hasselblad Mon, 11 Sep 2000 Volume 1 : Number 985 In this issue: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC Re: Fifteen year old SWC ELM/ELX Polaroid Back ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 10:13:45 -0400 From: Marcober To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <39BB9719.BE91B6BB@gate.net> What I did not make clear was that the SWC is in the sealed original Hasselblad box w/the slip cardboard (now yellowed). We will not know the exact condition of the camera until it is purchased. The dealer is not about to open the cellophane for me to decide whether I want it or not. Compris? MB Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Can anyone think of a reason not to purchase a "new" sealed SWC (if > > the price is right) from an authorize dealer who has had it in > > inventory since the 80"s? which reminds me that the serial number > > begins with 98... > > Any help would be appreciated like would the leather still be ok and > > would the lubrication likely be as it is supposed to be? > > Thanks > > MB > > The serial number should begin with 2 letters, which designate the > year of manufacture. Use the following decoding key: > > V H P I C T U R E S > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 > > So, a serial number such as RC xxxxxxxx would mean the camera was made > in 1985. > > Check that the film advance and shutter work smoothly both with and > without a film back attached. Check that the glass is clean and there > are no scratch, etc. Check that the black flocking inside the camera > between the rear lens element and the back of the camera is in good > shape and not falling off. Does it come with a finder? You'll need > one to use the camera easily. > > If everything is okay and the price is right, buy it! Then go to a > certified Hassie tech and have him check it out. You'll probably need > to have the moving parts relubed, if the camera has been sitting > without use for 15 years. > > -- > Patrick Bartek > NoLife Polymath Group > bartek@pdai.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 13:27:10 -0700 From: Mark Rabiner To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <39BBEE9D.3267EAF8@rabiner.cncoffice.com> Marcober wrote: > > What I did not make clear was that the SWC is in the sealed original Hasselblad box w/the slip cardboard (now yellowed). We will not know the exact condition of the camera until it is purchased. The dealer is not about to open the > cellophane for me to decide whether I want it or not. > Compris? > MB > Maybe there will be a moon rock inside! or a long lost Elvis recording. markwr ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 16:37:58 -0400 From: Marcober To: mark@rabiner.cncoffice.com Cc: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <39BBF126.73A1523B@gate.net> That's a very clever response, but how about some help. This is not an academic exercise, but a real probem. I want to offer the dealer a price to benefit myself while not making it so foolishly low that he would not accept it. MB Mark Rabiner wrote: > Marcober wrote: > > > > What I did not make clear was that the SWC is in the sealed original Hasselblad box w/the slip cardboard (now yellowed). We will not know the exact condition of the camera until it is purchased. The dealer is not about to open the > > cellophane for me to decide whether I want it or not. > > Compris? > > MB > > > Maybe there will be a moon rock inside! > or a long lost Elvis recording. > markwr > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 13:59:31 -0700 From: Mark Rabiner To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <39BBF633.C5BB6B3C@rabiner.cncoffice.com> Marcober wrote: > > That's a very clever response, but how about some help. This is not an academic exercise, but a real probem. I want to offer the dealer a price to benefit myself while not making it so foolishly low that he would not accept it. > MB > Well it's going to need a CLA that's all there is too it! It is an interesting situation that I'm intrigued with and not meaning to belittle... but the single worse thing you can do to a camera other than throw it off a moving 707 is to put it on a shelf and forget about it, it just dries out. A CLA is part of the cost of many a used camera. Most suffer from extreme neglect. (about the worst thing you can do to people too) With your camera you don't' have to guess, you know. Mark A c or CF? there is something to be said for a c lens on a superwide ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:15:34 -0400 From: Marcober To: mark@rabiner.cncoffice.com Cc: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <39BBF9F6.9A7C3FE5@gate.net> Thanks for your serious reply. Further, what is the likelihood that the leather has or is beginning to separate from the body?, also how much do you think I should reasonably offer for such an item? and lastly should I pass on it altogether in favor of an older "C"? This camera seems to be current as far as the catalog goes... a 503 (I guess that means CF?) Seriously thanks for th help. MB Mark Rabiner wrote: > Marcober wrote: > > > > That's a very clever response, but how about