hasselblad Sat, 26 Aug 2000 Volume 1 : Number 969 In this issue: CB vs. CFx and others CB vs. CFx and others Re: Good travel bag Re: Good travel bag Re: Good travel bag CF 50 f/4 for sale SV: Good travel bag Re: CB vs. CFx and others Re: Good travel bag Re: Good travel bag RE: Good travel bag RE: Good travel bag polaroid back Re: polaroid back ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 07:40:12 GMT From: "Logan Reinwood" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: CB vs. CFx and others Message-ID: Hi there, ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 07:52:09 GMT From: "Logan Reinwood" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: CB vs. CFx and others Message-ID: Hi there I am new to the list and I'm thinking in getting into the MF:-) I am a leica M user and EOS user (for tele-lenses). I would like to complement my 35mm system with MF (I do not do studio). What is the Optical difference between a CB and CFx lense, if I got it right there is no difference. One of my worry with the Hassy is the SLR system, (the mirror vibrations). What are the opinion on that from the fellow users? I heard that the mirror system has much evolved from the e.g., 500c to the 500cm (less vibrations)? On a first estimate, what is the percentage of handheld pictures taken with a Hassy, is a tripod mandatory? Thanks in advance for you time and answer, cheers, Xavier ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:02:21 +0100 From: "Alison Napier" To: Subject: Re: Good travel bag Message-ID: <004001c00e73$8de69260$6914edc1@garfield> InfinityDT wrote: > Two problems with photo backpacks: > 1. (Fact) You have to take them off each time to get at what's inside. True... which is why I only use mine when travelling, or shooting out on the moor when I know I'll be doing a lot of walking. > 2. (My wife's opinion) "They look ridiculous on a dignified middle-aged man > dressed conservatively in the big city." Not a problem for me... I'm neither a man, nor do I look dignified. ; ) Ever tried to look dignified when you're crawling on your belly to get a close-up shot of a beach rock?! > I don't envy anyone carrying a 445 Billingham full of Hasselblad gear. I > have a Billingham 225, it's awfully heavy for its size (probably because its > so well made. There is also a much lighter version available made from Nytex. Alison ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:53:44 +0100 From: "Alison Napier" To: Subject: Re: Good travel bag Message-ID: <003f01c00e73$8d58aa40$6914edc1@garfield> Simon Lamb wrote: > I'll check out the Billingham, there is a dealer round the corner here. > Only problem with Billinghams is that they shout "expensive camera inside!". I've heard it said before, but I do wonder if that's really true for anyone other than a photographer. I bought a black one, hoping it wasn't quite as easily recognizable, but I've yet to meet anyone who knows that 'Billingham' means 'camera bag' before seeing what's inside anyway. Of course, maybe camera thieves specialize in knowing what good camera bags look like... Alison ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:35:06 EDT From: InfinityDT@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Good travel bag Message-ID: In a message dated 8/25/00 5:07:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, alison@airpen.demon.co.uk writes: << Of course, maybe camera thieves specialize in knowing what good camera bags look like... >> Most thieves really want cash, jewelry, passports etc. and even a nondescript bag is a risk for the traveller since the presumption is that it may contain one or more of the above. The fact is, if you take simple precautions (my shoulder bags also have waist belts and I don't wear my cameras off one shoulder like a cool photojournalist, but rather around my neck like a geeky tourist, and I take my bag with me everywhere and if I take it off in a restaurant I snap the belt and strap around a chair or my own ankle) you will probably be passed over for an easier mark. The exception is strong-arm or armed robbery, which is unlikely unless you're in specific areas and you're either there in spite of being cognizant of the risk, or else you didn't do your homework. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 07:45:00 -0700 From: "John McLeod" To: "Hasselblad posts" Subject: CF 50 f/4 for sale Message-ID: <000d01c00ea3$0c9c4580$2304480c@ukj3r> Hasselblad CF 50mm f/4 lens for sale (serial number 704xxxx). I purchased this (non-FLE) lens new years ago, but it has seen little use since I am not a professional photographer. I have been very happy with the lens, it's quite sharp, and the condition is mint-. The only reason for the sale is to raise money for a non-photographic purchase. I also have a Hasselblad UV Sky filter and 50mm lens shade which I'd prefer to sell with the lens. The price for the package is firm at $1,700 (or $1,575 for the lens only). I live in the San Francisco Bay Area and would prefer a local sale, but will consider other offers, and will split shipping within the U.S. John McLeod ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 17:41:41 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?ULF_SJ=D6GREN?