 Sonnar with scratch Re: [HUG] The Baby Photographer re: flare reduction CB >> CT* >C ?? Re: [HUG] Re: Lewis and his scratched lens Re: [HUG] 150 Sonnar with scratch Re: [HUG] Re: Lewis and his scratched lens Re: Lewis and his scratched lens RE: [HUG] Anticipating the sun's location for a 6x6 shoot RE: [HUG] Anticipating the sun's location for a 6x6 shoot RE: [HUG] Anticipating the sun's location for a 6x6 shoot Anticipating the sun's location for a 6x6 shoot RE: [HUG] Anticipating the sun's location for a 6x6 shoot Re: [HUG] The Baby Photographer Re: [HUG] 150 Sonnar with scratch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:31:16 +0000 From: Tim Franklin To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Anticipating the sun's location for a 6x6 shoot Message-ID: on 13/1/02 1:21 am, Jim Brick at jim@brick.org wrote: > I have one. Marvelous instrument. With it, a map, and a parallel ruler, you > can predict exactly when and where the sun will rise. I used it to predict > exactly when the sun would rise directly over the TransAmerica building, > with the Golden Gate Bridge in the foreground, while I photographed from > the Marin headlands. It is that precise. Called a Sundicator. From Thomas > Spencer Enterprises in Santa Barbara CA. But alas, I believe Tom is no > longer in business. > > Jim > > > At 06:10 PM 1/12/2002 -0500, VinLiN92@cs.com wrote: >> Fellow RUGgers, HUGgers: >> >> In a magazine I saw an outfit selling dials which would indicate the location >> of the sun in the sky at various latitudes at various times and seasons. I >> just don't remember where I saw their ad. >> >> Of course, they may have gone digital (or someone else has) and that tool is >> no longer available. >> >> Got a clue, anyone? >> >> Vincent L. Gookin >> vinlin92@cs.com The UK mag Practical Photography offers a sun position compass on its shop pages. Appears to be made by a company called Logistic Locations (Tel: +44 (0)181 575 6601). Alternatively, the PP Photoshop details are: Tel (24 hrs): +44 (0)1733 840111 Fax: 01733 840465 e-mail: respons.ability@virgin.net Tim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 22:37:03 -0800 From: "bradleya" To: Subject: Re: Lewis and his scratched lens Message-ID: <002401c19cc5$e29e4c80$7301a8c0@hometrain.com.tw> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C19C82.D2CFCD80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lewis, I'm sure that exercise equipment had a few scratches on it, so = scratch-wise you probably came out on the long end of the stick :-) Seriously, I have a 50 FLE that was shipped to me with a filter attached = and the package took a good whack, shattering the filter. As a result, = the lens got a few microscopic gouges taken out of the glass and several = other little peck marks in the coating. Of course I was devastated because although the lens was sold as used, = it was inflawless condition. I have shot at least ten test rolls through this lens at all settings = and it is as sharp as Granny's whiskers. =20 (Provia 100 =3D 20X Ilfochrome 8X8's) Guess what, I know the blemishes are there, and if I ever would want = to sell it the buyer would immediately want $1000.00 off. Tough luck, I = didn't buy it to sell, I bought it to use. Don't worry nor fret. Use it and enjoy it. I'm off to Nepal next = Sunday for four weeks (fourth trip), and the fifty will get a lot of = use. Sleep well. Brad Vance ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C19C82.D2CFCD80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lewis,
 
I'm sure that exercise equipment had a = few=20 scratches on it, so scratch-wise you probably came out on the long end = of the=20 stick :-)
 
Seriously, I have a 50 FLE that was = shipped to me=20 with a filter attached and the package took a good whack, shattering the = filter.  As a result, the lens got a few microscopic gouges taken = out of=20 the glass and several other little peck marks in the = coating.
 
Of course I was devastated because = although the=20 lens was sold as used, it was inflawless condition.
 
I have shot at least ten test rolls = through this=20 lens at all settings and it is as sharp as Granny's = whiskers.
 
(Provia 100 =3D 20X Ilfochrome = 8X8's)
 
Guess what, I know the blemishes are = there, and=20 if I ever would want to sell it the buyer would immediately want = $1000.00=20 off.  Tough luck, I didn't buy it to sell, I bought it to=20 use.
 
Don't worry nor fret.  = Use it and=20 enjoy it.  I'm off to Nepal next Sunday for four weeks (fourth = trip), and=20 the fifty will get a lot of use.
 
