hasselblad Sat, 19 Aug 2000 Volume 1 : Number 962 In this issue: RE: Quality Zeiss Biogon 38 vs Rodenstock Apo-Grandagon 35(ArcBod y) Re: RE: SWC on moon missions? RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? Re: SV: 903swc vs 40mm. RE: SV: 903swc vs 40mm. RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? Re: RE: SWC on moon missions? Re: Hasselblad Lens Tilt Re: hassy 203fe question RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? 180mm f/4 CF T* Re: RE: SWC on moon missions? Re: SWC on moon missions? Not Re: SWC on moon missions? Not RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? Re: 180mm f/4 CF T* RE: 180mm f/4 CF T* Digital x-pan coming? RE: Digital x-pan coming? RE: hassy 203fe question Re: SWC on moon missions? Not Re: RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? RE: hassy 203fe question Re: 180mm f/4 CF T* RE: hassy 203fe question RE: hassy 203fe question ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 06:29:14 -0500 From: "WILLIAMS, DAVID R. (JSC-DB)" To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: RE: Quality Zeiss Biogon 38 vs Rodenstock Apo-Grandagon 35(ArcBod y) Message-ID: <41D2696EE385D0118DE90020AFFC1E5C063FD618@JSC-EMS-MBS09.jsc.nasa.gov> Ian, are you saying that the lens/system on the 35-ARC has equel sharpness in the corners, equel contrast and depth of field (without using the tilt fuction on the ARC)compared to the 903SWC(or even your older model 903) ?? -----Original Message----- From: Ian Goodrick [mailto:goodrick@appleonline.net] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 11:09 AM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Quality Zeiss Biogon 38 vs Rodenstock Apo-Grandagon 35(ArcBody) on 17/8/00 1:31 pm, Marc Smith at marcp_id77@yahoo.com wrote: > Hi, > > Do you have experience with both and can compare the > lens quality? > > Marc > > Firstly I think a direct comparison between the two lenses is slightly unfair, mainly because the 38mm Biogon is fixed and only convers 6x6 format with almost no movement even if the camera would alow it. The 35mm Apo-Grandagon covers the format and gives more than 20-25mm of usable movement, That beeing said I feel the 35mm Apo-Grandagon can gives results as good as the results from my 25 year old SWC. The anly area where I feel the 35mm Apo is not up to the SWC in the amount of flare from lights just outside of the film area. You need to be much more careful with the 35mm Apo. Befor I got the Arc Camera, I used the SWC for about 60% of my work. Since I got the 35mm Apo, I now use the SWC only about 10% of the time. The majority of my work is in construction and architectural photography, and I like to travel light. I now no longer travel with a 5"x4" camera permanently with me. Most clients are happy for me to use the Arc instead of 5"x4". There are still some that want 5"x4" but I am working on them. To sum up the 35mm Apo is now the most used lens in my camera bag, and if someone asked me to chose between the 35mm Apo and the SWC I would go for the 35mm Apo. -- Ian Goodrick goodrick@appleonline.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:36:58 EDT From: QWhoZeiss@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: RE: SWC on moon missions? Message-ID: <54.83ba8e4.26ce95fa@aol.com> >From the official Apollo 12 & 13 mission reports--No SWC Hasselblad were on board. This report can be gotten from NASA. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:43:33 -0500 From: "WILLIAMS, DAVID R. (JSC-DB)" To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? Message-ID: <41D2696EE385D0118DE90020AFFC1E5C063FD61A@JSC-EMS-MBS09.jsc.nasa.gov> I personally used the 903SWC on the moon on two differ'nt missions and I did'nt have any gravity problems with it at all ;o) -----Original Message----- From: QWhoZeiss@aol.com [mailto:QWhoZeiss@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 8:37 AM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: RE: SWC on moon missions? >From the official Apollo 12 & 13 mission reports--No SWC Hasselblad were on board. This report can be gotten from NASA. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:38:45 -0400 From: Marcober To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: SV: 903swc vs 40mm. Message-ID: <399D3C65.C5D0A25B@gate.net> By the way...can the 903swc be conveniently used hand-held? What about the bubble level when one uses the camera w/o a tripod? Is this piece of equipment intended to be used on support? Thanks M.B. DavidG6028@aol.com wrote: > re: > This is a strong pull for a 40 CFE > > over a 903" What you write is correct per se but what is it you can't do > with the 903 stepped down? > > .. I think the only point was that since the 203FE has TTL metering, it's nice that the 40cfe lets you USE it for autoexposure. It depends on how you use the camera, and what kind of photography you enjoy. If a person has a 500-series camera, obviously the "databus" feature means nothing at all (except possible use on a future 200-series body!). > > -David G. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:50:17 -0400 From: Austin Franklin To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: RE: SV: 903swc vs 40mm. Message-ID: <01C008F9.F2460D50@user-2ive1b9.dialup.mindspring.com> That's all I do is hand held with it, and the bubble level works just fine. You can see it at the same time as you are looking through the viewfinder...a really brilliant setup! That would be one issue with the 40...unless you brought along a separate bubble level...but you couldn't see it in the viewfinder. ---------- By the way...can the 903swc be conveniently used hand-held? What about the bubble level when one uses the camera w/o a tripod? Is this piece of equipment intended to be used on support? Thanks M.B. DavidG6028@aol.com wrote: > re: > This is a strong pull for a 40 CFE > > over a 903" What you write is correct per se but what is it you can't do > with the 903 stepped down? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:57:14 -0400 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: Subject: RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? Message-ID: <000a01c0091c$37110350$0100a8c0@paolopent> The problems of a Hasselblad on the moon are of little gravity. Paolo Paolo Pignatelli -----Original Message----- From: WILLIAMS, DAVID R. (JSC-DB) [mailto:david.r.williams2@jsc.nasa.gov] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 9:44 AM To: 'hasselblad@kelvin.net' Subject: RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? I personally used the 903SWC on the moon on two differ'nt missions and I did'nt have any gravity problems with it at all ;o) -----Original Message----- From: QWhoZeiss@aol.com [mailto:QWhoZeiss@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 8:37 AM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: RE: SWC on moon missions? >From the official Apollo 12 & 13 mission reports--No SWC Hasselblad were on board. This report can be gotten from NASA. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:27:11 -0400 From: "LEO WOLK" To: , Subject: Re: RE: SWC on moon missions? Message-ID: <01c00920$65851d80$5e44570c@fofyplfq> Your comments add considerable weight to this topic. I almost fell for it! Leo. -----Original Message----- From: Paolo Pignatelli To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Date: Friday, August 18, 2000 9:57 AM Subject: RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? >The problems of a Hasselblad on the moon are of little gravity. > >Paolo > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:28:51 -0400 From: "LEO WOLK" To: Subject: Re: Hasselblad Lens Tilt Message-ID: <01c00920$a187aa00$5e44570c@fofyplfq> What about the 1.4x Shift-Mutar? -----Original Message----- From: Frank Filippone To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Date: Friday, August 18, 2000 12:45 AM Subject: Hasselblad Lens Tilt >Is there any other solution to the tilt on a 500C other than the Flexbody or >the Zorkendorfer? > >Frank Filippone >red735i@earthlink.net > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:37:17 -0400 From: kswong@sp.ml.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: hassy 203fe question Message-ID: <200008181437.KAA14920@sophie.sp.ml.com> <> I brought myself a 205, 1 E-back and 4 F lenses and found it to have good exposures on all lens (using slides). I even shot the 250mm at dusk and it came out very nice. Also, check your settings as to which mode you start shooting at. Also, check the way you load your film ... first time (for me) I screw up and had ripped the film and some exposures were not great. KS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:02:32 -0400 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: "'LEO WOLK'" , Subject: RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? Message-ID: <000b01c00925$56364110$0100a8c0@paolopent> I have an attraction for this sort of thing, it is not something for the masses. Paolo Paolo Pignatelli -----Original Message----- From: LEO WOLK [mailto:bigleo@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 10:27 AM To: paolop@snet.net; hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: RE: SWC on moon missions? Your comments add considerable weight to this topic. I almost fell for it! Leo. -----Original Message----- From: Paolo Pignatelli To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Date: Friday, August 18, 2000 9:57 AM Subject: RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? >The problems of a Hasselblad on the moon are of little gravity. > >Paolo > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:25:29 +0100 From: "Simon Lamb" To: Subject: 180mm f/4 CF T* Message-ID: <017901c00928$8b958e30$650a0a0a@slamb> I have the opporutnity to purchase an absolutely unmarked 180mm f/4 CF T*. Although I have read good things about this lens, does anyone have any real world experience of working with it. I am intending it to be my main portrait lens for head shots. Thanks. Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: "'LEO WOLK'" ; Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 4:02 PM Subject: RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? > I have an attraction for this sort of thing, it is not something for the > masses. > > Paolo > > Paolo Pignatelli > > > -----Original Message----- > From: LEO WOLK [mailto:bigleo@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 10:27 AM > To: paolop@snet.net; hasselblad@kelvin.net > Subject: Re: RE: SWC on moon missions? > > > Your comments add considerable weight to this topic. I almost fell for it! > > Leo. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paolo Pignatelli > To: hasselblad@kelvin.net > Date: Friday, August 18, 2000 9:57 AM > Subject: RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? > > > >The problems of a Hasselblad on the moon are of little gravity. > > > >Paolo > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute > Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list > is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or > affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: > http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:22:43 -0400 From: "LEO WOLK" To: , Subject: Re: RE: SWC on moon missions? Message-ID: <01c00930$899075c0$0845570c@fofyplfq> Yes, I'm drawn to this also. Could you help me find some accessories for my drill? I need a chuck or bit. Leo. -----Original Message----- From: Paolo Pignatelli To: 'LEO WOLK' ; hasselblad@kelvin.net Date: Friday, August 18, 2000 11:02 AM Subject: RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? >I have an attraction for this sort of thing, it is not something for the >masses. > >Paolo > > >-----Original Message----- >From: LEO WOLK [mailto:bigleo@worldnet.att.net] >Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 10:27 AM >To: paolop@snet.net; hasselblad@kelvin.net >Subject: Re: RE: SWC on moon missions? > > >Your comments add considerable weight to this topic. I almost fell for it! > >Leo. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Paolo Pignatelli >To: hasselblad@kelvin.net >Date: Friday, August 18, 2000 9:57 AM >Subject: RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? > > >>The problems of a Hasselblad on the moon are of little gravity. >> >>Paolo >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:25:57 -0600 From: Reg Riemer To: Subject: Re: SWC on moon missions? Not Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3049439158_24956435_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi guys. This is the correct answer, the SWC was only used in Earth orbit. They did make some SWC Moon cameras but they were not used in flight. Best regards. Reg \ RCTS Riemer Consulting Technical Services 20 Hyler Place S.W. Calgary, Alberta. Canada. T2V-3G6 Technology Is The Only Substitute For Cubic Inches Information provided is given free of charge in good faith without prejudice Office# 1-403-259-3106 - Cell#1-403-620-5969 - Fax#1-403-253-6004 GST # (892888090RT) One Lap of America picture site up at http://www.supras.com/~riemer/onelap2000/ / From: Austin Franklin Reply-To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:38:27 -0400 To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: SWC on moon missions? Check this out: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=406238280 >From what I read in "The Hasselblad Compendium", an SWC went in space on Gemini 10 (not a Moon mission)...and was lost ;-), and on the first Apollo flight (again, not a Moon mission). Hasselblad did make 10 SWC to be used as an alternative to the EL on the Moon, but they weren't....so from what I can tell, no SWCs were ever on the Moon... Anyone have information to the contrary? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. 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From: Austin Franklin <austin@darkroom.com>
Reply-To: hasselblad@kelvin.net
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:38:27 -0400
To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" <hasselblad@kelvin.net>= ;
Subject: SWC on moon missions?

Check this out:

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flight (again, not a Moon mission).  Hasselblad did make 10 SWC to be = used
as an alternative to the EL on the Moon, but they weren't....so from what I=
can tell, no SWCs were ever on the Moon...

Anyone have information to the contrary?

