hasselblad Sat, 2 Sep 2000 Volume 1 : Number 976 In this issue: RE: For Sale--Chrome A-12 Back--Mint photographers Re: photographers Re: photographers SV: photographers Re: SV: photographers RE: photographers RE: photographers Re: RE: photographers Re: photographers "I are an Engineer" Fw: New Member Photocritique.net Re: Fw: New Member New Member URL Re: SV: photographers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 06:42:54 -0400 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: Subject: RE: For Sale--Chrome A-12 Back--Mint Message-ID: <000201c01401$64260530$0100a8c0@paolopent> I too am an engineer by training, EE, grad courses, Columbia University, then I worked for a while at Bell Labs in N.J. After that I co-founded a brokerage company in NYC, left over critical differences, started a translation and interpreting business (worked mainly from the UN), then I got a special invitation to join a team as a contractor in the SDNY as a linguist, a case that turned out to be the biggest up to then, the "Pizza Connection". The investigation lasted about two years, the trial lasted another two years. That was a cool time... . I then left NYC, settled in Litchfield, CT and started an online software business in 1988 called The Corner Store (www.TheCornerStore.com), which is just about to get a full commerce engine. I use my Hasselblads for portraits of my family, landscapes and close-up photography. I prefer B&W since I enjoy experimenting with development and printing. Paolo Paolo Pignatelli -----Original Message----- From: DavidG6028@aol.com [mailto:DavidG6028@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 10:13 PM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: For Sale--Chrome A-12 Back--Mint Any other Engineers who use Hasselblads? -David Gerhardt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 01:46:41 -0300 From: "Eduardo Aigner" To: , Subject: photographers Message-ID: <000201c00a62$04701160$6da9b6c8@EduardoAigner> > > >At least I know now one category of people who buy > > > Hasselblads. > > > Paolo Pignatelli > > > > I know lots of doctors who use the hassie... > > AIGNER > > > I'm a photographer who uses one, also Rolleiflex and Leica M. > Mark William Rabiner Well, I have an incomplete architectural degree... AIGNER ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:16:45 EDT From: ShadCat11@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: photographers Message-ID: <43.9c37554.26e15a9d@aol.com> In a message dated 09/01/2000 7:39:58 AM, you wrote: <<> > >At least I know now one category of people who buy > > > Hasselblads. > > > Paolo Pignatelli > > > > I know lots of doctors who use the hassie... > > AIGNER > > > I'm a photographer who uses one, also Rolleiflex and Leica M. > Mark William Rabiner Well, I have an incomplete architectural degree... AIGNER >> I am a former poet who uses Hasselblad and Rolleiflex. I much prefer the Rolleiflex, but strictly for emotional reasons. Allen Zak ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:31:04 EDT From: InfinityDT@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: photographers Message-ID: In a message dated 9/1/00 3:17:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ShadCat11@aol.com writes: << I am a former poet who uses Hasselblad and Rolleiflex. I much prefer the Rolleiflex, but strictly for emotional reasons. Allen Zak >> Me I prefer the Hasselblad, Best darn camera I've ever had. I loved my Rollei when it was new, But back then I was a poet too. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:39:03 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?ULF_SJ=D6GREN?= To: Subject: SV: photographers Message-ID: <000901c0144c$49b5dfe0$2a7a97d4@s101194> I am a doctor who uses Hasselblad. Everyday I see THE Picture, often = several times a day. But ethics prevents me from taking those pictures. = That is the way it is - and shall be. But sometimes I wish......... Ulf S ----- Ursprungligt meddelande -----=20 Fr=E5n: Till: Skickat: den 1 september 2000 21:31 =C4mne: Re: photographers > In a message dated 9/1/00 3:17:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = ShadCat11@aol.com=20 > writes: >=20 > << I am a former poet who uses Hasselblad and Rolleiflex. I much = prefer the=20 > Rolleiflex, but strictly for emotional reasons. > =20 > Allen Zak >> >=20 > Me I prefer the Hasselblad, > Best darn camera I've ever had. > I loved my Rollei when it was new, > But back then I was a poet too. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute = Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing = list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's = subsidiaries, or affiliates. >=20 > To change your subscription status, go to: = http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at = http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at = http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 13:01:59 -0700 From: "Peter Klosky" To: , Subject: Re: SV: photographers Message-ID: Ulf, You know, when cameras first came out, the medical field thought they were = great, and started to use them to study patients. They would disrobe the = patient, and do a series of full lengths, often from the front, side and = rear. These would be repeated over a period of time, and could be used to = study the patient. Just like taking a patient's weight and height, they = represent a test that is "non-intrusive." But ethics, and perhaps = morality, have denied most patients access to this technology, as many = patients are hesitant to disrobe or even be weighed unless it is clearly = explained to them as needed. This opinion I am expressing is one that I = read about in "Journal of the Biological and Medical Photographer," = roughly. We have an excellent medical library nearby, "The National = Library of Medicine" located near Washington, DC, where I have studied = some of the books on medical photography. As