some help. This is not an academic exercise, but a real probem. I want to offer the dealer a price to benefit myself while not making it so foolishly low that he would not accept it. > > MB > > > Well it's going to need a CLA that's all there is too it! > It is an interesting situation that I'm intrigued with and not meaning to belittle... > but the single worse thing you can do to a camera other than throw it off a > moving 707 is to put it on a shelf and forget about it, it just dries out. > A CLA is part of the cost of many a used camera. > Most suffer from extreme neglect. (about the worst thing you can do to people too) > With your camera you don't' have to guess, you know. > Mark > A c or CF? there is something to be said for a c lens on a superwide > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 15:02:59 -0700 From: helenadick@worldnet.att.net To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <39BC0513.DFCB8575@worldnet.att.net> Marcober wrote: > > Thanks for your serious reply. Further, what is the likelihood that the leather has or is beginning to separate from the body?, also how much do you think I should reasonably offer for such an item? and lastly should I pass on it > altogether in favor of an older "C"? This camera seems to be current as far as the catalog goes... a 503 (I guess that means CF?) > Seriously thanks for th help. > MB > > Mark Rabiner wrote: I have seen this thread and it has gone on a bit far. First let me give you some history. I did have a Hasselblad franchise starting back around 1970 that lasted for several years. I was a nut case, in that I had to own everything Hasselblad had in their catalog. After a death in the family, I came to my senses, and sold off all the new equipment I had to a dealer in the east. All of the equipment came with factory warranty cards. To make a long story short, there were problems with the equipment. Hasselblad covered everything under their warranty, but did so in a very unhappy fashion. The president of Hasselblad did call me one day, and said he was no longer going to honor the warranty on the equipment. Well, it was too late, as all had been sold and that, that had problems already hit them. What you are going to find is you maybe have to redo a shutter, clean out all the hardened grease in the body, and maybe do some lubrication on the magazine. All of this is no big deal, especially at the $1500 price you are talking about. The manual I sell on the magazines, would take care of the magazine. If you are patient, in about 2/3 weeks, I will have a manual on the bodies and lenses. All of these repairs take but a little time. If you can get the guy down in price take it, in fact take it anyhow. If he is an authorized Hasselblad dealer, sing the blues to Hasselblad and they will take care of things for you. For sure, they do not want to get a bad reputation. It is getting bad enough for them right now. If you have to threaten, do so. Let them know you are on the net and belong to several groups that talk nothing but Hasselblad. They will bend over to take care of you as they are trying to take care of a reputation that is going down hill very fast. Just my 2 cents in this matter. -- _______________________________ Dick Werner 112 South Brighton St. Burbank, Ca., 91506 (818) 845-4667 helenadick@worldnet.att.net _______________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:08:55 EDT From: JCurcio@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: You know, you're buying a pig in a poke. If the dealer won't stand behind the sale by letting you open the box up and inspect what you're buying, find another dealer. You're paying good money for what you're purchasing -- whatever you're paying. You're trying to guess and you're asking others to guess what its condition might be. Wanna buy my car? I've got it in the garage and but I'm not going to open it up and let you look at it and I'm not going to let you test drive it so that you know what you're getting into. Sometimes it's just plain wiser to pay a bit more on the front end so that you avoid disasters on the back end. >>>In a message dated 9/10/00 4:39:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, marcober@gate.net writes: << That's a very clever response, but how about some help. This is not an academic exercise, but a real probem. I want to offer the dealer a price to benefit myself while not making it so foolishly low that he would not accept it. MB Mark Rabiner wrote: > Marcober wrote: > > > > What I did not make clear was that the SWC is in the sealed original Hasselblad box w/the slip cardboard (now yellowed). We will not know the exact condition of the camera until it is purchased. The dealer is not about to open the > > cellophane for me to decide whether I want it or not. > > Compris? > > MB > > > Maybe there will be a moon rock inside! > or a long lost Elvis recording. > markwr > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. >> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 15:15:35 -0700 From: helenadick@worldnet.att.net To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <39BC0807.E63E848@worldnet.att.net> Marcober