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Re: Introduction... Re: Introduction... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 00:50:39 -0700 From: "RICH" To: Subject: Introduction... Message-ID: <000701c01d57$4f34e240$8e841b3f@rjiredff> Hello! My name is Richard Schiff I am a long-time Hassi user and new to this list. I was a scientific photographer for many years at an astronomical observatory in Tucson AZ. I later worked at the University of Arizona library's Center for Creative Photography also in Tucson. I am now living in San Diego. I have a 500C/M a 50FLE - 80CF - 100CF - and a 150CF and two backs. I like shooting B&W and Velveeta to do texture shots and nudes. I love learning about these cameras and never cease to be amazed at what they can do. During my time at the observatory I often got the chance to work with Nasselblads that later flew to the moon where they still are today. I look forward to lurking about and learning as much as I can. If I can make any small contribution I will do my best. Thank you. Richard Schiff San Diego CA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:05:43 +0100 From: "Simon Lamb" To: Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: <000f01c01d59$6a6f5570$650a0a0a@slamb> I use a Manfrotto 055B with a Gitzo 1276M head. The tripod is strong and reasonably light and the head takes a 5kg loading and is made of magnesium so very light too. I use a 503CW with 180mm on it and it is very stable. Simon Lynda B wrote: > I've got a 501 CM and a 50mm, 150mm chrome lenses, and I want to take it > outside and shoot. > > It's getting pretty heavy with those lens... and if I use a prism finder, > it's getting up there in weight... > > I've got a hefty Bogen (3233) that I use with my large format camera, but > I'm wondering what do most of you use??? I have my view camera set up a > lot, and I don't want to take it down and reset it back up just to use the > hassy outside, so I'm thinking of getting a second tripod; something that I > could use just for the hasselblad... I already have a second head (a Giotto > MH-1001)... > > I'm thinking of something that real easy to set up and pop down. Also, I > don't want to spend more than $200... > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:06:07 EDT From: COHIBA7@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Introduction... Message-ID: <7a.a1ff81e.26f0c7af@aol.com> In a message dated 9/13/00 3:57:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, leicaman@email.msn.com writes: << I like shooting B&W and Velveeta to do texture shots and nudes. >> Hello Richard: Welcome to the list. It is an informative place to "visit." Hopefully your nudes are not too cheesy! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:57:25 -0400 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: Subject: RE: Introduction... Message-ID: <000b01c01d82$2b3c73f0$0100a8c0@paolopent> Let's not joke about his spread. Paolo Paolo Pignatelli -----Original Message----- From: COHIBA7@aol.com [mailto:COHIBA7@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:06 AM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Introduction... In a message dated 9/13/00 3:57:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, leicaman@email.msn.com writes: << I like shooting B&W and Velveeta to do texture shots and nudes. >> Hello Richard: Welcome to the list. It is an informative place to "visit." Hopefully your nudes are not too cheesy! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 07:59:36 -0500 From: Arlyn DeBruyckere To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: <39BF7A39.4ECEDAF5@hutch.k12.mn.us> I use a Bogen 32201 (a black 3021) with a joystick head. I love it - the legs are independently adjustable and it is sturdy enough to hold my Hassy so I don't have to bend over (I'm 6' 4") and get an sore back. The joystick works like a fast ball head. Lynda B wrote: > > I've got a 501 CM and a 50mm, 150mm chrome lenses, and I want to take it > outside and shoot. > > It's getting pretty heavy with those lens... and if I use a prism finder, > it's getting up there in weight... snip > > I'm thinking of something that real easy to set up and pop down. Also, I > don't want to spend more than $200... -- Arlyn DeBruyckere http://www.nelson-photography.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:09:37 EDT From: COHIBA7@aol.com To: paolop@snet.net, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Introduction... Message-ID: Good point Paolo... Please accept my apolocheese! R.L. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:19:59 -0400 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: Subject: RE: Introduction... Message-ID: <000c01c01d85$51a46cc0$0100a8c0@paolopent> Sure, whey not? Paolo Paolo Pignatelli -----Original Message----- From: COHIBA7@aol.com [mailto:COHIBA7@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:10 AM To: paolop@snet.net; hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Introduction... Good point Paolo... Please accept my apolocheese! R.L. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:40:59 -0400 From: Jodi Mahaney To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: <39BF83EA.51BEDB86@mahaneyphoto.com> Hello, Lynda! I'm primarily a wedding photographer, and I use my Hasselblad gear with a Gitzo 320. I would NOT recommend it to anyone else because of those locking rings -- sometimes when I need to loosen them it seems as if the rings are taking half the skin off my palms with them before they'll loosen. Very frustrating! I think my next tripod will be a Benbo -- it has a wonderful and very unique system for raising and lowering the legs. Good luck! Jodi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:41:45 EDT From: InfinityDT@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: <15.91e039b.26f0de19@aol.com> In a message dated 9/12/00 11:01:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lbotez@dukat.cs.wisc.edu writes: << I'm thinking of something that real easy to set up and pop down. Also, I don't want to spend more than $200... >> As cameras go the Hasselblad with the lenses up to the 250/5.6 aren't really all that heavy or demanding of a huge tripod, not in the way a 35mm camera with a long telephoto is. The weight is pretty well confined over the tripod's center of gravity. I have a number of tripods, including a Gitzo 320, 1228 carbon, Bogen 3336, 3220 and 3001. I personally don't care for Gitzo leg locks, not because they're unreliable but because sometimes they bind up too tight. I also don't care for the 3221 leglocks because they have to be adjusted periodically to keep them tight. The lightest and most portable and fastest to set up is the Bogen 3001 and it is plenty sturdy enough for a prism'd Hasselblad and 150 + 2x Mutar which is my longest. I cut the center column just below the yoke and re-ground the adjustable leg stop tabs so it goes down to about 1" from flat. It has screw-type locks which are very secure and very easy to work. The head I use is the Bogen Medium Ball head 3262 which is plenty strong enough and has an automatic 3/8-1/4" adaptor so you can use it in either size hole. The whole shebang new would (and I'm sure Henry will correct me if I'm wrong ) run just under $100 @ B&H. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:54:57 -0400 From: "Stuart Phillips" To: Subject: Re: Introduction... Message-ID: <004f01c01bf7$df115120$3674799e@umb.edu> > My name is Richard Schiff I like > shooting B&W and Velveeta Please tell us all how you shoot on American plastic cheese - Velveeta- Is this an alternative process. I tried this morning with Liquid Light but couldn't get it to stick!! Seriously though, welcome stuart phillips ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:57:00 -0400 From: "Stuart Phillips" To: , Subject: Re: Introduction... Message-ID: <006b01c01bf8$283671f0$3674799e@umb.edu> Reading along the tread I see that my comment was completely unoriginal. Stop it or the poor guy is going to sell his gear and go off to the leica group ----- Original Message ----- From: Paolo Pignatelli To: Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:19 AM Subject: RE: Introduction... > Sure, whey not? > > Paolo > > Paolo Pignatelli > > > -----Original Message----- > From: COHIBA7@aol.com [mailto:COHIBA7@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:10 AM > To: paolop@snet.net; hasselblad@kelvin.net > Subject: Re: Introduction... > > > Good point Paolo... > > Please accept my apolocheese! > > R.L. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute > Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list > is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or > affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: > http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:31:28 -0400 From: "LEO WOLK" To: Subject: Re: Introduction... Message-ID: <01c01d8f$4de5ab80$8544570c@fofyplfq> This group always did show alot of "culture". -----Original Message----- From: COHIBA7@aol.com To: paolop@snet.net ; hasselblad@kelvin.net Date: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:09 AM Subject: Re: Introduction... >Good point Paolo... > > Please accept my apolocheese! > >R.L. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:24:34 -0400 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: Subject: RE: Introduction... Message-ID: <000d01c01d8e$57779470$0100a8c0@paolopent> Sorry. I never intended to act Leica this. I am now curd. Paolo Paolo Pignatelli -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Phillips [mailto:stuart.phillips@umb.edu] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:57 AM To: paolop@snet.net; hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Introduction... Reading along the tread I see that my comment was completely unoriginal. Stop it or the poor guy is going to sell his gear and go off to the leica group ----- Original Message ----- From: Paolo Pignatelli To: Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:19 AM Subject: RE: Introduction... > Sure, whey not? > > Paolo > > Paolo Pignatelli > > > -----Original Message----- > From: COHIBA7@aol.com [mailto:COHIBA7@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:10 AM > To: paolop@snet.net; hasselblad@kelvin.net > Subject: Re: Introduction... > > > Good point Paolo... > > Please accept my apolocheese! > > R.L. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute > Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list > is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or > affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: > http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:19:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chris J. DiBona" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: I have teh 3021 as well with a Giotti Ball Head with the adustable tension thing. IT's great, the price of the tripod was certainly right, though the ball was a bit much. Chris -- Linux Community Evangelist, VA Linux Systems | http://www.valinux.com President, Silicon Valley Linux Users Group | http://www.svlug.org Grant Chair, Linux International. | http://www.li.org Co-editor, Open Sources | http://www.dibona.com On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Arlyn DeBruyckere wrote: > I use a Bogen 32201 (a black 3021) with a joystick head. I love it - > the legs are independently adjustable and it is sturdy enough to hold my > Hassy so I don't have to bend over (I'm 6' 4") and get an sore back. > The joystick works like a fast ball head. > > Lynda B wrote: > > > > I've got a 501 CM and a 50mm, 150mm chrome lenses, and I want to take it > > outside and shoot. > > > > It's getting pretty heavy with those lens... and if I use a prism finder, > > it's getting up there in weight... > > snip > > > > I'm thinking of something that real easy to set up and pop down. Also, I > > don't want to spend more than $200... > > -- > Arlyn DeBruyckere > http://www.nelson-photography.