Sleep well.
 
Brad = Vance
------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C19C82.D2CFCD80-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:38:22 +0530 From: "Sharookh Mehta" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] The Baby Photographer Message-ID: <000e01c19c44$252e8740$06c809c0@sharookh> Gotta put mine a tripod Bernard!! Sharookh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernard Ferster" To: Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [HUG] The Baby Photographer > At 01:28 PM 1/12/2002 +0530, you wrote: > >I want to be a baby photographer;-) > > That's O.K. with me, but will you be big enough to handle a 'blad? > ...............................B.F................... > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:21:58 -0500 From: Lewis Weber To: HUG Subject: Sonnar question Message-ID: <3C41B426.6CBFCC86@worldnet.att.net> Hello HUG: Thanks for the comments on the "scratching issue." I have used Peter's crayon technique, and I agree with Brad that I got the better part of the deal given that I have not used the exercise equipment for several years. This is my first experience with a 150 T* and it seems like the image in the viewfinder is more sharply defined than with my 80 and 50 "C" lenses. Is this an artifact of the longer focal length, a coating difference, or just my imagination? -Lewis Weber ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:40:51 +0530 From: "Sharookh Mehta" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] 150 Sonnar with scratch Message-ID: <002801c19c44$7d502c80$06c809c0@sharookh> I had the same problem on a 140-280 which I used some time back. No trace of it showed up on my pics. Almost impossible - wide open. Sharookh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lewis Weber" To: Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 11:36 PM Subject: [HUG] 150 Sonnar with scratch > Hello HUG: > > I was recently traded some exercise equipment for a 150 Prontar f/4 CF > Sonnar lens that has a small scratch (less than one millimeter) in the > center of the rear element. The scratch actually goes into the glass a > bit. Otherwise the lens is mint. The scratch has yet to show up on my > chromes, but it bugs me to no end just knowing that the scratch is > there. Opinions on whether or not it is worth getting fixed? > > Lewis Weber > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 12:21:21 -0500 From: Bernard Ferster To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] The Baby Photographer Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020113122016.00a17ec0@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net> At 08:38 PM 1/13/2002 +0530, you wrote: >Gotta put mine a tripod Bernard!! Me too, but not because of youth, palsy of the aged. .........................B.F.................... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 13:50:17 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Monaghan To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: re: flare reduction CB >> CT* >C ?? Message-ID: Doug said: If so, the CB lenses will perform noticeably better in color saturation and shadow detail than the C lenses, which will be plagued with veiling glare. This is because the CBs have the superior flare reduction techniques - end-quote This is quite interesting. My impression from the press releases was that the newer lenses were mainly using superior baffling (and lens mount flare spot reductions?) to reduce or minimize off-axis hot spot (sun..) flare. I don't recall if the coatings were improved significantly over T* or not? The few lab tests I have seen on veiling glare suggest that there is very little difference between coated and multicoated lenses in this respect, viz: quote: Using a very precise laboratory analyzer.. we could detect virtually no measurable difference in background flare between the single-coated and the multicoated lenses. And in our portraits, which were shot against the same backlit screen used by our analyzer, we could detect no difference in flare within transparencies produced by single- and multicoated leness (see photographs, page 93)! - endquote source: Multi-Coating, Asset or Gimmick, Bennett Sherman and Hiroshi Kimata, Modern Photography, June 1975. see also http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/mf/coatings.html here is their simple and easy to reproduce real world flare test using a subject with dark clothes and a backlighted screen for high contrast: If we overexposed our main subject by six f/stops or more, flare light could be found in the dark areas of the subject. But, the difference in the amount of flare (in such abnormal circumstances) between single- and multicoated lenses was very minimal...[Ibid., p. 134] (endquote) This sounds similar to what Doug is proposing as problematic in his studio shots. It would be interesting to repeat Sherman's tests with the new vs. older hasselblad lenses to see the extent of differences visible in the shots (preferably with a blind lens testing procedure to eliminate biases?). Perhaps someone with access to both old and new lenses can run the experiment and see how much of an improvement is visible? I am sure there are some improvements and situations in which the newer lenses do better with flarey situations. But the older lenses don't seem to bad either ;-) I wonder if this was such a problem in the past why they waited 27 years to fix it, given the low cost of baffling and black paint? But I could be wrong in thinking this was mainly an advertising gimmick to get us to run out and buy all new glass and denigrate our existing optics. But then again, if true, perhaps a lot of you will sell out your older deficient optics to me at firesale prices? ;-) ;-) grins bobm * Robert Monaghan POB752182 Southern Methodist University, Dallas Tx 75275 * * Third Party 35mm Lenses: http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/third/index.html * * Medium Format Cameras: http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/mf/index.html * ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:55:07 -0800 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net, Subject: Re: [HUG] Re: Lewis and his scratched lens Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020113114609.03dc3d68@pop.alink.net> --=====================_-867100334==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:37 PM 1/13/2002 -0800, bradleya wrote: > >Seriously, I have a 50 FLE that was shipped to me with a filter attached >and the package took a good whack, shattering the filter. As a result, >the lens got a few microscopic gouges taken out of the glass and several >other little peck marks in the coating. This is E-X-A-C-T-L-Y what I tell people who insist that a filter is a way to protect one's front lens element. Your 50 FLE isn't the first lens I've seen damaged by a broken filter. As a matter of fact, the O-N-L-Y front elements I've ever seen damaged were damaged by a broken filter. This reporting ups the count to five. Five by a broken filter, zero with no filter. The moral of this story is: Have a filter on your lens, while photographing, when, and only when, the filter will ENHANCE your photograph. Otherwise, it will degrade your photograph and you stand a chance of damaging your lens. Thanks for the confirmation Brad... :) Jim --=====================_-867100334==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 10:37 PM 1/13/2002 -0800, bradleya wrote:
 