wrote: > > Thanks for your serious reply. Further, what is the likelihood that the leather has or is beginning to separate from the body?, also how much do you think I should reasonably offer for such an item? and lastly should I pass on it > altogether in favor of an older "C"? This camera seems to be current as far as the catalog goes... a 503 (I guess that means CF?) > Seriously thanks for th help. > MB > > Mark Rabiner wrote: I should add one other thing. That is, if this is a authorized Hasselblad dealer, or he was at the time of purchase (let him show you the franchise paperwork), you have Hasselblad by the tail. I would futher add, that if you do not want the camera, contact me by private email and I will by it with no hesitation, as I can make an easy $1000 out of it. Don't let everyone make you stupid, buy the camera, as it is a deal, especially if it has the warranty card, which it does if the camera is sealed. Thanks, -- _______________________________ Dick Werner 112 South Brighton St. Burbank, Ca., 91506 (818) 845-4667 helenadick@worldnet.att.net _______________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:28:27 -0400 From: Marcober To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <39BC0B0B.DC6D9339@gate.net> Its interesting--thats the point if you were the dealer you wouldnt open it either. The customer says "no thanks" and then you have a no longer sealed item. In its uncertain condition it has to have a fair price and that is what I am asking you guys to devine. MB JCurcio@aol.com wrote: > You know, you're buying a pig in a poke. If the dealer won't stand behind > the sale by letting you open the box up and inspect what you're buying, find > another dealer. You're paying good money for what you're purchasing -- > whatever you're paying. You're trying to guess and you're asking others to > guess what its condition might be. Wanna buy my car? I've got it in the > garage and but I'm not going to open it up and let you look at it and I'm not > going to let you test drive it so that you know what you're getting into. > Sometimes it's just plain wiser to pay a bit more on the front end so that > you avoid disasters on the back end. > > >>>In a message dated 9/10/00 4:39:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > marcober@gate.net writes: > > << That's a very clever response, but how about some help. This is not an > academic exercise, but a real probem. I want to offer the dealer a price to > benefit myself while not making it so foolishly low that he would not accept > it. > MB > > Mark Rabiner wrote: > > > Marcober wrote: > > > > > > What I did not make clear was that the SWC is in the sealed original > Hasselblad box w/the slip cardboard (now yellowed). We will not know the > exact condition of the camera until it is purchased. The dealer is not about > to open the > > > cellophane for me to decide whether I want it or not. > > > Compris? > > > MB > > > > > Maybe there will be a moon rock inside! > > or a long lost Elvis recording. > > markwr > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute > Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list > is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or > affiliates. >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:32:07 -0400 From: Marcober To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <39BC0BE7.CA0202AD@gate.net> It is an authorized dealer and it does have the cards etc. it has a warranty, of course BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD OFFER? I dont want to buy it and then send it to Hasselblad for an overhaul the next day. You can understand that no? MB helenadick@worldnet.att.net wrote: > Marcober wrote: > > > > Thanks for your serious reply. Further, what is the likelihood that the leather has or is beginning to separate from the body?, also how much do you think I should reasonably offer for such an item? and lastly should I pass on it > > altogether in favor of an older "C"? This camera seems to be current as far as the catalog goes... a 503 (I guess that means CF?) > > Seriously thanks for th help. > > MB > > > > Mark Rabiner wrote: > > I should add one other thing. That is, if this is a authorized > Hasselblad dealer, or he was at the time of purchase (let him show you > the franchise paperwork), you have Hasselblad by the tail. > > I would futher add, that if you do not want the camera, contact me by > private email and I will by it with no hesitation, as I can make an easy > $1000 out of it. Don't let everyone make you stupid, buy the camera, as > it is a deal, especially if it has the warranty card, which it does if > the camera is sealed. > > Thanks, > -- > _______________________________ > Dick Werner > 112 South Brighton St. > Burbank, Ca., 91506 > (818) 845-4667 > > helenadick@worldnet.att.net > _______________________________ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:35:04 -0400 From: Marcober To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <39BC0C97.7B6D75B2@gate.net> Im the guy who started the thread. I still want to know what I should offer the dealer for the camera. Where did the $1500.00 come from. I