hasselblad Wed, 2 Feb 2000 Volume 1 : Number 783 In this issue: 40mm CF and polarizer SV: 40mm CF and polarizer RE: KEH RE: KEH Re: KEH Re: 40mm CF and polarizer Re: SV: 40mm CF and polarizer Re: SV: 40mm CF and polarizer Re: 40mm CF and filters ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:05:37 -0500 (EST) From: Ross Warner - Information Products To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Cc: rossw@bert.East.Sun.COM Subject: 40mm CF and polarizer Message-ID: <200001311505.KAA28994@bert.East.Sun.COM> I just bought a Zeiss 40mm CF lens, new in the box, at a pretty good discount vs. a 40mm CFE. I will be using it with a 503CW camera and mostly color film. I bought this lens for landscape use, and I often use a polarizer for this application with my 35mm gear. However, the design of the 40mm lens seems to make using a polarizer difficult. Filters are unthreaded and drop in, and are held in place by the screw-in lens hood. The dealer told me that the only way to use a polarizer with this lens is to get the pro lens hood, which costs about $500 over the price of the (already expensive) 93mm polarizer. I wouldn't expect to use the pro lens shade with my other lens (an 80mm). Has anyone out there found a way to use a polarizer with the 40mm, without the pro lens shade? Is the Cokin system an option? Thanks, -Ross ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:58:48 +0100 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?ULF_SJ=D6GREN?=" To: "Ross Warner - Information Products" , Subject: SV: 40mm CF and polarizer Message-ID: <000501bf6cb4$15b41620$319997d4@oemcomputer> Hi Ross I can't answar the entire set of questions but I can tell you that the = Coquin system is of little help for you. I have it and like it and use = it but not for any focal length less than 50 mm. It is not usable for my = SWC due to vignetting and the diff. 38 - 40 mm I don't think will help = you get rid of that problem. Still I am able to use the other Coqin = filters with that special camera if I hold them in place with my = hand....... Maybe it doesn't look so "professional" as having everything = attached to the camera, on the other hand that can't be seen on the = final picture (if you are careful.....;) ). And in my opinion that is = what counts. For the 50 mm lens I have a 63mm (I think it is) Hoya -yes = it is an older lens- and that works good. Of course there is a solotution for this and it can't possiply be the = pro lens shade that is a really good thing per se but using it with a 40 = mm lens is ....... nearly ......... no idea (to express it as p=F6litely = as possible). Ulf Sj=F6gren Sweden -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: Ross Warner - Information Products Till: hasselblad@kelvin.net Kopia: rossw@bert.East.Sun.COM Datum: den 1 februari 2000 11:44 =C4mne: 40mm CF and polarizer >I just bought a Zeiss 40mm CF lens, new in the box, at a pretty good=20 >discount vs. a 40mm CFE. I will be using it with a 503CW camera and = mostly color=20 >film. > >I bought this lens for landscape use, and I often use a polarizer for = this >application with my 35mm gear. However, the design of the 40mm lens = seems >to make using a polarizer difficult. Filters are unthreaded and drop = in,=20 >and are held in place by the screw-in lens hood. The dealer told me = that the=20 >only way to use a polarizer with this lens is to get the pro lens hood, = which=20 >costs about $500 over the price of the (already expensive) 93mm = polarizer. =20 >I wouldn't expect to use the pro lens shade with my other lens (an = 80mm). > >Has anyone out there found a way to use a polarizer with the 40mm, = without the=20 >pro lens shade? Is the Cokin system an option? > >Thanks, > >-Ross > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute = Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing = list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's = subsidiaries, or affiliates. > >To change your subscription status, go to: = http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad >Digest archives are stored at = http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm >Searchable archives can be found at = http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 09:03:43 -0500 From: Austin Franklin To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: RE: KEH Message-ID: <01BF6C93.81B665B0@DRT1> Up until about 6 months ago, I would have said their grading system was perfect, even a bit conservative, but the last few items I received over the last 6 months have been misgraded. One lense, an F 110/2 had to be sent back to Hasselblad to get the dust out of the inside of it. I mean these were boulders, that could be seen from 50 yds...so no excuse for that! Their sales people (especially Mary) are GREAT! She did everything she could to accommodate me, and I can't say enough good things about her. Their return policy is honest. I wouldn't hesitate to buy from them, but don't accept any items that aren't up to snuff, either get a partial refund (which usually isn't much between grades, for some reason), or return the item. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 06:48:34 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Beaubien To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE: KEH Message-ID: <20000201144834.10465.qmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> I'd have to agree with most of the comments here. Especially about their sales people. Mary has been most helpful and right on top of the products pricing and shipping. I would second Austin's comment "I can't say enough good things about her." I've used their pricing as a guide to purchase items on eBay. If I cannot buy something that is priced at KEH for ~$2k on eBay at a reasonable discount. I'll purchase the KEH product. I'm at least geting the 60 day warranty. --Rich Beaubien __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 08:51:24 +0000 From: Jack Casner To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: KEH Message-ID: <38969E8C.3333A09B@earthlink.net> Thanks very much for taking the time to help me. Jack Casner Austin Franklin wrote: > Up until about 6 months ago, I would have said their grading system was > perfect, even a bit conservative, but the last few items I received over > the last 6 months have been misgraded. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 09:18:37 -0800 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Cc: rossw@bert.East.Sun.COM Subject: Re: 40mm CF and polarizer Message-ID: <4.1.20000201090317.048640b0@gateway.photoaccess.com> My 40 CFE has a 93mm drop-in filter retaining ring as well. But the whole filter assembly unscrews and the lens threads are 86mm. I have an 86EW polarizer from B+W that screws right into the lens. The EW series filters from B+W are Extra Wide (EW). The glass is much wider than the mount. They are made for very wide angle lenses. They work. No vignetting. For graduated filters and other square type filters, I use a HiTech wide angle holder and an 86mm mounting ring. The HiTech, like Lee and Calumet, use 4" wide glass or resin filters which work just fine with the 40mm lens. I use a HiTech 67mm mounting ring and the B60 to 67 Hasselblad adapter for B60 lenses. I use a Hasselblad B70 to 77mm adapter and the HiTech 77mm mounting ring for the 50mm Distagon. It all works perfectly. Jim At 10:05 AM 1/31/00 -0500, Ross Warner - Information Products wrote: >I just bought a Zeiss 40mm CF lens, new in the box, at a pretty good >discount vs. a 40mm CFE. I will be using it with a 503CW camera and mostly >color >film. > >I bought this lens for landscape use, and I often use a polarizer for this >application with my 35mm gear. However, the design of the 40mm lens seems >to make using a polarizer difficult. Filters are unthreaded and drop in, >and are held in place by the screw-in lens hood. The dealer told me that the >only way to use a polarizer with this lens is to get the pro lens hood, which >costs about $500 over the price of the (already expensive) 93mm polarizer. >I wouldn't expect to use the pro lens shade with my other lens (an 80mm). > >Has anyone out there found a way to use a polarizer with the 40mm, without the >pro lens shade? Is the Cokin system an option? > >Thanks, > >-Ross > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute >Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list >is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or >affiliates. > >To change your subscription status, go to: >http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad >Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm >Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 20:26:14 -0500 From: Colin Monteith To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: SV: 40mm CF and polarizer Message-ID: <389787B6.155F01EC@sympatico.ca> I have heard that Lee filters will make a special 93 mm Hassy adapter for= their filter system. I have a Lee filter holder which I use and it does = not cause any problems on the widest lenses. The beauty of this systems (= like the Cokin) is that you can use it on multiple formats. At one time I= had from a 4X5 with 47mm lens, Rollei MF and Nikon all with the same Lee= filter system, www.leefilters.com ULF SJ=D6GREN wrote: > Hi Ross > I can't answar the entire set of questions but I can tell you that the = Coquin system is of little help for you. I have it and like it and use it= but not for any focal length less than 50 mm. It is not usable for my SW= C due to vignetting and the diff. 38 - 40 mm I don't think will help you = get rid of that problem. Still I am able to use the other Coqin filters w= ith that special camera if