hasselblad Sun, 27 Aug 2000 Volume 1 : Number 970 In this issue: Re: Good travel bag Re: Good travel bag SV: Good travel bag Re: Good travel bag Subject: CB vs. CFx and others SV: Good travel bag Re: Good travel bag ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 08:39:55 -0600 From: jim_brick2@am.exch.agilent.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Good travel bag Message-ID: >alison@airpen.demon.co.uk writes > ><< Of course, maybe camera > thieves specialize in knowing what good camera bags look like... > >> InfinityDT@aol.com wrote: > >Most thieves really want cash, jewelry, passports etc. and even a nondescript >bag is a risk for the traveller since the presumption is that it may contain >one or more of the above. The fact is, if you take simple precautions (my >shoulder bags also have waist belts and I don't wear my cameras off one >shoulder like a cool photojournalist, but rather around my neck like a geeky >tourist, and I take my bag with me everywhere and if I take it off in a >restaurant I snap the belt and strap around a chair or my own ankle) you will >probably be passed over for an easier mark. The exception is strong-arm or >armed robbery, which is unlikely unless you're in specific areas and you're >either there in spite of being cognizant of the risk, or else you didn't do >your homework. My friend Paul Wood, while photographing in Cuba, had a backpack slung over one shoulder and a small waist-belt pack on. A thief rushed him (he saw him coming but didn't know what was going on) and in the process of ripping the waist-belt pack off of him, knocked him to the ground. Paul managed to keep the camera in his hand from hitting the ground. The thief did not grab the easily accessible backpack, but ran off with the waist pack. The waist pack contained band aids, chap stick, a map, and a few other nondescript items. The backpack contained all of his cameras (Nikon and Leica - he was shooting with a Leica at the time), his passport, money, and everything else of value. The thief obviously assumed that the waist-belt pack was where the important items were held. And he obviously wasn't interested in cameras. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 16:21:44 +0800 From: Peter Walker To: Subject: Re: Good travel bag Message-ID: For the last 12 months, after 25 years of using traditional shoulder-strap camera bags, I have been using the LowePro Trim Trekker to carry my Hasselblad plus one extra lens and Metz 30 flash. I switched because, as I get older, I worry about my back carrying 10 kgs of equipment, off-center. The Trim Trekker is not as big as some of the other Trekker backpacks but has one major advantage: The back opens from the top, not the side. This means that, whilst you still have to take it off your back to get the camera out, you can easily flip open the top and grab the camera. I find the side loading backpacks much more awkward. Plus, to make it even more easier, when you are using the camera a lot, you do not even need to zip the top closed - the two catches and the big overflap keep the camera secure and are very quick to open. I just wish that it was a tiny bit deeper (the motor winder on the 'blad fits in, but only just) and about 4 inches taller (then I could carry 2 lens plus flash in the bottom drawer). But then, of course, it would be much heavier. Maybe the discipline of having to pick which 2 lens to take with me is good. Anyhow, I like the Trim Trekker so much that, even though the first one is still in good condition, I have bought a second one in case LowePro do something silly like discontinue the product. Regards Peter Email: peter@peterwalker.com URL: http://www.peterwalker.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:41:44 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?ULF_SJ=D6GREN?= To: Subject: SV: Good travel bag Message-ID: <000701c00f5a$feb32340$607597d4@s101194> Simon I never reflected over the fact that you live in Europe. But as you do = you know how "the walz tune goes" (free translation of Swedish = proverb....;-) ). I read an article concerning tourist mugging, = pickpocketing etc. three or four weeks ago. It was strange but Ireland = is the worst country. And Greece the safest...I was in Eire two years = ago, even in Dublin. Took lots of pictures but had the impression that = noone was interested in my Hasselblad cameras. Maybe they are too old??? = Now I can't say that I was in the "Roddy Doyle area" but yet. So I think = you can travel the route you have in mind with just a little extra = watchfulness. One thing I have noticed is that the more you try to hide = the equipment away, the less number of rolls you bring home...... Have a nice trip! Ulf ----- Ursprungligt meddelande -----=20 Fr=E5n: "Simon Lamb" Till: Skickat: den 25 augusti 2000 18:57 =C4mne: Re: Good travel bag > Ulf >=20 > I am from the UK and will be travelling to Florence, Rome, Paris, = Vienna and > the Black Forest, plus some places en route (sadly not Sweden). I = intend to > do as much walking around the cities as possible, so comfort, ease of = use > and security are the prime factors. I looked at the Lowepro Mini = Trekker > and that seems to be comfortable and secure, but the compromise is = having to > remove it to use the equipment. I will look at the Domke and the = other > suggestion of using an ordinary bag with cell foam inserts put into it > (perhaps the diaper bag idea also). >=20 > Simon >=20 > ULF SJ=D6GREN wrote >=20 > > ----- Ursprungligt meddelande ----- > > Fr=E5n: > > Till: > > Skickat: den 25 augusti 2000 15:35 > > =C4mne: Re: Good travel bag > > > > > > Having spent most of yesterday and today, not to mention the night > inbetween, thinking of this problem I think it is time to go back to = basics. > My ultimate humble opinion is that the first letter was regarding a = trip to > Europe (wellcome!) and what kind of bag you could need for that. I = don't say > but we have thiefs here too, but the risk is very small if you stay = out of > obscure places, never leave the equipment in your hotel rom or forget = it on > the beach or in a bar. So Simon, where in Europe are you going? If you = plan > to come up here in the wilderness in nothern Europe for nature = photography > you can have the equipment outside the tent. If you go to the big = cities in > any part, look out a bit more. Take the bag you find comfortable. > > And again: wellcome! > > Ulf > > Sweden > > > > = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute > Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This = mailing list > is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, = or > affiliates. > > > > To change your subscription status, go to: > http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > > Digest archives are stored at = http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > > Searchable archives can be found at > http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > > >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute = Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing = list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's = subsidiaries, or affiliates. >=20 > To change your subscription status, go to: = http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at = http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at = http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html >=20 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 11:59:19 EDT From: InfinityDT@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Good travel bag Message-ID: In a message dated 8/26/00 8:41:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pwalker@cyberway.com.sg writes: << For the last 12 months, after 25 years of using traditional shoulder-strap camera bags, I have been using the LowePro Trim Trekker to carry my Hasselblad plus one extra lens and Metz 30 flash. >> The Trim Trekker is a great bag, I have one I used for the short while I was toying around with a 6x9 technical field camera. With the backpack straps stowed away you can attach a shoulder strap and carry it that way. If it's wet out you can set it on your shoes rather than on the wet ground, and have access through the top. It is also possible to reach back and access the drawer while wearing it as a backpack. Nowadays I use the Mini-Trekker so the Trim-Trekker has been sitting in the closet. If they discontinue them I'll sell it to the highest bidder for a King's ransom ; > ) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:27:49 EDT From: DBaker9128@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Subject: CB vs. CFx and others Message-ID: Xavier wrote: "I am new to the list and I'm thinking in getting into the MF:-) I am a Leica M user and EOS user (for tele-lenses). I would like to complement my 35mm system with MF (I do not do studio). What is the Optical difference between a CB and CFx lense, if I got it right there is no difference." Xavier this is how I would state the CB/CFx differences: - The 60 CB Distagon is the same design and performance as the 60 CF lens (which is discontinued). This lens is equivalent to a 35 mm for your Leica and so you may feel an immediate affinity with it. The 60 CB is a strong performer, even wide open, and is in the top grouping of Hasselblad lenses for MTF performance. - There is an optical design difference between the 80 CB Planar (6 elements) and 80 CFE Planar (7 elements). Suffice it to say the two designs are closely matched until the far edges of the frame are reached, at that point the CFE performs a notch better. - The 160 CB Tessar (4 elements) does not have a direct CFi equivalent. The closest match is the venerable 150 CFi Sonnar (5 elements) which is one of the original lens designs introduced with the Hasselblad 500 series. The 150 CFi has better MTF performance wide open. However how often you will want to shoot wide open is an open question. Depth of Field for Medium Format lenses are substantially reduced compared to the equivalent focal length in 35mm. At F:8 the two lenses are equivalent in performance at the most important 10 cycle MTF measurement. The CB lens line shares the ergonomic and flare reducing improvements of the CFi and CFE lenses. I personally own the 80 CB and 160 CB lenses and find them to be tack sharp, well made, and good value for the money. Check out for yourself all of the fine Hasselblad lenses at the Hasselblad or Zeiss web sites for specific design details and MTF performance graphs: http://www.hasselbladusa.com/ http://www.zeiss.de/de/photo/home_e.nsf/allBySubject/Launch+-+Zeiss-engl+Notes Template Doug from Tumwater ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 21:04:01 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?ULF_SJ=D6GREN?