= To: Subject: SV: Good travel bag Message-ID: <001301c00eaa$f7c0a2c0$fc8f97d4@s101194> ----- Ursprungligt meddelande -----=20 Fr=E5n: Till: Skickat: den 25 augusti 2000 15:35 =C4mne: Re: Good travel bag Having spent most of yesterday and today, not to mention the night = inbetween, thinking of this problem I think it is time to go back to = basics. My ultimate humble opinion is that the first letter was = regarding a trip to Europe (wellcome!) and what kind of bag you could = need for that. I don't say but we have thiefs here too, but the risk is = very small if you stay out of obscure places, never leave the equipment = in your hotel rom or forget it on the beach or in a bar. So Simon, where = in Europe are you going? If you plan to come up here in the wilderness = in nothern Europe for nature photography you can have the equipment = outside the tent. If you go to the big cities in any part, look out a = bit more. Take the bag you find comfortable. And again: wellcome! Ulf Sweden ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 08:56:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chris J. DiBona" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: CB vs. CFx and others Message-ID: Hi Zavier...see below, please. -- > One of my worry with the Hassy is the SLR system, > (the mirror vibrations). > What are the opinion on that from the fellow users? > I heard that the mirror system has much evolved from the e.g., > 500c to the 500cm (less vibrations)? > > On a first estimate, what is the percentage of handheld pictures taken with > a Hassy, is a tripod mandatory? > A tripod is not necessary if you can keep your frame speed to faster than 1/125 or so , I've had good luck down to 1/60 on photos I wasn't looking to blow up, but for a razor sharp photo, or one that has a slow speed, you'll want a tripod, just like with your leica. And the difference due to negative size, wow.... Also, if you want the "perfect" shot, if you define perfect as minimizing vibration sduring the shot, I think all (I only haveo one, but it's not too much of a reach) of the current hasselblads have a prerelease that lifts the mirror, open the back curtain and set teh f-stop and closes the shutter in preperation for a shot, then all you do it hit the relelase and it opens and closes the shutter itself for a minimum of vibrations within the camera. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 17:57:05 +0100 From: "Simon Lamb" To: Subject: Re: Good travel bag Message-ID: <006301c00eb5$832a70c0$1a0a0a0a@slamb> Ulf I am from the UK and will be travelling to Florence, Rome, Paris, Vienna and the Black Forest, plus some places en route (sadly not Sweden). I intend to do as much walking around the cities as possible, so comfort, ease of use and security are the prime factors. I looked at the Lowepro Mini Trekker and that seems to be comfortable and secure, but the compromise is having to remove it to use the equipment. I will look at the Domke and the other suggestion of using an ordinary bag with cell foam inserts put into it (perhaps the diaper bag idea also). Simon ULF SJÖGREN wrote > ----- Ursprungligt meddelande ----- > Från: > Till: > Skickat: den 25 augusti 2000 15:35 > Ämne: Re: Good travel bag > > > Having spent most of yesterday and today, not to mention the night inbetween, thinking of this problem I think it is time to go back to basics. My ultimate humble opinion is that the first letter was regarding a trip to Europe (wellcome!) and what kind of bag you could need for that. I don't say but we have thiefs here too, but the risk is very small if you stay out of obscure places, never leave the equipment in your hotel rom or forget it on the beach or in a bar. So Simon, where in Europe are you going? If you plan to come up here in the wilderness in nothern Europe for nature photography you can have the equipment outside the tent. If you go to the big cities in any part, look out a bit more. Take the bag you find comfortable. > And again: wellcome! > Ulf > Sweden > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 13:39:15 EDT From: InfinityDT@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Good travel bag Message-ID: <33.9616961.26d80943@aol.com> In a message dated 8/25/00 12:58:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, simon@sclamb.com writes: << I will look at the Domke and the other suggestion of using an ordinary bag with cell foam inserts put into it (perhaps the diaper bag idea also). Simon >> Domke bags are great (I suppose) for press pros working fast and furiously (and from what I've seen, beating the heck out of their gear) but in my opinion they're the worst possible bag for travel. Their padding is minimal and except for the F5XB Belt and Shoulder Bag (which is *perfect* for a Leica M kit) they do not have zip closure tops, just flaps secured by straps with clips. It would be a simple matter for a pickpocket to slip his/her hand into the bag and remove contents while you're carrying it. One of the *greatest* travel bags ever is/was the Galen Rowell Modular Waist Pack which has a waistbelt worthy of an expedition backpack and a quick-adjust shoulder strap which, when worn cross-style and cinched up, it doesn't bounce like other fannypacks. Loosen the strap and swing the bag around for use, swing it to your back and pull the strap tight to walk. Just that simple, just that good. The bad news: they've been discontinued by Photoflex (I bought a spare one to stash away!). The good news: Rowell has evidently bought the remainder and is selling them through his website. www.mountainlight.com/new.