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:20:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chris J. DiBona" To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Cc: paolop@snet.net Subject: Re: Introduction... Message-ID: It doesn't have to be that whey, we're an easy going group. No apolocheese necessary here. Havarti good time! Chris -- Linux Community Evangelist, VA Linux Systems | http://www.valinux.com President, Silicon Valley Linux Users Group | http://www.svlug.org Grant Chair, Linux International. | http://www.li.org Co-editor, Open Sources | http://www.dibona.com On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 COHIBA7@aol.com wrote: > Good point Paolo... > > Please accept my apolocheese! > > R.L. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:22:06 -0700 From: bfranson@greennet.net (Bill Franson) To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000913122206.007f0100@mail.greennet.net> >A Hasselblad deserves a Gitzo Reporter at minimum. >I'd wait till the next paycheck. >Mark W. Rabiner I went this route for my Hasselblad but wouldn't recommend it in this instance for several reasons. The first is cost as Mark suggested. The second is camera shake at full extension. Once the two section center column is up the mirror slap will send a vibration down the column. Lift the mirror first and you are all right. If the column isn't extended you are fine, but it isn't a tall tripod. It's great for going light but you need to be aware of the limitations. If you want a sturdy Gitzo for the Hasselblad you have to go up a series. But under $200?, fahgetaboudit. Anybody have any experience with the new Bogens/Manfrottos? Bill Franson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:30:46 -0700 From: Jim Brick To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: <4.1.20000913091347.02bbb470@xsj02.sjs.agilent.com> >Lynda B wrote: >> >> I'm thinking of something that real easy to set up and pop down. Also, I >> don't want to spend more than $200... >> At 08:11 PM 9/12/00 -0700, Mark Rabiner wrote: >The best glass deserves the best camera to make sure it is secured to the >best tripod! >A Hasselblad deserves a Gitzo Reporter at minimum. >I'd wait till the next paycheck. >Mark W. Rabiner This is a tough call at under $200. I'd wait fro several paychecks. I personally use a Gitzo 1349 carbon fiber tripod with a Gitzo magnesium (light weight) head. This whole combo is not only massive enough to easily hold my 4x5 view camera, but light enough to carry all day without being sorry. And it holds my Hasselblad anywhere, anytime, in any position without compromise. The only sorry part is the initial cost! Buy it once and use it basically forever. It's about ten cents a day for 25 years. Cheaper if you keep it longer. I have a small reporter Gitzo that I bought in 1969. It still works perfectly today. Really cheap now. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:56:19 -0500 From: "WILLIAMS, DAVID R. (JSC-DB)" To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: RE: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: <41D2696EE385D0118DE90020AFFC1E5C063FD693@jsc-ems-mbs09.jsc.nasa.gov> Ditto for me JIMBO! -----Original Message----- From: Jim Brick [mailto:jim_brick@agilent.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:31 AM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy >Lynda B wrote: >> >> I'm thinking of something that real easy to set up and pop down. Also, I >> don't want to spend more than $200... >> At 08:11 PM 9/12/00 -0700, Mark Rabiner wrote: >The best glass deserves the best camera to make sure it is secured to the >best tripod! >A Hasselblad deserves a Gitzo Reporter at minimum. >I'd wait till the next paycheck. >Mark W. Rabiner This is a tough call at under $200. I'd wait fro several paychecks. I personally use a Gitzo 1349 carbon fiber tripod with a Gitzo magnesium (light weight) head. This whole combo is not only massive enough to easily hold my 4x5 view camera, but light enough to carry all day without being sorry. And it holds my Hasselblad anywhere, anytime, in any position without compromise. The only sorry part is the initial cost! Buy it once and use it basically forever. It's about ten cents a day for 25 years. Cheaper if you keep it longer. I have a small reporter Gitzo that I bought in 1969. It still works perfectly today. Really cheap now. Jim ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:00:16 GMT From: buchi@takeonetech.de (Michael Buchstaller) To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: <39c0b1e3.105017309@mail.cybernet-ag.de> > How are these "locking rings"? Do they come unlocked easily? I have a Gitzo Studex (don=B4t remamber the exact model number). The locking rings do lock really well; you dont=B4t have to apply much force to fasten them - so they