= To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?ULF_SJ=D6GREN?= , Subject: SV: Good travel bag Message-ID: <000201c00f9d$ec236a80$a37797d4@s101194> ----- Ursprungligt meddelande -----=20 Fr=E5n: "ULF SJ=D6GREN" Till: Skickat: den 26 augusti 2000 14:41 =C4mne: SV: Good travel bag Simon I never reflected over the fact that you live in Europe. But as you do = you know how "the walz tune goes" (free translation of Swedish = proverb....;-) ). I read an article concerning tourist mugging, = pickpocketing etc. three or four weeks ago. It was strange but Ireland = is the worst country. And Greece the safest...I was in Eire two years = ago, even in Dublin. Took lots of pictures but had the impression that = noone was interested in my Hasselblad cameras. Maybe they are too old??? = Now I can't say that I was in the "Roddy Doyle area" but yet. So I think = you can travel the route you have in mind with just a little extra = watchfulness. One thing I have noticed is that the more you try to hide = the equipment away, the less number of rolls you bring home...... Have a nice trip! Ulf ----- Ursprungligt meddelande -----=20 Fr=E5n: "Simon Lamb" Till: Skickat: den 25 augusti 2000 18:57 =C4mne: Re: Good travel bag > Ulf >=20 > I am from the UK and will be travelling to Florence, Rome, Paris, = Vienna and > the Black Forest, plus some places en route (sadly not Sweden). I = intend to > do as much walking around the cities as possible, so comfort, ease of = use > and security are the prime factors. I looked at the Lowepro Mini = Trekker > and that seems to be comfortable and secure, but the compromise is = having to > remove it to use the equipment. I will look at the Domke and the = other > suggestion of using an ordinary bag with cell foam inserts put into it > (perhaps the diaper bag idea also). >=20 > Simon >=20 > ULF SJ=D6GREN wrote >=20 > > ----- Ursprungligt meddelande ----- > > Fr=E5n: > > Till: > > Skickat: den 25 augusti 2000 15:35 > > =C4mne: Re: Good travel bag > > > > > > Having spent most of yesterday and today, not to mention the night > inbetween, thinking of this problem I think it is time to go back to = basics. > My ultimate humble opinion is that the first letter was regarding a = trip to > Europe (wellcome!) and what kind of bag you could need for that. I = don't say > but we have thiefs here too, but the risk is very small if you stay = out of > obscure places, never leave the equipment in your hotel rom or forget = it on > the beach or in a bar. So Simon, where in Europe are you going? If you = plan > to come up here in the wilderness in nothern Europe for nature = photography > you can have the equipment outside the tent. If you go to the big = cities in > any part, look out a bit more. Take the bag you find comfortable. > > And again: wellcome! > > Ulf > > Sweden > > > > = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute > Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This = mailing list > is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, = or > affiliates. > > > > To change your subscription status, go to: > http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > > Digest archives are stored at = http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > > Searchable archives can be found at > http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > > >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute = Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing = list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's = subsidiaries, or affiliates. >=20 > To change your subscription status, go to: = http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at = http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at = http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html >=20 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 20:15:08 EDT From: QWhoZeiss@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Good travel bag Message-ID: <57.a73457c.26d9b78c@aol.com> I toured Europe with the SFO/Symphony, for a month and carried everything I needed in the Domke just a little bit bigger bag. 4-contax cameras, 25,50,180mm lenses. A200fcw, prism and winder with 50mmF2.8 and the 80mm and also a 180mm F/2.8 , one meter . All this in the Domke bag. Now film went with the symphony stuff. 300 rolls B&W and another 300rolls of color. Domke makes great bags. ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #970 ************************* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html