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 13:46:47 -0400 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: Subject: RE: Good travel bag Message-ID: <000901c00ebc$718bc600$0100a8c0@paolopent> I know Italy a bit. In Florence, you should be okay if you keep your bag with you at all times, and all parts of Florence are pretty safe. Rome is= a bit more difficult to judge, and there are parts of Rome where it may be inadvisable to go at nighttime with a (big) camera bag. Beware of Gypsie= s, and keep your bag latched when you carry it. Italy has some of the most beautiful scenery you can behold, but it pays = to be cautious. If you go farther south, Naples, for example, pay close attention to all that is around you, even Italians are quite cautious the= re. Hope I am not offending anyone here, but, "cosi` sono i fatti" -these are the facts... . Paolo Paolo Pignatelli -----Original Message----- From: Simon Lamb [mailto:simon@sclamb.com] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 12:57 PM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Good travel bag Ulf I am from the UK and will be travelling to Florence, Rome, Paris, Vienna = and the Black Forest, plus some places en route (sadly not Sweden). I intend= to do as much walking around the cities as possible, so comfort, ease of use and security are the prime factors. I looked at the Lowepro Mini Trekker and that seems to be comfortable and secure, but the compromise is having= to remove it to use the equipment. I will look at the Domke and the other suggestion of using an ordinary bag with cell foam inserts put into it (perhaps the diaper bag idea also). Simon ULF SJ=D6GREN wrote > ----- Ursprungligt meddelande ----- > Fr=E5n: > Till: > Skickat: den 25 augusti 2000 15:35 > =C4mne: Re: Good travel bag > > > Having spent most of yesterday and today, not to mention the night inbetween, thinking of this problem I think it is time to go back to basi= cs. My ultimate humble opinion is that the first letter was regarding a trip = to Europe (wellcome!) and what kind of bag you could need for that. I don't = say but we have thiefs here too, but the risk is very small if you stay out o= f obscure places, never leave the equipment in your hotel rom or forget it = on the beach or in a bar. So Simon, where in Europe are you going? If you pl= an to come up here in the wilderness in nothern Europe for nature photograph= y you can have the equipment outside the tent. If you go to the big cities = in any part, look out a bit more. Take the bag you find comfortable. > And again: wellcome! > Ulf > Sweden > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing l= ist is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.ht= m > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing l= ist is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.h= tml ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:46:59 -0700 From: Paul Clark To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: RE: Good travel bag Message-ID: <4151A205129ED3119BEF009027D5EBA70B5F96@BDDB2> I use a Tamrac 767 trail backpack. It fits in the overhead bins on airplanes perfectly. I have worn it on hikes of several uphill miles in the Sierra Nevada mountains and found it to be quite comfortable. Best of all, it looks like a regular backpack and has no indications that it contains photo equipment (unless, of course, you hang your tripod of the back using the tripod straps!). -----Original Message----- From: InfinityDT@aol.com [mailto:InfinityDT@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 10:39 AM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Good travel bag In a message dated 8/25/00 12:58:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, simon@sclamb.com writes: << I will look at the Domke and the other suggestion of using an ordinary bag with cell foam inserts put into it (perhaps the diaper bag idea also). Simon >> Domke bags are great (I suppose) for press pros working fast and furiously (and from what I've seen, beating the heck out of their gear) but in my opinion they're the worst possible bag for travel. Their padding is minimal and except for the F5XB Belt and Shoulder Bag (which is *perfect* for a Leica M kit) they do not have zip closure tops, just flaps secured by straps with clips. It would be a simple matter for a pickpocket to slip his/her hand into the bag and remove contents while you're carrying it. One of the *greatest* travel bags ever is/was the Galen Rowell Modular Waist Pack which has a waistbelt worthy of an expedition backpack and a quick-adjust shoulder strap which, when worn cross-style and cinched up, it doesn't bounce like other fannypacks. Loosen the strap and swing the bag around for use, swing it to your back and pull the strap tight to walk. Just that simple, just that good. The bad news: they've been discontinued by Photoflex (I bought a spare one to stash away!). The good news: Rowell has evidently bought the remainder and is selling them through his website. www.mountainlight.com/new.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:17:56 -0300 From: "Eduardo Aigner" To: Subject: polaroid back Message-ID: <000501c005fa$73b860c0$bda8b6c8@EduardoAigner> Does anybody have a Polaroid back for sale?? AIGNER mEU mAIL mUDOU pARA: aigner.ez@terra.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:55:55 -0400 From: Carl Socolow To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: polaroid back Message-ID: <39A6DD5B.40BCF31F@mindspring.com> I don't but I would highly recommend the NPC MF2. It's cheaper than the Hasselblad, has good film flatness and fits cameras with the PM5 finder. Also works well on my 903SWC. Carl Socolow Eduardo Aigner wrote: > > Does anybody have a Polaroid back for sale?? > > AIGNER > > mEU mAIL mUDOU pARA: > aigner.ez@terra.com.br > ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #969 ************************* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html