do unlock easily. In the beginning i had the fear that i would have to use *real* force to tighten them, but i tried them in a professional photo store, and i was convinced over the "click-lock" manfrotto style. My mail reason for that was that i did not like the possibility of getting caught in those = handles. -Michael Buchstaller ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:12:11 -0400 From: "Stuart Phillips" To: Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: <002701c01c13$6cba29f0$3674799e@umb.edu> You kind of cripple yourself with that last $200 comment! I take legacy, pre-change of use photographs of buildings; especially with interiors I need a tripod. I use a medium-size Bogen but a recent project (an early 20th Century military complex on an island) convinced me that I need a carbon fiber tripod. Way above $200. And no, I can't afford it. But going by foot, onto a boat with overnight camping gear too - there is no other way. Think of the AA picture of him on top of his station wagon! good luck stuart phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynda B To: Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:01 PM Subject: best tripod for hassy > I've got a 501 CM and a 50mm, 150mm chrome lenses, and I want to take it > outside and shoot. > > It's getting pretty heavy with those lens... and if I use a prism finder, > it's getting up there in weight... > > I've got a hefty Bogen (3233) that I use with my large format camera, but > I'm wondering what do most of you use??? I have my view camera set up a > lot, and I don't want to take it down and reset it back up just to use the > hassy outside, so I'm thinking of getting a second tripod; something that I > could use just for the hasselblad... I already have a second head (a Giotto > MH-1001)... > > I'm thinking of something that real easy to set up and pop down. Also, I > don't want to spend more than $200... > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.ht ml ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:14:10 -0400 From: "Stuart Phillips" To: Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: <003b01c01c13$b7805090$3674799e@umb.edu> YES, the Gitzo locking rings work well. these are great tripods. (Actually I have a monopod) snp ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynda B To: Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:24 PM Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy > B&H has a Gitzo 1201 Reporter MK2 for $178, which is what I was thinking > about getting. I'm just wondering about the "locking rings" on this tripod. > I have the bogen flip type, and though they are a pain they really lock > tight. How are these "locking rings"? Do they come unlocked easily? > > Do you have one of these? > > I liked the feel of this tripod (they had one at our local camera store for > about a week, then someone bought it and I've never seen a Gitzo again)... > It's real easy to carry around. Is it good enough? The Gitzo's seem to jump > from this low-end one to $479. Yikes! > > I dunno, I guess I can lug my Bogen around if I have to pay that much. > > -Lynda > > > > The best glass deserves the best camera to make sure it is secured to the best > > tripod! > > A Hasselblad deserves a Gitzo Reporter at minimum. > > I'd wait till the next paycheck. > > Mark W. Rabiner > > :) > > > >> I've got a 501 CM and a 50mm, 150mm chrome lenses, and I want to take it > >> outside and shoot. > >> > >> It's getting pretty heavy with those lens... and if I use a prism finder, > >> it's getting up there in weight... > >> > >> I've got a hefty Bogen (3233) that I use with my large format camera, but > >> I'm wondering what do most of you use??? I have my view camera set up a > >> lot, and I don't want to take it down and reset it back up just to use the > >> hassy outside, so I'm thinking of getting a second tripod; something that I > >> could use just for the hasselblad... I already have a second head (a Giotto > >> MH-1001)... > >> > >> I'm thinking of something that real easy to set up and pop down. Also, I > >> don't want to spend more than $200... > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:16:56 -0400 From: "Stuart Phillips" To: Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: <006701c01c14$184bac30$3674799e@umb.edu> Can you give me a weight without the camera for comparison. Thanks stuart phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:41 AM Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy > In a message dated 9/12/00 11:01:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > lbotez@dukat.cs.wisc.edu writes: > > << I'm thinking of something that real easy to set up and pop down. Also, I > don't want to spend more than $200... >> > > As cameras go the Hasselblad with the lenses up to the 250/5.6 aren't really > all that heavy or demanding of a huge tripod, not in the way a 35mm camera > with a long telephoto is. The weight is pretty well confined over the > tripod's center of gravity. I have a number of tripods, including a Gitzo > 320, 1228 carbon, Bogen 3336, 3220 and 3001. I personally don't care for > Gitzo leg locks, not because they're unreliable but because sometimes they > bind up too tight. I also don't care for the 3221 leglocks because they have > to be adjusted periodically to keep them tight. The lightest and most > portable and fastest to set up is the Bogen 3001 and it is plenty sturdy > enough for a prism'd Hasselblad and 150 + 2x Mutar which is my longest. I > cut the center column just below the yoke and re-ground the adjustable leg > stop tabs so it goes down to about 1" from flat. It has screw-type locks > which are very secure and very easy to work. The head I use is the Bogen > Medium Ball head 3262 which is plenty strong enough and has an automatic > 3/8-1/4" adaptor so you can use it in either size hole. The whole shebang > new would (and I'm sure Henry will correct me if I'm wrong ) run just > under $100 @ B&H. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:19:37 EDT From: JBelen@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: hasselblad V1 #987 Message-ID: I currently own a 503CW and a few CF lenses. As a bifocal wearer, i find focusing accurately somewhat difficult. I am thinking of swtiching to the Contax 645 system. Are the Zeiss (for the Contax system) lenses of the same quality as they are for the Hassy? Thanks, Jack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:42:37 -0400 From: "Stuart Phillips" To: Subject: Re: hasselblad V1 #987 Message-ID: <00c101c01c17$acb2fa10$3674799e@umb.edu> I don't know the answer to this, but would guess that there is no discernable difference. However, the Contax system is now available to rent at many pro-shops and my local atleast would always let you rent and refund the rental on a purchase. I think that's the best way to go.You get to make sure all of the features will suit you. Best of luck. snp ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:19 PM Subject: Re: hasselblad V1 #987 > I currently own a 503CW and a few CF lenses. As a bifocal wearer, i find > focusing accurately somewhat difficult. > > I am thinking of swtiching to the Contax 645 system. Are the Zeiss (for the > Contax system) lenses of the same quality as they are for the Hassy? > Thanks, > Jack > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:54:31 EDT From: InfinityDT@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: hasselblad V1 #987 Message-ID: <21.d3c33e.26f11957@aol.com> In a message dated 9/13/00 1:24:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JBelen@aol.com writes: << I currently own a 503CW and a few CF lenses. As a bifocal wearer, i find focusing accurately somewhat difficult. I am thinking of swtiching to the Contax 645 system. Are the Zeiss (for the Contax system) lenses of the same quality as they are for the Hassy? Thanks, Jack >> I assume since you're contemplating the 645 that you shoot eye-level. If so, get a PM45 prism for the CW. Mine was about $650 from Cayman Camera, a lot cheaper than trading your whole system for the Contax. The PM45 (or PME45 or PME90) have infinitely adjustable diopters in the eyepieces, which are high-eyepoint for glasses-wearers. You just aim the camera at a uniformly bright subject like a wall, with the lens set so it's out of focus, look through the top (distance Rx) of your bifocals and turn the eyepiece until the crosshairs on the screen are sharp, then lock the eyepiece in place. Works great. The split-image/microprism screen is also a help especially with shorter lenses. Cost me about $165 from the same source. But if you just plain *want* a Contax 645, that's another story. Judging by the 35mm lenses, the Contax-Zeiss lenses are undoubtedly superb. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:13:10 EDT From: BobR38@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Introduction... Message-ID: <7f.992ab41.26f11db6@aol.com> Cheez, there is no need for even considering apologies. The mesages are in good taste....the joking around is secon-DAIRY to the valuable information to be gained! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:00:25 -0500 From: Lynda B To: Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: haha I already have one of those (3001) (for my 35mm)... It just seems so flimsy. I don't want to have the thing topple over on me. I just put the camera on it.. it sets there okay, but it seems so cheezy (it's the cheapest Bogan, I think; not that the price should matter as long as it works)... It says at B&H that it's for 35mm cameras. Also, the thing I don't like is there isn't much support in the center, especially if you move the center column up. And I never I don't quite understand what you mean about re-grinding the adjustable leg stops either... I really appreciate all the comments; please everyone tell me what tripod you use... > << I'm thinking of something that real easy to set up and pop down. Also, I > don't want to spend more than $200... >> > > As cameras go the Hasselblad with the lenses up to the 250/5.6 aren't really > all that heavy or demanding of a huge tripod, not in the way a 35mm camera > with a long telephoto is. The weight is pretty well confined over the > tripod's center of gravity. I have a number of tripods, including a Gitzo > 320, 1228 carbon, Bogen 3336, 3220 and 3001. I personally don't care for > Gitzo leg locks, not because they're unreliable but because sometimes they > bind up too tight. I also don't care for the 3221 leglocks because they have > to be adjusted periodically to keep them tight. The lightest and most > portable and fastest to set up is the Bogen 3001 and it is plenty sturdy > enough for a prism'd Hasselblad and 150 + 2x Mutar which is my longest. I > cut the center column just below the yoke and re-ground the adjustable leg > stop tabs so it goes down to about 1" from flat. It has screw-type locks > which are very secure and very easy to work. The head I use is the Bogen > Medium Ball head 3262 which is plenty strong enough and has an automatic > 3/8-1/4" adaptor so you can use it in either size hole. The whole shebang > new would (and I'm sure Henry will correct me if I'm wrong ) run just > under $100 @ B&H. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:06:53 -0400 From: "Paolo Pignatelli" To: Subject: RE: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: <000001c01dbe$29adc660$0100a8c0@paolopent> I use a Leitz Tilall, model 4602. It is a bit heavy, but works very well for the distances I usually travel, at most a 4 or 5 hour hike over steep hills. Paolo Paolo Pignatelli -----Original Message----- From: Lynda B [mailto:lbotez@dukat.upl.cs.wisc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 4:00 PM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy haha I already have one of those (3001) (for my 35mm)... It just seems so flimsy. I don't want to have the thing topple over on me. I just put the camera on it.. it sets there okay, but it seems so cheezy (it's the cheapest Bogan, I think; not that the price should matter as long as it works)... It says at B&H that it's for 35mm cameras. Also, the thing I don't like is there isn't much support in the center, especially if you move the center column up. And I never I don't quite understand what you mean about re-grinding the adjustable leg stops either... I really appreciate all the comments; please everyone tell me what tripod you use... > << I'm thinking of something that real easy to set up and pop down. Also, I > don't want to spend more than $200... >> > > As cameras go the Hasselblad with the lenses up to the 250/5.6 aren't really > all that heavy or demanding of a huge tripod, not in the way a 35mm camera > with a long telephoto is. The weight is pretty well confined over the > tripod's center of gravity. I have a number of tripods, including a Gitzo > 320, 1228 carbon, Bogen 3336, 3220 and 3001. I personally don't care for > Gitzo leg locks, not because they're unreliable but because sometimes they > bind up too tight. I also don't care for the 3221 leglocks because they have > to be adjusted periodically to keep them tight. The lightest and most > portable and fastest to set up is the Bogen 3001 and it is plenty sturdy > enough for a prism'd Hasselblad and 150 + 2x Mutar which is my longest. I > cut the center column just below the yoke and re-ground the adjustable leg > stop tabs so it goes down to about 1" from flat. It has screw-type locks > which are very secure and very easy to work. The head I use is the Bogen > Medium Ball head 3262 which is plenty strong enough and has an automatic > 3/8-1/4" adaptor so you can use it in either size hole. The whole shebang > new would (and I'm sure Henry will correct me if I'm wrong ) run just > under $100 @ B&H. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:11:02 -0400 From: "Cousineau , Bernard" To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: RE: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: <4FAFDCF60A23D21197A500A0C9CFE33604EE63E8@EMAIL> > I really appreciate all the comments; please everyone tell me > what tripod > you use... A Tiltall, of course. Well, actually, I use an old video tripod (which is neither light nor cheap), but I really should get an other Tiltall before they disappear of the face of the Earth again. Mind you, last week I was using a rented Sachtler carbon fiber tripod which was just as light as the Tiltall (with fluid head no less). If you don't mind going a few thousand dollars over budget, I fully recommend it. Bernard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:14:21 -0700 From: "Peter Klosky" To: , Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: Lynda, I, too, have a 3001 Bogen that isn't very good. Just this week, State = Farm insurance paid $354 for the 35mm body that was wrecked when it = toppled over a few weeks ago. Michael's comment that safety is an important consideration in a tripod is = good one. When you get a significant rig up on one, what with body, = motors, brackets, lenses, flash syncs, flashes, lamps, what have you, and = batteries for all the goodies, the load can be dangerous. I'm sure I'm = not the only one that has caught their index finger in the works and ended = up with a bloody, bruised finger and a wedding job to finish, with the = associated white dress. And those brides just love it when their = photographer plays with their dress; all part of the attention thing. My favorite tripod? An old Velbon that I bought at a garage sale for $5. = Unlike the Bogen, it has a scuplted nut for the tripod screw, instead of a = smooth round ring. The legs have folding keeper clamps, instead of the = unreliable Bogen screws. And the particular head it has is quicker to = operate. If I was shopping again, I'd skip Bogen. Peter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:31:15 EDT From: InfinityDT@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: <44.71a5b26.26f14c23@aol.com> In a message dated 9/13/00 4:01:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lbotez@dukat.cs.wisc.edu writes: << haha I already have one of those (3001) (for my 35mm)... It just seems so flimsy. I don't want to have the thing topple over on me. I just put the camera on it.. it sets there okay, but it seems so cheezy >> I have a Gitzo carbon-fiber, a Gitzo 320, a large Benbo and a Trekker, a Bogen 3033 and a 3020 and a little Gitzo 026 (and I used to own a Tiltall which I sold only because I like a ball head) in addition to the 3001, so it's not like I'm a cheapskate or a minimalist when it comes to tripods. My 3001 has never toppled over and 90% of my Hasselblad use is outdoors in rugged terrain. But it is the definitely not the tripod you should buy. You need a much larger, much heavier and much more expensive one. A serious tripod, one that won't make you go "haha". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:49:42 -0700 From: Paul Clark To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: RE: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: <4151A205129ED3119BEF009027D5EBA70B6027@BDDB2> I personally use a Bogen 3033 with 3410 low profile 3-way pan head. Most of my work is portraits on the beach, so I wanted something solid in the shifting sand. It weighs a ton, but makes me feel secure (besides, my assistant has to carry it, not me). I spent about $235 at B&H for this setup. -----Original Message----- From: Lynda B [mailto:lbotez@dukat.cs.wisc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:00 PM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy haha I already have one of those (3001) (for my 35mm)... It just seems so flimsy. I don't want to have the thing topple over on me. I just put the camera on it.. it sets there okay, but it seems so cheezy (it's the cheapest Bogan, I think; not that the price should matter as long as it works)... It says at B&H that it's for 35mm cameras. Also, the thing I don't like is there isn't much support in the center, especially if you move the center column up. And I never I don't quite understand what you mean about re-grinding the adjustable leg stops either... I really appreciate all the comments; please everyone tell me what tripod you use... > << I'm thinking of something that real easy to set up and pop down. Also, I > don't want to spend more than $200... >> > > As cameras go the Hasselblad with the lenses up to the 250/5.6 aren't really > all that heavy or demanding of a huge tripod, not in the way a 35mm camera > with a long telephoto is. The weight is pretty well confined over the > tripod's center of gravity. I have a number of tripods, including a Gitzo > 320, 1228 carbon, Bogen 3336, 3220 and 3001. I personally don't care for > Gitzo leg locks, not because they're unreliable but because sometimes they > bind up too tight. I also don't care for the 3221 leglocks because they have > to be adjusted periodically to keep them tight. The lightest and most > portable and fastest to set up is the Bogen 3001 and it is plenty sturdy > enough for a prism'd Hasselblad and 150 + 2x Mutar which is my longest. I > cut the center column just below the yoke and re-ground the adjustable leg > stop tabs so it goes down to about 1" from flat. It has screw-type locks > which are very secure and very easy to work. The head I use is the Bogen > Medium Ball head 3262 which is plenty strong enough and has an automatic > 3/8-1/4" adaptor so you can use it in either size hole. The whole shebang > new would (and I'm sure Henry will correct me if I'm wrong ) run just > under $100 @ B&H. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:30:30 -0500 From: "WILLIAMS, DAVID R. (JSC-DB)" To: "'hasselblad@kelvin.net'" Subject: RE: best tripod for hassy Message-ID: <41D2696EE385D0118DE90020AFFC1E5C063FD699@jsc-ems-mbs09.jsc.nasa.gov> I have a Gitzo Studex tripod with a FOBA SUPER BALL HEAD. I plan one keeping the head (I have two of the FOBA SBH) and buying one of the GITZO CARBON FIBER tripods. I've have liked and used the Gitzo line of products for the last 15 years. I suggest you go look at variouse models within the Gitzo line in person and then get a brouchure on the line to look at the entire line and all of there features before making a final purchase on a tripod. There not as quick to set up as some other brands but they are built for a life time a dependable service. Also GITZO has a Magnesuim center ball head that will give you good results and be more affordable than the FOBA or the MONOBALL brand heads. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: Lynda B [mailto:lbotez@dukat.cs.wisc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 3:00 PM To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: best tripod for hassy haha I already have one of those (3001) (for my 35mm)... It just seems so flimsy. I don't want to have the thing topple over on me. I just put the camera on it.. it sets there okay, but it seems so cheezy (it's the cheapest Bogan, I think; not that the price should matter as long as it works)... It says at B&H that it's for 35mm cameras. Also, the thing I don't like is there isn't much support in the center, especially if you move the center column up. And I never I don't quite understand what you mean about re-grinding the adjustable leg stops either... I really appreciate all the comments; please everyone tell me what tripod you use... > << I'm thinking of something that real easy to set up and pop down. Also, I > don't want to spend more than $200... >> > > As cameras go the Hasselblad with the lenses up to the 250/5.6 aren't really > all that heavy or demanding of a huge tripod, not in the way a 35mm camera > with a long telephoto is. The weight is pretty well confined over the > tripod's center of gravity. I have a number of tripods, including a Gitzo > 320, 1228 carbon, Bogen 3336, 3220 and 3001. I personally don't care for > Gitzo leg locks, not because they're unreliable but because sometimes they > bind up too tight. I also don't care for the 3221 leglocks because they have > to be adjusted periodically to keep them tight. The lightest and most > portable and fastest to set up is the Bogen 3001 and it is plenty sturdy > enough for a prism'd Hasselblad and 150 + 2x Mutar which is my longest. I > cut the center column just below the yoke and re-ground the adjustable leg > stop tabs so it goes down to about 1" from flat. It has screw-type locks > which are very secure and very easy to work. The head I use is the Bogen > Medium Ball head 3262 which is plenty strong enough and has an automatic > 3/8-1/4" adaptor so you can use it in either size hole. The whole shebang > new would (and I'm sure Henry will correct me if I'm wrong ) run just > under $100 @ B&H. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:31:53 -0400 From: "LEO WOLK" To: Subject: Re: Introduction... Message-ID: <01c01de3$2e7d01e0$2a45570c@fofyplfq> You're really MILKING it now! -----Original Message----- From: BobR38@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Date: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 2:13 PM Subject: Re: Introduction... >Cheez, there is no need for even considering apologies. The mesages are in >good taste....the joking around is secon-DAIRY to the valuable information to >be gained! >Bob >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > >To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad >Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm >Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:10:15 -0400 From: Marcober To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Introduction... Message-ID: <39C02577.F0E0FA18@gate.net> What kind of way is that to talk to a new member... "I hope your nudes are not too cheesy" ? I hope they ARE cheesy. What does cheesy mean, anyway? If his models have poor hygiene, they might smell a little like cheese, no? MB COHIBA7@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/13/00 3:57:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > leicaman@email.msn.com writes: > > << I like > shooting B&W and Velveeta to do texture shots and nudes. >> > > Hello Richard: > > Welcome to the list. It is an informative place to "visit." > Hopefully your nudes are not too cheesy! > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:41:15 EDT From: BobR38@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Introduction... Message-ID: <97.a9dd97c.26f186bb@aol.com> MB, I think it was not the models, but the Velveeta that has caused the topic to spread quickly. Holy COW, this doesn't seem to stop now. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:47:32 -0400 From: "LEO WOLK" To: , Subject: Re: Introduction... Message-ID: <01c01df6$219754e0$2a45570c@fofyplfq> ENOUGH with the CHEESE, WHIZ -----Original Message----- From: BobR38@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Date: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:41 PM Subject: Re: Introduction... >MB, >I think it was not the models, but the Velveeta that has caused the topic to >spread >quickly. Holy COW, this doesn't seem to stop now. >Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:08:47 EDT From: COHIBA7@aol.com To: bigleo@worldnet.att.net, hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Introduction... Message-ID: I was wondering, as it relates specifically to our Kraft, how many individaul slices will the Hasselblad Cut Film Adapter hold? R.L. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:12:14 EDT From: BobR38@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Introduction... Message-ID: Leo, I agree, we should Cut The CHEEZ jokes once and for ALL! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:52:00 -0400 From: "LEO WOLK" To: Subject: Re: Introduction... Message-ID: <01c01dff$22d934a0$2a45570c@fofyplfq> Well...We've all had a gouda time! -----Original Message----- From: BobR38@aol.com To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Date: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:12 PM Subject: Re: Introduction... >Leo, >I agree, we should Cut The CHEEZ jokes once and for ALL! >Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:23:43 -0700 From: Mark Rabiner To: hasselblad@kelvin.net Subject: Re: Introduction... Message-ID: <39C06EEE.47BCB8D0@rabiner.cncoffice.com> BobR38@aol.com wrote: > > MB, > I think it was not the models, but the Velveeta that has caused the topic to > spread > quickly. Holy COW, this doesn't seem to stop now. > Bob This topic has not melted well. Mark W. Rabiner :) peuw! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 02:27:01 -0400 From: "Stuart Phillips" To: , Subject: Re: Introduction... Message-ID: <004701c01c82$80ea7870$3674799e@umb.edu> Enough already; the next time i meet an ugly cow, i'm going to have to shoot her. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Rabiner To: Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:23 AM Subject: Re: Introduction... > BobR38@aol.com wrote: > > > > MB, > > I think it was not the models, but the Velveeta that has caused the topic to > > spread > > quickly. Holy COW, this doesn't seem to stop now. > > Bob > > This topic has not melted well. > Mark W. Rabiner > :) > peuw! > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. > > To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad > Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm > Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html ------------------------------ End of hasselblad V1 #988 ************************* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Hasselblad Users Group Listserv is a public service of Absolute Internet, Inc., which is not responsible for its content. This mailing list is in no way affiliated with Victor Hasselblad AB, it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. To change your subscription status, go to: http://mail.kelvin.net/guest/RemoteListSummary/Hasselblad Digest archives are stored at http://www.kelvin.net/hasselblad/hassy.htm Searchable archives can be found at http://www.listquest.com/arts/index.html