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--MS_Mac_OE_3049439158_24956435_MIME_Part-- ------------------------------ Date: 18 Aug 2000 17:32:27 -0000 From: "Roger Urban" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: SWC on moon missions? Not Message-ID: <20000818173227.8693.qmail@viebrock.chek.com> I saw a picture in a Hasselblad brochure of a black 903SWC with a motor drive on it. On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:25:57 -0600 Reg Riemer wrote: >Hi guys. This is the correct answer, the SWC was only used in Earth orbit. >They did make some SWC Moon cameras but they were not used in flight. > >Best regards. > >Reg > > >\ >RCTS >Riemer Consulting Technical Services >20 Hyler Place S.W. Calgary, Alberta. Canada. T2V-3G6 >Technology Is The Only Substitute For Cubic Inches >Information provided is given free of charge in good faith without prejudice >Office# 1-403-259-3106 - Cell#1-403-620-5969 - Fax#1-403-253-6004 >GST # (892888090RT) >One Lap of America picture site up at >http://www.supras.com/~riemer/onelap2000/ >/ > >From: Austin Franklin >Reply-To: hasselblad@kelvin.net >Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:38:27 -0400 >To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" >Subject: SWC on moon missions? > >Check this out: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=406238280 > >From what I read in "The Hasselblad Compendium", an SWC went in space on >Gemini 10 (not a Moon mission)...and was lost ;-), and on the first Apollo >flight (again, not a Moon mission). Hasselblad did make 10 SWC to be used >as an alternative to the EL on the Moon, but they weren't....so from what I >can tell, no SWCs were ever on the Moon... > >Anyone have information to the contrary? > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute >Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list >is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or >affiliates. > >To change your subscription status, go to: >http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad >Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm >Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > > > hey. sign up for a free bigdeal email account (yourname@bigdeal.com). you get updates on specials, promos, news and other junk- you can sign up at http://www.bigdeal.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:49:24 -0400 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: "'LEO WOLK'" , Subject: RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? Message-ID: <001001c0093c$a639fdc0$0100a8c0@paolopent> There are tons of bits on the internet! Paolo Paolo Pignatelli -----Original Message----- From: LEO WOLK [mailto:bigleo@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 12:23 PM To: paolop@snet.net; hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: RE: SWC on moon missions? Yes, I'm drawn to this also. Could you help me find some accessories for my drill? I need a chuck or bit. Leo. -----Original Message----- From: Paolo Pignatelli To: 'LEO WOLK' ; hasselblad@kelvin.net Date: Friday, August 18, 2000 11:02 AM Subject: RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? >I have an attraction for this sort of thing, it is not something for the >masses. > >Paolo > > >-----Original Message----- >From: LEO WOLK [mailto:bigleo@worldnet.att.net] >Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 10:27 AM >To: paolop@snet.net; hasselblad@kelvin.net >Subject: Re: RE: SWC on moon missions? > > >Your comments add considerable weight to this topic. I almost fell for it! > >Leo. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Paolo Pignatelli >To: hasselblad@kelvin.net >Date: Friday, August 18, 2000 9:57 AM >Subject: RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? > > >>The problems of a Hasselblad on the moon are of little gravity. >> >>Paolo >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:02:30 -0700 From: Mark Rabiner To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: 180mm f/4 CF T* Message-ID: <399D9655.FFB23068@rabiner.cncoffice.com> Simon Lamb wrote: > > I have the opporutnity to purchase an absolutely unmarked 180mm f/4 CF T*. > Although I have read good things about this lens, does anyone have any real > world experience of working with it. I am intending it to be my main > portrait lens for head shots. > > Thanks. > > Simon > > I'm envious! How can you go wrong? Someday my old 150 will magically divide and become a 180 and 120! Then I'll REALLY be set up on this Hasselblad thing! Mark William Rabiner :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:40:16 -0700 From: David Keith To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: RE: 180mm f/4 CF T* Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Lamb [mailto:simon@sclamb.com] > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 8:25 AM > To: hasselblad@kelvin.net > Subject: 180mm f/4 CF T* > > > I have the opporutnity to purchase an absolutely unmarked > 180mm f/4 CF T*. > Although I have read good things about this lens, does anyone > have any real > world experience of working with it. I am intending it to be my main > portrait lens for head shots. > > Thanks. > > Simon I use this lens regularly for everything from landscape to close-up. I love it. It is absolutely sharp. I don't do many portraits, but I suspect it's only drawback there might be that same sharpness. Sometimes a softer portrayal might be nice. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:32:24 -0500 From: "Murray E. Milligan" To: Hasselblad Subject: Digital x-pan coming? Message-ID: With the flourish of digital cameras on the market now, what do you think of an X-pan sized camera, Hassie glass, but in a 3 megapixel digital camera? Murray E. Milligan, Winnipeg, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:49:40 -0400 From: Austin Franklin To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: RE: Digital x-pan coming? Message-ID: <01C0093C.B4312020@user-2ive1b9.dialup.mindspring.com> A waste. 3M pixels is not near sufficient, especially for the X-Pan, which is wider than a regular 35mm negative, to 'need' any lense offered by Hasselblad. You would be better off with a $25 (all right, may be $35) lense made specifically for that purpose. If you want the tutorial on why, I can tell you, or you can ask the esteemed Jim Brick, who knows quite a bit about this subject, hopefully he will 'pipe in'. ---------- > With the flourish of digital cameras on the market now, what do you think of > an X-pan sized camera, Hassie glass, but in a 3 megapixel digital camera? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:07:07 -0500 From: "Tom Miller" To: Subject: RE: hassy 203fe question Message-ID: KS. Thanks for your message. I have no problem loading film. I do have 6 or 7 other bodies and about 10 backs. Do you set the film at 1/3 of a stop more to compensate for neg film over slide. By the way.. .one mistake. I have fe lenses. 110 fe 2.0 and 60-120 zoom. Thanks tom http://www.tommillerphotography.com/ Tom Miller Tom Miller Photography 3848 N. 9th Abilene, TX 79603 915-675-0935 http://members.aol.com/tdmill/pubpage.htm -----Original Message----- From: kswong@sp.ml.com [mailto:kswong@sp.ml.com] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 9:37 AM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: hassy 203fe question <> I brought myself a 205, 1 E-back and 4 F lenses and found it to have good exposures on all lens (using slides). I even shot the 250mm at dusk and it came out very nice. Also, check your settings as to which mode you start shooting at. Also, check the way you load your film ... first time (for me) I screw up and had ripped the film and some exposures were not great. KS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 01:40:22 +0200 From: "Q.G. de Bakker" To: Subject: Re: SWC on moon missions? Not Message-ID: <002601c0096d$c2766c40$0de1f1c3@qnu99> Roger Urban wrote: > I saw a picture in a Hasselblad brochure of a black 903SWC with a motor drive on it. Motorized SWCs feature in the Hasselblad catalogue for some time now. The space SWCs were not motorized. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 21:11:47 EDT From: QWhoZeiss@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: RE: RE: SWC on moon missions? Message-ID: <7b.88040a1.26cf38d3@aol.com> My only answere was about Aplool 12&13 Information from the loading log. No SWC.. If we want to talk about other missions , I've got the equipment log. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:03:45 -0400 From: kswong@sp.ml.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE: hassy 203fe question Message-ID: <200008190303.XAA26858@sophie.sp.ml.com> Tom wrote: <> No, I do not compensate for the 1/3 stop more which I set it exactly as the film speed. I have FE lens 50, 150 and 350 and 1.4 mutar. The only CFE is the 80. I used Fuji Velvia ISO 50. I used the same film on my Mamiya 645 shooting on same subjects against the Hassy system. The result is Hassy better than Mamiya BUT there is only one big difference in output with the 50mm. Hassy tends to show tall buildings slanted via Mamiya on 645 does not. Both shooting under same lighting conditions and distance using the same tripod. I had to be careful about the 50 lens as group pictures are fine but not with buildings. KS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:18:54 -0400 From: Carl Socolow To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: 180mm f/4 CF T* Message-ID: <399DFC9E.8DF573B6@mindspring.com> Simon Lamb wrote: > > I have the opporutnity to purchase an absolutely unmarked 180mm f/4 CF T*. > Although I have read good things about this lens, does anyone have any real > world experience of working with it. I am intending it to be my main > portrait lens for head shots. > > Thanks. > > Simon I find it to be an incredibly sharp lens. I traded up from my 150. I like the lens' flattening effect for portraiture. I tend to use it with just a little diffusion so my subjects don't have to look at each and every pore on their photos. Carl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:33:57 -0700 From: "Peter Klosky" To: , Subject: RE: hassy 203fe question Message-ID: KS, I didn't know the mamiya 645 had a 50mm. I thought there