far as what I use my Hasselblad system for, it is mostly for wedding = and portrait photography, though I do work 9-5 as a software engineer, = which does not require much photography, outside of the periodic social = gathering and rare product shot. Peter >>> ulf.sjogren@mbox310.swipnet.se 09/01/00 03:39PM >>> I am a doctor who uses Hasselblad. Everyday I see THE Picture, often = several times a day. But ethics prevents me from taking those pictures. = That is the way it is - and shall be. But sometimes I wish......... Ulf S ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:15:30 -0400 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: Subject: RE: photographers Message-ID: <000001c01451$60a868d0$0100a8c0@paolopent> This is turning out to be one of the most interesting threads I have experienced. But WHY do us non-photographers photograph? As for myself, I try to recreate something that I see in my mind, an esthetic recreation of state of mind, an esthetic. The Avedons, the Penn= s, the Ansel Adams' of our world record what they feel about something, not necessarily what it is, or my be. Hiro and Maeda and Kenna too. Now, I am no way near there, but I enjoy the occasional success in creati= ng permanently a fleeting esthetic moment my mind has wandered by. Paolo Paolo Pignatelli -----Original Message----- From: ULF SJ=D6GREN [mailto:ulf.sjogren@mbox310.swipnet.se] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 3:39 PM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: SV: photographers I am a doctor who uses Hasselblad. Everyday I see THE Picture, often seve= ral times a day. But ethics prevents me from taking those pictures. That is t= he way it is - and shall be. But sometimes I wish......... Ulf S ----- Ursprungligt meddelande ----- Fr=E5n: Till: Skickat: den 1 september 2000 21:31 =C4mne: Re: photographers > In a message dated 9/1/00 3:17:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ShadCat11@aol.com > writes: > > << I am a former poet who uses Hasselblad and Rolleiflex. I much prefe= r the > Rolleiflex, but strictly for emotional reasons. > > Allen Zak >> > > Me I prefer the Hasselblad, > Best darn camera I've ever had. > I loved my Rollei when it was new, > But back then I was a poet too. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing l= ist is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.ht= m > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing l= ist is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.h= tml ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:15:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chris J. DiBona" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: RE: photographers Message-ID: For me the answer is simple. Color. In a way, with the proper lighting and flash and such, the colors I can get out of my hassy is in some ways, perfect, and that's why I carry my camera. Chris -- > This is turning out to be one of the most interesting threads I have > experienced. But WHY do us non-photographers photograph? > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 19:01:36 EDT From: DavidG6028@aol.com To: paolop@snet.net, hasselblad@kelvin.net, HeeSunAlfa@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: photographers Message-ID: In a message dated 9/1/00 1:15:50 PM, paolop@snet.net writes: >This is turning out to be one of the most interesting threads I have >experienced. But WHY do us non-photographers photograph? > > Very interesting to find so many people from the engineering field as Hasselblad owners. When I asked the original question, I thought I might have been the only one! By the way, my first exposure to Hasselblad was working on the Apollo program for Rockwell (now, Boeing). At lunch time I'd go over to the "high-bay" behind Bldg 6 in Downey, CA, and watch them lay out the flight kits for the Command & Service modules. This included the Hasselblad cameras, flight suits, etc. As a young college grad (BS, ME), I thought I'd died and gone to heaven! Finally got my first Hasselblad (500c/m) in 1974, and used it to take pictures (from about 1500 feet away) of the first static tests of the Space Shuttle solid rocket motors at the Thiokol facility in Wasatch, Utah. The test created some very dramatic pictures of "mushroom" clouds as the exhaust gases (~3 million pounds of thrust) impacted a small hill several hundred yards behind the test structure. Since my days in propulsion systems, I've also worked on several software projects (NASA), a number of advanced programs activities, was Chief Engineer on the Mars lander study for JPL (we lost the final downselect to Lockheed, and it was their design that recently failed), the Teledesic satellite network (200+ low earth orbit satellites for global communications), and am now working on a project to use geosynchronous satellites for providing high-speed internet access to airline passengers. Always dragging along my trusty Hasselblad! I think there's something about the precision mechanisms of cameras in general (and Hasselblads in particular) that appeals to Engineers. Last year I traded in my 500c/m for a 203FE, and also added a 40CFE. I'm very impressed with the flexibility, and quality of the 203FE. It's too bad the price differential between it and the 500-series cameras is so large; I think this is the main reason that the 200-series cameras have never "taken off" in terms of market penetration. As to why do we "non-photographers" photograph. For me, it provides a way of "getting away". An enforced change of pace, that allows me to recharge. And, along the way, helps document the world of my family and friends. -David Gerhardt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 17:49:27 -0600 From: "Raymond Wong" To: , Subject: Re: photographers Message-ID: <002e01c0146f$45f9d460$45be6c18@powersurfr.com> Yes Paolo: This is one of the most interesting threads. I am no engineer, although many thought I should have been because of childhood enthusiasm in radio electronics. I am a scientist. I went into photography when I turned 40= , because I want something artistic in my life. Well, it turned out to be = as scientific as anything can be. A few years later, a retired doctor sold m= e his Hassy 1000F for a symbolic $100.00 and it got me hooked on Hassey sin= ce then. I photograph out of interest. I think if I photograph for a living, it would be a totally different ball game. I love my 500CM. I have recentl= y got my 180 Sonnar and am working on getting my 50 Distagon. I shoot main= ly black and white and process the film in my basement darkroom. I have several other hobbies, but photography is very special. Raymond Wong. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paolo Pignatelli To: Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 2:15 PM Subject: RE: photographers This is turning out to be one of the most interesting threads I have experienced. But WHY do us non-photographers photograph? As for myself, I try to recreate something that I see in my mind, an esthetic recreation of state of mind, an esthetic. The Avedons, the Penn= s, the Ansel Adams' of our world record what they feel about something, not necessarily what it is, or my be. Hiro and Maeda and Kenna too. Now, I am no way near there, but I enjoy the occasional success in creati= ng permanently a fleeting esthetic moment my mind has wandered by. Paolo Paolo Pignatelli -----Original Message----- From: ULF SJ=D6GREN [mailto:ulf.sjogren@mbox310.swipnet.se] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 3:39 PM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: SV: photographers I am a doctor who uses Hasselblad. Everyday I see THE Picture, often seve= ral times a day. But ethics prevents me from taking those pictures. That is t= he way it is - and shall be. But sometimes I wish......... Ulf S ----- Ursprungligt meddelande ----- Fr=E5n: Till: Skickat: den 1 september 2000 21:31 =C4mne: Re: photographers > In a message dated 9/1/00 3:17:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ShadCat11@aol.com > writes: > > << I am a former poet who uses Hasselblad and Rolleiflex. I much prefe= r the > Rolleiflex, but strictly for emotional reasons. > > Allen Zak >> > > Me I prefer the Hasselblad, > Best darn camera I've ever had. > I loved my Rollei when it was new, > But back then I was a poet too. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing l= ist is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.ht= m > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing l= ist is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.h= tml ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing l= ist is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.h= tml ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:54:24 -0700 From: "olenberger" To: Subject: "I are an Engineer" Message-ID: <002101c0146f$f63ea580$30a7263f@default> I am Director of Engineering for Raytheon's Electronic Warfare operations in Santa Barbara, CA. MSEE from MIT in 1972. -Fritz Olenberger ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 7:12 PM Subject: Re: For Sale--Chrome A-12 Back--Mint > Any other Engineers who use Hasselblads? > > -David Gerhardt > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:07:20 -0400 From: "Mr. E Crumpler, Jr" To: "Hasselblad UG" Subject: Fw: New Member Message-ID: <005901c01471$ca6ee8a0$c4686620@computer> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. E Crumpler, Jr" To: "Hasselblad Mail List" Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 7:58 PM Subject: New Member > I just joined this mail list today 9/01/00. I recently purchased a used > 500CM. I primarily use a Pentax 67 system, but my wife insisted that I get > a Hassie(is this the offical abrebviation?), because I was talking about > Hassie. Don't you wish you had a wife like that! > > I've been doing B&W photography for about 45 years. Started at the age of 10 > with a brownie and my father's darkroom equipment for the 30's. Worked > briefly as a photographer for a local paper and TV statioin (WSLS-TV, any > Roanokers out there?) I've been working as a chemical/environmental > engineer for a long, long time. Since 1975, I've been with the USEPA. > > Primarly I shoot for camera club competitions and am working on getting my > work into a gallery. > > Gene Crumpler > AKA Nikonguy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 17:11:44 -0700 From: "olenberger" To: Subject: Photocritique.net Message-ID: <005601c01472$61c806a0$30a7263f@default> Does anyone on this list (besides me) post their photos on photocritique.net? You should -- it's free, and you can get some useful comments. Mine were taken with a Hasselblad 500CM, Leica M4, or an old Rollei TLR. -Fritz Olenberger ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:35:47 EDT From: DKFletcher@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fw: New Member Message-ID: <26.a393e7b.26e1a563@aol.com> Welcome! Dirk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:48:22 -0400 From: "Mr. E Crumpler, Jr" To: "Hasselblad UG" Subject: New Member URL Message-ID: <002c01c01477$8295e820$c4686620@computer> I forgot to mention my B&W web site. Gene Crumpler AKA Nikonguy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 14:26:17 +0800 From: "Dr. Joseph Yao" To: Subject: Re: SV: photographers Message-ID: on 2/9/00 3:39 am, ULF SJ=D6GREN at ulf.sjogren@mbox310.swipnet.se wrote: > I am a doctor who uses Hasselblad. Everyday I see THE Picture, often seve= ral > times a day. But ethics prevents me from taking those pictures. That is t= he > way it is - and shall be. But sometimes I wish......... > Ulf S The feeling is mutual.... Joseph ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #976 ************************* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html