think tha's too low, he wont go for it ... I wouldn't if I were he. MB helenadick@worldnet.att.net wrote: > Marcober wrote: > > > > Thanks for your serious reply. Further, what is the likelihood that the leather has or is beginning to separate from the body?, also how much do you think I should reasonably offer for such an item? and lastly should I pass on it > > altogether in favor of an older "C"? This camera seems to be current as far as the catalog goes... a 503 (I guess that means CF?) > > Seriously thanks for th help. > > MB > > > > Mark Rabiner wrote: > > I have seen this thread and it has gone on a bit far. First let me give > you some history. I did have a Hasselblad franchise starting back around > 1970 that lasted for several years. I was a nut case, in that I had to > own everything Hasselblad had in their catalog. After a death in the > family, I came to my senses, and sold off all the new equipment I had to > a dealer in the east. All of the equipment came with factory warranty > cards. > > To make a long story short, there were problems with the equipment. > Hasselblad covered everything under their warranty, but did so in a very > unhappy fashion. The president of Hasselblad did call me one day, and > said he was no longer going to honor the warranty on the equipment. > Well, it was too late, as all had been sold and that, that had problems > already hit them. > > What you are going to find is you maybe have to redo a shutter, clean > out all the hardened grease in the body, and maybe do some lubrication > on the magazine. All of this is no big deal, especially at the $1500 > price you are talking about. The manual I sell on the magazines, would > take care of the magazine. If you are patient, in about 2/3 weeks, I > will have a manual on the bodies and lenses. All of these repairs take > but a little time. If you can get the guy down in price take it, in fact > take it anyhow. If he is an authorized Hasselblad dealer, sing the blues > to Hasselblad and they will take care of things for you. For sure, they > do not want to get a bad reputation. It is getting bad enough for them > right now. If you have to threaten, do so. Let them know you are on the > net and belong to several groups that talk nothing but Hasselblad. They > will bend over to take care of you as they are trying to take care of a > reputation that is going down hill very fast. > > Just my 2 cents in this matter. > -- > _______________________________ > Dick Werner > 112 South Brighton St. > Burbank, Ca., 91506 > (818) 845-4667 > > helenadick@worldnet.att.net > _______________________________ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:38:21 -0400 From: Dan Cardish To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000910183821.0093c840@pop.microtec.net> How about a price midway between the current new price and a typical mintish used price? Does this make any sense? Dan C. At 06:32 PM 10-09-00 -0400, Marcober wrote: >It is an authorized dealer and it does have the cards etc. it has a warranty, of course BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD OFFER? I dont want to buy it and then send it to Hasselblad for an overhaul the next day. You can understand that >no? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 15:44:28 -0700 From: helenadick@worldnet.att.net To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <39BC0ECC.B42D3817@worldnet.att.net> Marcober wrote: > > It is an authorized dealer and it does have the cards etc. it has a warranty, of course BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD OFFER? I dont want to buy it and then send it to Hasselblad for an overhaul the next day. You can understand that > no? > MB Guess my memory is failing me. I remembered a $1500 number. If you are getting a deal, and have to send it to Hasselblad the next day, so what!!!! If you want a SWC, go for it. It will say on the box what it is-SWC, SWC/M and it will also say what type lens (C or CF). If not in words, it will show you by photo. A deal is a deal. Many people have to be hit in the head, and still do not recognize a deal. You know that is very true. If a deal, go for it. If not a deal, pass. The mechanical condition is not material. You can look at it this way. You have been without a SWC for how many years? Do you mean to tell me that 2/3 weeks are going to make a difference in your business or life without a SWC? Think it over. Thanks, -- _______________________________ Dick Werner 112 South Brighton St. Burbank, Ca., 91506 (818) 845-4667 helenadick@worldnet.att.net _______________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:40:00 -0500 From: Gregg Laiben To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000910180255.00ca4a00@mail.kc.rmi.net> At 18:32 9/10/00 -0400, Marcober wrote: >It is an authorized dealer and it does have the cards etc. it has a >warranty, of course BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD OFFER? I dont want to >buy it and then send it to Hasselblad for an overhaul the next day. You >can understand that Simple: 1) it is worth whatever amount a willing buyer will agree to pay and that a motivated seller will