I hold them in place with my hand....... Maybe= it doesn't look so "professional" as having everything attached to the c= amera, on the other hand that can't be seen on the final picture (if you = are careful.....;) ). And in my opinion that is what counts. For the 50 = mm lens I have a 63mm (I think it is) Hoya -yes it is an older lens- and = that works good. > Of course there is a solotution for this and it can't possiply be the p= ro lens shade that is a really good thing per se but using it with a 40 m= m lens is ....... nearly ......... no idea (to express it as p=F6litely a= s possible). > Ulf Sj=F6gren > Sweden > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Fr=E5n: Ross Warner - Information Products > Till: hasselblad@kelvin.net > Kopia: rossw@bert.East.Sun.COM > Datum: den 1 februari 2000 11:44 > =C4mne: 40mm CF and polarizer > > >I just bought a Zeiss 40mm CF lens, new in the box, at a pretty good > >discount vs. a 40mm CFE. I will be using it with a 503CW camera and mo= stly color > >film. > > > >I bought this lens for landscape use, and I often use a polarizer for = this > >application with my 35mm gear. However, the design of the 40mm lens se= ems > >to make using a polarizer difficult. Filters are unthreaded and drop i= n, > >and are held in place by the screw-in lens hood. The dealer told me th= at the > >only way to use a polarizer with this lens is to get the pro lens hood= , which > >costs about $500 over the price of the (already expensive) 93mm polari= zer. > >I wouldn't expect to use the pro lens shade with my other lens (an 80m= m). > > > >Has anyone out there found a way to use a polarizer with the 40mm, wit= hout the > >pro lens shade? Is the Cokin system an option? > > > >Thanks, > > > >-Ross > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > >The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute In= ternet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing lis= t is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, o= r affiliates. > > > >To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/gues= t/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > >Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.h= tm > >Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/inde= x.html > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Int= ernet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list= is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or= affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest= /RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.ht= m > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index= =2Ehtml ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:58:14 EST From: InfinityDT@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: SV: 40mm CF and polarizer Message-ID: <3c.fa397c.25c8e936@aol.com> Is the "93mm" on the 40 CF the filter diameter or the retaining-ring size? (For example the 50 C lenses take "63mm" filters but you can screw a standard 67mm filter directly into the threads in place of the retaining ring). If the 40CF threads are some standard size like perhaps 95mm then polarizers are available. In any case I can't see why someone couldn't fashion a stepping adaptor so that a 95mm polarizer could be used. Worst-case scenario, use the 93 adaptor for one of the proshades and epoxy a 95 polarizer into it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 18:26:08 -0800 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: 40mm CF and filters Message-ID: <4.1.20000201181653.01705830@gateway.photoaccess.com> It is very easy to use filters (polarizer, color, grad, whatever) with the 40 CF and CFE lenses. The 40 CFE (same as the 40 CF) has a 93mm drop-in filter retaining ring. But the "whole filter assembly unscrews" and the lens threads are "86mm." I have an 86EW polarizer from B+W that screws right into the lens. The EW series filters from B+W are Extra Wide (EW). The glass is much wider than the mount. They are made for very wide angle lenses. They work. No vignetting. They come in all colors and types of glass. I have several different 86EW filters for my 40mm lens. Polarizer, KR3, KR6, 4x ND, Yellow/Green... For graduated filters and other square type filters, I use a HiTech "wide angle holder" and an 86mm HiTech mounting ring. The HiTech, like Lee and Calumet, use 4" wide glass or resin filters which work just fine with the 40mm lens. I use a HiTech 67mm mounting ring and the B60 to 67 Hasselblad adapter for B60 lenses. I use a Hasselblad B70 to 77mm adapter and the HiTech 77mm mounting ring for the 50mm Distagon. This is not rocket science. It all works perfectly. Jim ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #783 ************************* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. 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