Seriously, I have a 50 FLE that was shipped to me with a filter attached and the package took a good whack, shattering the filter.  As a result, the lens got a few microscopic gouges taken out of the glass and several other little peck marks in the coating.


This is E-X-A-C-T-L-Y what I tell people who insist that a filter is a way to protect one's front lens element.

Your 50 FLE isn't the first lens I've seen damaged by a broken filter. As a matter of fact, the O-N-L-Y front elements I've ever seen damaged were damaged by a broken filter. This reporting ups the count to five. Five by a broken filter, zero with no filter.

The moral of this story is: Have a filter on your lens, while photographing, when, and only when, the filter will ENHANCE your photograph. Otherwise, it will degrade your photograph and you stand a chance of damaging your lens.

Thanks for the confirmation Brad...

:)

Jim --=====================_-867100334==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:56:59 -0800 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Cc: "Sharookh Mehta" Subject: Re: [HUG] 150 Sonnar with scratch Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020113115544.03e16b88@pop.alink.net> At 08:40 PM 1/13/2002 +0530, Sharookh Mehta wrote: >I had the same problem on a 140-280 which I used some time back. No trace of >it showed up on my pics. Almost impossible - wide open. > >Sharookh Sarookh, Was your 140-280 damaged by a broken filter? If not, how? Thanks, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 22:50:55 +0000 From: Tim Franklin To: Subject: Re: [HUG] Re: Lewis and his scratched lens Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3093807086_1332701_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable on 13/1/02 7:55 pm, Jim Brick at jim@brick.org wrote: >The moral of this story is: Have a filter on your lens, while photographin= g, when, and >only when, the filter will ENHANCE your photograph. Otherwise, i= t will degrade your >photograph and you stand a chance of damaging your lens. =8A=8Aand also when there are small children with sticky fingers around!! :o) --MS_Mac_OE_3093807086_1332701_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [HUG] Re: Lewis and his scratched lens on 13/1/02 7:55 pm, Jim Brick at jim@brick.org wrote:

    <snip>

>The moral of this story is: Have a filter on your lens, whi= le photographing, when, and >only when, the filter will ENHANCE your phot= ograph. Otherwise, it will degrade your >photograph and you stand a chanc= e of damaging your lens.