line had a 45mm = (really fuzzy) and a 55 (pretty good.) But then again, I'm always = learning. Myself, I've done okay with my 50mm, but I always try to get a = high vantage point and level the camera, even if it means loosing a lot of = the frame to foreground. Peter >>> kswong@sp.ml.com 08/18/00 11:03PM >>> Tom wrote: <> No, I do not compensate for the 1/3 stop more which I set it exactly as = the film speed. I have FE lens 50, 150 and 350 and 1.4 mutar. The only CFE = is the 80. I used Fuji Velvia ISO 50. I used the same film on my Mamiya 645 shooting on same subjects against the Hassy system. The result is Hassy better than Mamiya BUT there is only one big difference in output with the 50mm. Hassy tends to show tall buildings slanted via Mamiya on 645 does not. Both shooting under same lighting conditions and distance using the same tripod. I had to be careful about the 50 lens as group pictures are fine but not with buildings. KS ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:59:43 -0400 From: "Bruce Wilson" To: Subject: RE: hassy 203fe question Message-ID: Tom, I did have a problem with the 110FE lens. They seem to be susceptible to vibration causing the diaphragm's mechanical linkage to unhook inside the lens. After repair, it now matches the other Hassy lenses in exposure tests. I don't have any experience with the 60-120 zoom (but hear it's great!). The meter seems to be very accurate but it is basically just a cleverly weighted averaging meter. It is VERY accurate so long as the reading is taken from a suitable portion of the scene. The fact that the automatic exposure control is precise to 1/12 stop is meaningless if its accuracy is fooled by the content of the scene (like too much sky). My 203FE and normal lens agree with a Minolta IVF with 40 degree reflected light adapter. Nevertheless, I usually don't use reflected light readings with wide angle lenses but take ambient readings if possible for accuracy with slide film (negative film couldn't care less which method we use so long as don't underexpose). For longer lenses (like a 150 or 250), I compare the in-camera reflected light reading to the ambient and usually defer to the camera reading, especially if a flash is mounted (TTL at -1). Velvia slide film is best at the rated ISO 50 for me. For negative film, I often set the 203FE meter as if the film is 1/3-2/3 stop lower in ISO rating. Or, leave the meter at the film's normal rating and increase the exposure a bit by locking on to a shadow detail with a quick motion, which is just a faster way of down-rating the film or avoiding the influence of a specular highlight in the background. Usually no need to take ambient light readings. It's just a matter of judgement according to the light -- not a uniquely Hasselblad thing, as far as I know. The 203FE OTF/TTL flash metering works great for me with the Metz 45CL4 or MZ3i, the only flashes I have used with it. This old SCA300 coupling is primitive compared to SCA3000 or a Japanese E-TTL but the exposure is very accurate if you're careful with subject placement. It is calibrated for slide film like all the other Hassy OTF/TTL bodies. From the Hasselblad web site: "For all practical purposes, transparency films all reflect the same amount of light. Since these films are more sensitive to over and under exposures, the OTF system has been optimized for slide film. Black-and-white, color negative and Polaroid® films reflect somewhat more light and can amount to 1/2-2/3 f/stop underexposure. For this reason Hasselblad recommends that photographers make their own tests. Differences can be corrected via the camera's ISO dial, which is notched in 1/3 stop increments. Once a satisfactory film speed is determined tests need not be repeated for that film." Good luck with your new 203FE!! Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Tom Miller [mailto:tdmill@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 6:07 PM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE: hassy 203fe question KS. Thanks for your message. I have no problem loading film. I do have 6 or 7 other bodies and about 10 backs. Do you set the film at 1/3 of a stop more to compensate for neg film over slide. By the way.. .one mistake. I have fe lenses. 110 fe 2.0 and 60-120 zoom. Thanks tom http://www.tommillerphotography.com/ Tom Miller Tom Miller Photography 3848 N. 9th Abilene, TX 79603 915-675-0935 http://members.aol.com/tdmill/pubpage.htm -----Original Message----- From: kswong@sp.ml.com [mailto:kswong@sp.ml.com] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 9:37 AM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: hassy 203fe question <> I brought myself a 205, 1 E-back and 4 F lenses and found it to have good exposures on all lens (using slides). I even shot the 250mm at dusk and it came out very nice. Also, check your settings as to which mode you start shooting at. Also, check the way you load your film ... first time (for me) I screw up and had ripped the film and some exposures were not great. KS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. 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