relinquish for, and, 2) how bad do you want it? I'm not being flippant, I'm being realistic - let me explain. Are you a collector of rare cameras? Is the dealer expecting the price for a rare item (sealed NIB)?? Does the idea of owning a camera in a sealed box intrigue you?? (some Leica collectors pay extraordinary amounts for sealed boxes - they _never_ can verify the camera inside because opening the box destroys the rarity factor.) If this is your intention, then offer _top_ price - you will have a jewel of a deal and a very valuable camera. Of course, I don't know what this price will be - not many folks will either - the market for this type of item is very low. Expect to offer top dollar though - you are bidding in a rare market. You _may_ have to pay more than a new 903 - maybe twice the value of a new 903. Why? 903's are available sealed NIB from many dealers - sealed NIB Superwides _aren't_. In fact this may be the _only_ one available on the market right now - it probably won't be the last....unless the dealer or you open it . Ahhhh....there's the catch....do _you_ intend to use the camera? If you are planning to open the box once it becomes _your_ property, then the rarity factor immediately vanishes once you do. All dollars paid in excess of the "mint/like-new" value of a _used_ Superwide will then evaporate too! ....and you will simply own a used, albeit very mint Superwide. In this case, offer nothing more than top price expected for a mint, like new camera, which is what it will be _to you_. In this instance, check the internet for comparison prices. $1500 would be low - something in the range of $2000-2300 might be more realistic. I just checked several places on the net for prices, and can't find any listed (keh.com, Midwest Camera, Hawaii Camera). Don Chatterton has several used in stock - call him for sales prices. In conclusion, don't let the emotions of owning a "new" old camera get in your way, unless you're a collector. As other replyers have mentioned, if you're planning to use it, it'll need a CLA out of the box and you must incorporate this expense into your offer. Hope this helps...gregg ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 20:03:48 -0000 From: "Peter Jon White" To: Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <009501c01b62$3bf91b20$b94a43d8@office1> For Christ's sake! The camera sells for $5,000 new! How much can an overhaul cost! Buy the damned thing if you want it or let it rest! I'll make it easy for you. What's the camera worth to you? $X Find out what a full service would cost. $Y Subtract $Y from $X and offer the store that. This is not rocket science. It's simple arithmetic. Peter Jon White > It is an authorized dealer and it does have the cards etc. it has a warranty, of course BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD OFFER? I dont want to buy it and then send it to Hasselblad for an overhaul the next day. You can understand that > no? > MB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 20:45:30 EDT From: COHIBA7@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <4a.aaf927e.26ed852a@aol.com> I'll take it! Thread over! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:37:17 -0400 From: Carl Socolow To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <39BC374D.F6440E97@mindspring.com> One other thing to consider. If you're buying the camera to use, you're still going to have to buy a back. Welcome to Hasselblad. Personally, I'd buy a used 903SWC in the low to mid $3000 range and be done with it. It's a great machine as I can personally attest. Especially when used with the viewing screen and reflex viewer. Carl Socolow www.members.tripod.com/SocPhoto ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 20:07:41 -0700 From: Mattei To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Fifteen year old SWC Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000910200741.0079dbc0@popped.cts.com> At 20:45 9/10/2000 EDT, you wrote: >I'll take it! Thread over! Thanks, COHIBA. This thread has been beat to death. For one, I don't classify the SWC/M as a rarity, even if NIB. Also, the Chatterton SW are vintage Supreme Wides from the 50's itterations. I purchased my 1970 'wide for 1470. MIB. I can't really see that a roll was ever put through. I've used the beejeezus out of it in the last two years. Mr Buyer, just walk 1500.00 over to the dealer tomorrow. Cash. If he doesn't take it, then he's wasting YOUR TIME. Move on and purchase one off e-Bay or some other venue. Peter Mattei ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 22:45:51 -0500 From: "Mark Rutledge" To: "Hasselblad" Subject: ELM/ELX Polaroid Back Message-ID: <001201c01ba2$c835e100$1ba8cbd8@niki> Didn't find much in the archives, so I thought I'd ask if anyone has any experience w/ P-backs for the ELM/ELX. Are their any older backs(Arca-Swiss,Klinger, Older Hasselblad) that will work or do I have to look only for the newer ones? Thanks. Mark Rutledge ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #985 ************************* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. 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