=8A=8Aand also when there are small children with sticky fingers around!! :o)

--MS_Mac_OE_3093807086_1332701_MIME_Part-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:19:07 -0700 From: Peter Rosenthal To: Subject: Re: Lewis and his scratched lens Message-ID: "Your 50 FLE isn't the first lens I've seen damaged by a broken filter. As = a matter of fact, the O-N-L-Y front elements I've ever seen damaged were damaged by a broken filter. This reporting ups the count to five. Five by a broken filter, zero with no filter." Eeeeeee Gads!!!! I can't let this go by without comment! While no doubt well intentioned, this stuff borders on irresponsible. While the only damage Ji= m has seen to front elements has been with filters on, I have to say my count is very, very different and have come to different conclusions entirely. Th= e original post of this thread was damage to a rear element where obviously n= o filter was installed on the rear element. He forgot to add this to his total. While impact damage to lens glass does happen with filters on, to imply that this is the only way (or even the most likely cause) is wrong. Not to pull rank or anything, but I've seen thousands, maybe tens of thousands of lenses with damage because of no filter. I'm not just talking about impact damage to glass as has been described, but cleaning damage, an= d no protection from impact. Most people on earth figure cleaning is good. It would be hard to dispute this on principle, but in reality a lens that has been cleaned poorly or continuously, functions much worse than one that is just dirty. If dust or sand is between you and the glass when you clean it, it WILL scratch the coatings. Do this enough times (as is necessary when there is no filter installed) and your coatings will suffer. A lens element with ba= d coatings is no less damaged than one with scratches on the glass itself. Ruined is ruined. There is no damage I see in my business more common than scratched coatings. None. Except maybe dirty lens elements. Both can be prevented almost completely by filters. Sure filters get scratched, but it's cheaper than the alternative and is not permanent. Along with scratched coatings I see many, many lenses that have been saved by the use of filters. How about the guy who looks in his rearview mirror while driving away from a shoot just in time to see his 150 CF following him down the road like a loyal puppy. The rear lens cap protecte= d the rear element while the front filter protected the glass and filter mount. It looked like hell but there was no damage to the glass. He was the= n able to put on a new filter and use it. He was very happy. Or how about the poor fellow who dropped his 50 C and it landed in the cinder sand that we have in abundance here in N. Arizona. The filter looked like hell but h= e removed it and kept shooting. And on and on and on.... My moral to this story is any protection is good protection (good filters included) and should be used with a smile and confidence. Leaving filters off to protect lenses is a bad idea. :=80} Peter --=20 Peter Rosenthal PR Camera Repair 111 E. Aspen #1 Flagstaff, AZ 86001 928 779-5263 =20 =20 =20 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:15:53 -0800 From: "Rod Leavitt" To: Subject: RE: [HUG] Anticipating the sun's location for a 6x6 shoot Message-ID: Perhaps this will help: http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html Rod -----Original Message----- From: Tim Franklin [mailto:tim_franklin@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 2:31 AM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] Anticipating the sun's location for a 6x6 shoot on 13/1/02 1:21 am, Jim Brick at jim@brick.org wrote: > I have one. Marvelous instrument. With it, a map, and a parallel ruler, you > can predict exactly when and where the sun will rise. I used it to predict > exactly when the sun would rise directly over the TransAmerica building, > with the Golden Gate Bridge in the foreground, while I photographed from > the Marin headlands. It is that precise. Called a Sundicator. From Thomas > Spencer Enterprises in Santa Barbara CA. But alas, I believe Tom is no > longer in business. > > Jim > > > At 06:10 PM 1/12/2002 -0500, VinLiN92@cs.com wrote: >> Fellow RUGgers, HUGgers: >> >> In a magazine I saw an outfit selling dials which would indicate the location >> of the sun in the sky at various latitudes at various times and seasons. I >> just don't remember where I saw their ad. >> >> Of course, they may have gone digital (or someone else has) and that tool is >> no longer available. >> >> Got a clue, anyone? >> >> Vincent L. Gookin >> vinlin92@cs.com The UK mag Practical Photography offers a sun position compass on its shop pages. Appears to be made by a company called Logistic Locations (Tel: +44 (0)181 575 6601). Alternatively, the PP Photoshop details are: Tel (24 hrs): +44 (0)1733 840111 Fax: 01733 840465 e-mail: respons.ability@virgin.net Tim ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:23:59 -0800 From: "Rod Leavitt" To: Subject: RE: [HUG] Anticipating the sun's location for a 6x6 shoot Message-ID: Actually, if you want the actual position in the sky, then this is better: http://www.srrb.noaa.gov/highlights/sunrise/azel.html Rod -----Original Message----- From: Rod Leavitt [mailto:leavitts@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 4:16 PM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE: [HUG] Anticipating the sun's location for a 6x6 shoot Perhaps this will help: http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html Rod -----Original Message----- From: Tim Franklin [mailto:tim_franklin@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 2:31 AM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: [HUG] Anticipating the sun's location for a 6x6 shoot on 13/1/02 1:21 am, Jim Brick at jim@brick.org wrote: > I have one. Marvelous instrument. With it, a map, and a parallel ruler, you > can predict exactly when and where the sun will rise. I used it to predict > exactly when the sun would rise directly over the TransAmerica building, > with the Golden Gate Bridge in the foreground, while I photographed from > the Marin headlands. It is that precise. Called a Sundicator. From Thomas > Spencer Enterprises in Santa Barbara CA. But alas, I believe Tom is no > longer in business. > > Jim > > > At 06:10 PM 1/12/2002 -0500, VinLiN92@cs.com wrote: >> Fellow RUGgers, HUGgers: >> >> In a magazine I saw an outfit selling dials which would indicate the location >> of the sun in the sky at various latitudes at various times and seasons. I >> just don't remember where I saw their ad. >> >> Of course, they may have gone digital (or someone else has) and that tool is >> no longer available. >> >> Got a clue, anyone? >> >> Vincent L. Gookin >> vinlin92@cs.com The UK mag Practical Photography offers a sun position compass on its shop pages. Appears to be made by a company called Logistic Locations (Tel: +44 (0)181 575 6601). Alternatively, the PP Photoshop details are: Tel (24 hrs): +44 (0)1733 840111 Fax: 01733 840465 e-mail: respons.ability@virgin.net Tim ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. 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To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:31:04 -0800 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net, Subject: RE: [HUG] Anticipating the sun's location for a 6x6 shoot Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020113162015.03e6af20@pop.alink.net> The nice thing about my Sundicator is that it is small, flat, and I carry it, a "Multidraft" parallel ruler (Design Instrument Manufacturing Co.), and a very small compass in one of the pockets in my camera pack. This and a map of where you are going to be photographing are all you need. No computer involved. The Sundicator gives you perfect alignment of exactly where the sun will rise or set, based upon where you are standing at the moment. And before you get there so you will know exactly where to be, and when to be there, for the alignment that you want. Last year I photographed the falls at Julia Pfiffer Burns State Park. I wanted the sun to be setting and pointing right into the falls (evening warm light) so I mapped it out on a CA USGS costal map using the Sundicator system and it told me exactly where to be, and what day and time to be there. Jim At 04:15 PM 1/13/2002 -0800, Rod Leavitt wrote: >Perhaps this will help: > > >http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html > > >Rod ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:37:15 EST From: VinLiN92@cs.com Cc: VinLiN92@cs.com Subject: Anticipating the sun's location for a 6x6 shoot Message-ID: <168.71d0d93.2973823b@cs.com> Many, MANY thanks for all the really great input on locating the star of my life. Vincent L. Gookin vinlin92@cs.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:21:08 +1100 From: "Morgan, Andrew" To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: RE: [HUG] Anticipating the sun's location for a 6x6 shoot Message-ID: A link to somewhere that sell's the sun position compass online http://www.panastore.com/panastore/products/product_detail.asp?Inventory=231 Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:39:21 +0530 From: "Sharookh Mehta" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] The Baby Photographer Message-ID: <001801c19cb9$a0c48100$06c809c0@sharookh> Well at least we both ensure 'no 'blad shake' ;-) Best wishes Sharookh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernard Ferster" To: Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [HUG] The Baby Photographer > > > At 08:38 PM 1/13/2002 +0530, you wrote: > >Gotta put mine a tripod Bernard!! > > Me too, but not because of youth, palsy of the aged. > .........................B.F.................... > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. Use text mode only. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:41:52 +0530 From: "Sharookh Mehta" To: Subject: Re: [HUG] 150 Sonnar with scratch Message-ID: <002301c19cb9$faddb080$06c809c0@sharookh> Jim - the rear element had a slight scratch when it came to me.. No idea how it got there. But I rejected it because of the size of the lens not the quality. Infact I was very pleased with the optics - despite the scratch. Sharookh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Brick" To: Cc: "Sharookh Mehta" Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [HUG] 150 Sonnar with scratch > At 08:40 PM 1/13/2002 +0530, Sharookh Mehta wrote: > >I had the same problem on a 140-280 which I used some time back. No trace of > >it showed up on my pics. Almost impossible - wide open. > > > >Sharookh > > > Sarookh, > > Was your 140-280 damaged by a broken filter? If not, how? > > Thanks, > > Jim > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > Please turn off HTML mail features prior to posting to this list. 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